i get played back at WAY less when i dress well
 

i'm about six feet tall with long hair and a beard, and typically look like [censored] (last weekend i wore pajamas and flip flops to a tournament, and reaked of bourbon)

when i go on weekend gambling excursions (as opposed to just going for the day), i dress much better with khakis and a button down shirt and an expensive watch with nice shoes

in short, it is easy for me to run over the table when i dress nicely, and i have to play a much more relaxed tight game when i look like a shitbag.

do you think there is any truth to this, or am i just changing my own play based on how i already perceive them judging my play? (self fulfilling prophecy)

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i'm about six feet tall with long hair and a beard, and typically look like [censored] (last weekend i wore pajamas and flip flops to a tournament, and reaked of bourbon)



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Why would you want to be out in public looking like a homeless schizophrenic?

Re: i get played back at WAY less when i dress well
 

Image will allow you to get away with things that your cards won't.

I should try wearing my suit next time.

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i'm about six feet tall with long hair and a beard, and typically look like [censored] (last weekend i wore pajamas and flip flops to a tournament, and reaked of bourbon)



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Why would you want to be out in public looking like a homeless schizophrenic?

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what-evah, i do what i want!

Re: i get played back at WAY less when i dress well
 

I never put a lot of thought into it, but it's a good question. Do people tend to give less action to better-dressed players? I might bust out my sport coat.

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I usually wear my white sweatshirt and cap because most casinos get a little cold. Sometimes I wear nicer clothes. I haven't noticed any difference in action.

I have a subtle way of getting people to come after me (when they shouldn't) that transcends my apparel. This is true in and out of poker. That's my edge in life. That's how I roll [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Why wouldnt you want people playing back at you more? As long as you are conscious that its happening so you can take more pot control/bluff inducing lines with strong hands and build huge pots with monsters. Im thinking of NL of course if your playing limit you probably want that TAG image.

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i NEVER said that it was a desirable image, just something i think i have picked up on after my last couple sessions that seems to fit in with past experience.

i was wondering if people think that there is a genuine difference, or if i am just playing more aggressively when i look good

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Why wouldnt you want people playing back at you more?

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I prefer the steal-a-lot-of-little-pots approach, but that's just me. Keeps me awake.

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If your consciously making a "choice" to do one or the other your not playing optimally, take what your opponents give you.

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Wierd, so what your saying is that when you dress like a total degenerate gambler, people treat you like a total degenerate gambler?

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people who profile your look and play accordingly are making a mistake. As a young black guy i get people who assume i cant play for [censored] all the time, especially if i decide to yap it up at the table. in the end these guys realize their mistake when they glance down at their chipstack.

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Wierd, so what your saying is that when you dress like a total degenerate gambler, people treat you like a total degenerate gambler?

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Against an observant player I'd think it wouldn't matter at all.

Nobody below 30/60 seems to be the least bit observant so maybe.

I usually don't go anywhere without a collar and I seem to get played with a lot. I'll try to go out without shaving and try it again. Most of the time I wear my nicer clothes because I don't have anywhere else to wear them and I'm cheap (I used to have a different job and still have a wardrobe left over).

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people who profile your look and play accordingly are making a mistake. As a young black guy i get people who assume i cant play for [censored] all the time, especially if i decide to yap it up at the table. in the end these guys realize their mistake when they glance down at their chipstack.

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Dunno.

I saw an older Russian Armenian guy call a pot sized all in bet with a gutterball and two overcards on the board. He was dressed real nice.

You think he can play?

If you can play well and your opponents are donks it doesn't matter in the long run. Chatterbox doesn't matter either.

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people who profile your look and play accordingly are making a mistake. As a young black guy i get people who assume i cant play for [censored] all the time, especially if i decide to yap it up at the table. in the end these guys realize their mistake when they glance down at their chipstack.

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I would agree with this if you said "People who profile you and play accordingly, AND REFUSE TO ADJUST TO ACTUAL OBSERVATIONS, are making a mistake." I think profiliing is fine for someone you've never seen...its more likely to be right just treating them as random. You still have to pay attention and adapt.

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not assuming that young asian guys are action junkies is -EV

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not assuming that young asian guys are action junkies is -EV

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Exactly.

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I never put a lot of thought into it, but it's a good question. Do people tend to give less action to better-dressed players? I might bust out my sport coat.

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less skilled players..yes.

you dont have to be a great poker player to be observant.

Re: i get played back at WAY less when i dress well
 

When I first went to the casino near my place and started playing the big game there, I completely ran over the table. I later realized that all of the middle-aged regulars there probably just figured that a 22 year old kid in tshirt who rode his bike to the casino (in the rain, damn it) wouldn't make bluffs and plays with the amount of money we were playing for.

So basically, my table image (that of not a baller but just some kid who's getting a really lucky run of cards) lets me destroy them. I think if I went in wearing a suit, or even just a nice shirt with a collar and pants and whatnot, I'd lose a fair bit of the respect I get now.

Remains to be seen how long it takes for them to realize that i'm a player, better than they are at poker, and willing to make big moves.