Super System Hand involving Doyle Brunson...
 

In Super System 2 this was a hand that was reviewed and I'd like to know if any of you could lay this hand down in this spot?

I don't have the book in front of me, but read it last night and will resume the story from the flop. I don't have the proper position memorized. The game is 80/160 limit hold'em. The flop is A-4-2. Doyle is facing a bet with Trip Aces. He raised , got two callers. The turn is a 2. Doyle is facing a bet, he raises , get's another raise and a call. He dumps the hand. (WOW, Aces full in the muck there?) The river was a 4. The fish was holding poket 4's and the "pellican" was holding pocket 2's. Quad 2's lose to quad 4's on the river, all the while Doyle dumps Aces full of 2's when he's now beat. What are your thoughts on this hand?

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lol donkaments

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It was probably set up for Doyle to get the quad 4s, and the cut was mishandled.

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Let's see. I use to play the Bellagio 80-160 game on the regular (it's since migrated fulltime to 100-200) and I think I remember this hand from about two years ago. Doyle was in seat five, in the middle of the table. I was in seat eight and could see the action pretty well. Rounding out the crowd was tanya, terri, mickey, kevin, ali, sam s, and stu unger. Doyle open-raised in the cutoff, ali and sam called from the blinds. Flop comes down as you said, A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. He bets, both called. Now, I've played a lot of limit hold em with Pappy (Bellagio regulars call him Pappy -- long story, and boy is it a good one). I could tell his spider-sense was tingling. When the 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] slides off the on turn and Ali BUMBLIBUMBLIs $160 into the pot with a sly look, and Sam just smooth calls with grin, Pappy had to raise to find out what was going on... Ali called after some Hollywooding, and Sam lept into what can only be described as a raising frenzy. Pappy knew he was drawing dead to one out and mucked his hand face up in disgust and whacked the dealer in the head with one of his crutches before speeding off in his Lark. When the 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] lurched off on the river, Ali bet, Sam just called knowing he lost to bigger quads. I remember thinking, "this guy's good".

Good times.

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There's so much wrong with this entire thread.

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"It was probably set up for Doyle to get the quad 4s, and the cut was mishandled."

vnh

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lol abuseofthisforumwithconstantnonsensepostsfromtards aments

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Let's see. I use to play the Bellagio 80-160 game on the regular (it's since migrated fulltime to 100-200) and I think I remember this hand from about two years ago.

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The hand discussed in SS2 took place in a Texas road game in the 60's or 70's when 80/160 was a huge game.

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Let's see. I use to play the Bellagio 80-160 game on the regular (it's since migrated fulltime to 100-200) and I think I remember this hand from about two years ago.

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The hand discussed in SS2 took place in a Texas road game in the 60's or 70's when 80/160 was a huge game.

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definitely a setup then, no way this could happen twice by chance.

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IT HAPPENED TWICE? WTF

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The fish was holding poket 4's and the "pellican" was holding pocket 2's. Quad 2's lose to quad 4's on the river, all the while Doyle dumps Aces full of 2's when he's now beat. What are your thoughts on this hand?

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...that it sounds made up.

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i've heard a story of doyle and chip being highly scrutinized by the bellagio eye in the sky during the big game, and being asked to leave at one point, although it wasn't permanent.

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If Bellagio had a problem with Reese and Brunson as mentioned, what would be the reason? At a blackjack table you can be a card counter, at tables like craps and roulette, people have stolen chips from someone who is not paying attention. In a cash game with people like reese and brunson, what was the problem where they had to be asked to leave???

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I doubt it. If anything's going on, one would think the Bellagio would know about it.

Andy Beal insisted on playing the "corporation" head up.

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Let's see. I use to play the Bellagio 80-160 game on the regular (it's since migrated fulltime to 100-200) and I think I remember this hand from about two years ago.

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The hand discussed in SS2 took place in a Texas road game in the 60's or 70's when 80/160 was a huge game.

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definitely a setup then, no way this could happen twice by chance.

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great success

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In the interest of at least getting the story right:

The hand the OP is discussing is mentioned in the SS2 introduction written by Crandall Addington. It took place in the early 60's at a cardroom in Texas. As Addington said in his intro, the game was typically NL but on certain nights they played LHE, and 80/160 LHE was a big game for those times.

For the hand in question, the game was 3 handed, and (as the story was told), DB had AA. It was capped PF. The flop was A42r, and it was capped on the flop. When the board paired on the turn, Dolye led (IIRC) and then folded when it was two more bets back to him. The board paired again on the river, and quad 2's lost to quad 4's.

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This hand must've been from a while ago. You can fold that hand in today's games, because the range of hands your opponents could have are so much wider. Also, the aggressiveness with which they'll play non-nut hands has gone way up.

In a typical 80/160 game today, that would be an absolutely horrific fold.

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There are so many holes in this story, not the least of which is that none of these people (those still alive), would've been caught dead playing for the chump change limit of 80/160 two years ago.

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I have SS1 and SS2. I think I remember reading about this hand.


1 - No way did he lay down Aces full in a 3 handed game.


2 - if he did, isn't that a "bad" laydown as it's short handed and you're playing against known LAG players?
Surely a fold here is -EV.

So either way...its some BS ...or just crappy advice like most of the SS lol

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what doyle is letting u know is that there is just more to this game other than the cards u hold. there is somryhing called intuition.

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what doyle is letting u know is that there is just more to this game other than the cards u hold. there is somryhing called intuition.

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the real message is that poker is rigged.