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[Phill] 11-15-2006 01:25 PM

Casino Royale Review *No Spoilers*
 
Please note, i have not included anything you couldn't possibly learn from either the trailer or some of the many articles written about the film. If you wish to learn absolutely nothing about this film, stop reading now.

Those still reading, id like to give you my review of one of the most anticipated films of this year. For those wondering, i saw the film last night as a print test just hours after its premiere (they do this with all films to make sure the quality is up to standard for public screenings).

Background
Casino Royale (2006), not to be mistaken with Casino Royale (1967) is the latest in the line of Bond films. As many of you may or may not know it stars Daniel Craig, best known for his lead in Layer Cake and supporting role in Munich.

Much controversy surrounded his appointment as the suave MI6 agent. Most of this surrounded the fact he did not look like bond as described in the books, nor was he a particularly famous actor in film circles.

The film itself is a prequel to all the other Bond films, and starts with him earning his double 0 status. It is also well known that it includes a 'high stakes poker game' as one of the plot points in the film - for those wondering, in the original novels it is Baccarat which Bond played, and the inclusion of a NL holdem game is clears signs of changing times for bond, and the mainstream acceptance of poker.

The Cast

Ok, lets get this out of the way now. I am a fan of Daniel Craig, and i think he is an exceptional Bond. Whereas other Bonds have been camp and cheesy, this is dark, fresh and exactly how Ian Fleming wanted Bond to be. All the people who i watched this film with either liked or didnt dislike him as Bond. You can please everyone, but it appears the pick of Daniel Craig will displease only the die hard internet crowd who will refuse to change their stance.

Eva Green, as Vesper Lynd, is a damn fine Bond girl. She and her character is everything a Bond girl should be - beautiful, witty, intelligent and more than capable of helping Bond where needed. But at the same time there are several scenes which develop the Vesper Lynd character into a rounded person, rather than a hot girl in a bikini.

Dame Judi Dench, as M. What can be said about M which hasnt already? Well, a lot actually. The M character for the first time is shown outside of the 'office' and as cold and heartless as M is required to be to do her job, she is shown to actually have a life out side of the service. Nothing more is required to say.

Mads Mikkelson, as the main bad guy Le Chiffre is a Danish actor who i hadnt heard of before this film, but put in a solid performance as a Bond baddie. This time the baddie wont be holding Bond over a shark pit, walking away and assuming he will die. Le Chiffre is shown as a man who enjoys control, a genius and chess prodigy who has a passion for poker. He is also shown to be a man who in many cases is a slave to circumstance. This is not Dr Evil - credibility in the foe is back once again.

Other characters of note include a return of Felix Leiter (who is now black) who delivers a rather nice one liner and turns out to be integral to the story, whilst saying and doing virtually nothing. Also, note the lack of Q and Q section. The Aston DBS is here, but no one is there to show Bond around the gadgets, of which there is basically none. The Omega watch doesnt have a super magnet or a laser, the car doesnt turn invisible, go underwater or fire rockets. It simply drives.

Oh, and my personal favourite character makes a brief cameo - the 1964 Aston Martin DB5. The Bond car of Bond cars.

General

There is something Bond lacked in the last few films, and that is credibility. He had a gadget for everything, he saved the day without crumpling his dinner jacket and was an exceptional shot, sword/knife fighter and delivered one liners which were outdated.

The one liners have improved. There are so many, and quoting one would be pointless as its all in the delivery. Casino Royale may be billed as the darkest bond ever, but that doesnt mean you wont get a laugh and a smile along the way.

Bond is still (well, becomes) a double 0, so he is well trained as a marksman and in hand to hand combat. But its just so well done. In the fights, you know he will win, but there are moments where he almost doesnt. In the past it always seemed so easy, but in this film he has to actually fight for his life, and in several points he only just manages to win. Realism is a big bonus for me. As was said in the trailer, you need to have two kills to get your double 0 status - both are briefly shown in the film. But what this basically shows is he is a killer who is improving in technique and ability. By the end of the film he is well practiced.

The film also has a really inventive form of torture. Not advanced, but pretty much everyone watching could empathise with the pain shown on the screen. Ill let you wait till you see it on screen and not give anything away.

One negative point id make, is i disliked the Bond theme song. Others liked it. It is an acquired taste. If only they got Shirly in for another Bond outing.

The final major point to make is a Bond is not a Bond without at least one action scene which is highly memorable. This film has possibly the greatest set piece scenes of any Bond, if not any film. It is generally shown in the trailer, but ill give a brief outline of what is in the scene in white below anyway.

<font color="white">Basically, the whole scene is based around Bond chasing down a target who is a free-runner (ie, he jumps up, down and over things, and is rather good at climbing). At its highest point (again, in the trailer) there are atop a massive crane in a construction site. There is one panning shot where it goes over the top of the actors and crane, and i was genuinely feeling quite acrophobic as i watched on.</font>

The Poker

This was fairly bad. In fact im sure if you were to put a couple of the hands onto the high stakes NL HE forum here they would be considered either very situational or just bad. Again, without spoilers its hard to give anything away, but its pretty obvious they didnt spend much time considering this major scene in the film.

There was also a smaller poker scene right near the start, and im absoutely sure the hand was butchered beyond all recognition. This has no bearing on the plot, but basicly the main bad guy reads one of the other players for having a straight draw on the turn, tells him "i have two pair, and you have a 17.5% chance of making your straight" and pushes all in (possibly before his little speech. If he has the two pair, he is basicly limiting any chance of winning more out of his opponant, and if he is bluffing he is telling him "i dont want to win any more chips from you". This basicly shows whoever wrote the poker bits, or consulted on them, either didnt write it for people who knew how to play, or didnt spend enough time thinking through the logic of the hands.

The final hand is obviously between Bond and the main bad guy. It doenst take a genius to work out that is how it is always going to end up (as they are 'obiously' the best players in the game). Im pretty sure the hand is played wrong here.

Btw, Felix is in the main poker game, as a way of introducing the character and the interests of uncle sam. From best i can tell he was a pretty aweful player, certainly not good enough to be in that game. Obviously it wouldnt help the plot of the film, but there is no way the US couldnt get someone a bit more competant to represent their interests.

Anyway, that is my opinion as a poker player. Many other people who watched it with me and didnt play poker simply thought the scene dragged on, and in general i agree. Before I saw the film, i knew the poker scene would either be bad, or simply out of place. It was in my opinion.

Verdict

This has put to bed the shambles that was Die Another Day - not the worst film ever, but it was a generic action film pretending to be a Bond film. I died a little inside when i watched it.

Casino Royale on the other hand made me want to join up to MI6 (for those interested, they are currently having a recruitment drive to coincide with the films release). I realised im over weight and not charming. This is my favorite Bond for a long time and it has revitalised the genre in the same way Batman Begins revitalised the Batman character and brought credibility back to the films.

As i ahve said, i disliked the poker in the movie. But not so much that it made me dislike anything else in the film. The scene could have been better, but this is Casino Royale, not Rounders. And its generally well known how bad Rounders was for its poker accuracy.

Will Daniel Craig be the favourite Bond ever? Time will tell. He is signed to the usual 3 film contract and the second film, Bond 22, is already in pre production. Bond 22 is sort of introduced at the end of Casino Royale. Its hard to explain without giving away plot points, but it basically shows where the starting point is for Bond 22.

Bond is back, and Bond is dark.

Out of 100 i rate this film to be 94. This is my favourite film of 2006 by a fair margin and im looking forward till the next Bond film.

Frogpond 11-15-2006 01:27 PM

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SackUp 11-15-2006 01:30 PM

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Nice review Phill! I'm really looking forward to seeing this.

How did you get advance viewing?

[Phill] 11-15-2006 01:36 PM

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A few of my friends work in our local cinema.

They had a test screening to make sure the print is ok.

In theory, they shouldnt let anyone but the projectionist watch it, let alone a non employee like me. But its generally accepted thats what happens. Big budget films can stop staff getting free tickets so this kind of balances it out.

I also get free tickets to other films [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Im seeing Borat for the first time on Fri when i can get in free - i didnt want to go alone and everyone i know has been or wont go till its free.

I saw the last Harry Potter before its release as well, plus a few other smaller films.

Btw, if you dont want to read it all, at the bottom ive scored it out of 100 and left a quick verdict section. I just happen to be fairly thorough in my reiewing.

NT! 11-15-2006 01:41 PM

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excellent review, phill.

for the record guys, the rule against circumventing the profanity filter includes words or offensive phrases contained in images. i'm going to edit the sticky just in case but the profanity thing is site-wide, not just OOT.

Frogpond 11-15-2006 01:44 PM

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My bad.

stabn 11-15-2006 01:46 PM

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Phil,

Like most i was kind of meh on Craig selection at first. I think that is because until recently most of the American audience didn't really know who he was. However, when I saw layer cake my opinion immediately changed. I think Craig will make an excellent bond and definitely has the chops to pull the role off.

Thanks for the review. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing this on Friday.

miajag 11-15-2006 01:48 PM

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Def. seeing this over the weekend. Between the trailer and the reviews I've read it looks/sounds amazing.

splashpot 11-15-2006 01:49 PM

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Yea, I saw some clips of the poker scenes and they're terribly done. I don't understand why they don't just consult someone who plays regularly and get it semi-right. The rest of the movie looks kickass though. 95% on rotten tomatoes.

Banditgberg 11-15-2006 01:52 PM

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i am excited to see this, nice write-up!

dinopoker 11-15-2006 01:59 PM

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Will it become the best Bond ever? I've heard others say that it might.

Regardkess, I hope that they continue the trend of making it dark and shadowy like it should have been all along. I said for years that they needed to get someone like John Woo or David Fincher to direct one of these movies. If it's as good as you say, let's hope they keep it going.

Can't wait to see it.

Dominic 11-15-2006 02:09 PM

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nice review, thanks for the heads up. Daniel Craig rocks.

Suigin406 11-15-2006 02:11 PM

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thx for the review phil...i was a little worried about this movie with the new actor, but u've alleviated my worries a bit...thx and i look even more forward to seeing it now...

[Phill] 11-15-2006 02:17 PM

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Will it become the best Bond ever? I've heard others say that it might.

Regardkess, I hope that they continue the trend of making it dark and shadowy like it should have been all along. I said for years that they needed to get someone like John Woo or David Fincher to direct one of these movies. If it's as good as you say, let's hope they keep it going.

Can't wait to see it.

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Dark is the new black. Batman Begins went dark, spiderman 3 looks to be pretty dark and Casino Royale is dark.

It appears hollywood is ready to let us see a tortured soul on screen when it comes to the major franchise films.

As for best Bond ever, hmm. Im a Goldeneye fan, ie im more into the modern Bonds of my era. But i appreciate the older Bonds. Like i say, time will tell how loved Craig and Casino Royale will be, but its a step in the right direction if nothing else.

Vespar asks him (and im paraphrasing here) at one point (also in trailer, so im consistant [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] ) "how can you so calmly kill people", to which he responds "I wouldnt be very good at my job if i couldnt". This is really early on, after his first two kills. He racks up a fair few more by the end.

samjjones 11-15-2006 02:24 PM

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I'm a huge Bond fan, have read all of Fleming's novels, seen the movies, etc. But I have not seen a "Bond" movie in the theater since "License To Kill". I'll be seeing this.

MrWookie 11-15-2006 02:25 PM

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samjjones 11-15-2006 02:26 PM

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Dudes - Fleming's Bond in the novels was a stone cold killer. I thought Craig was an excellent choice for the role (based on "Road To Perdition" and "Layer Cake"), and I'm glad to see that they moved the character in that direction.

RichC. 11-15-2006 02:36 PM

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great review, and i was already looking forward to this movie before your write up.

amplify 11-15-2006 03:11 PM

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LOL

I have never watched any Bond movie all the way through because from what I have seen they are all cheesy as hell. I'm actually looking forward to seeing this one opening weekend.

Terrabon98 11-15-2006 03:27 PM

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great review

KOTLP 11-15-2006 04:00 PM

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i am excited to see this, nice write-up!

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Also, as a boob man, I find Eva Green extremely hot.

swede123 11-15-2006 04:06 PM

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I just wish she'd chill out with the damn eye makeup. She always looks like she's got socked in the eyes, which totally does not do it for me. Didn't mean to derail this, as I am also pumped about Casino Royale.

Swede

The Dude 11-15-2006 04:07 PM

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Cool. I've had my doubts about Craig as Bond, but that's largely because the only thing I'd remembered him in was Road To Perdition. I've warmed up to him in that role some, I think.

I like the 007 films, and I'm looking forward to seeing this.

samjjones 11-15-2006 04:20 PM

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Let's classy up this thread with some pics, bro!

swede123 11-15-2006 04:22 PM

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Here's one of the nicer (and SFW) pictures I could find of Ms. Green.

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samjjones 11-15-2006 04:23 PM

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Lovely.

KOTLP 11-15-2006 04:27 PM

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pkour 11-15-2006 04:39 PM

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Yea, I saw some clips of the poker scenes and they're terribly done. I don't understand why they don't just consult someone who plays regularly and get it semi-right.

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they did

http://movies.aol.com/casino-royale-...n-bond-villain

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A3569060

Blarg 11-15-2006 04:43 PM

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Very nice review, thanks! I look forward to this one a LOT. We've needed a darker Bond for about 30 years now. It looks like this film may finally rescue Bond and Bond flicks from being complete anachronisms.

AntonHeat 11-15-2006 04:49 PM

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looks good, will probably see this opening weekend

Blarg 11-15-2006 04:54 PM

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Dudes - Fleming's Bond in the novels was a stone cold killer. I thought Craig was an excellent choice for the role (based on "Road To Perdition" and "Layer Cake"), and I'm glad to see that they moved the character in that direction.


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Yes, he was. The stone cold killer comes across very well in Dr. No, when Bond sets up a guy to break into his hotel room, then after knocking the gun out of his hand basically sits and chats with him in order to lure him into making a hopeless grab for it when Bond knows it's empty. When the guy clicks on the empty chambers, Bond leisurely reaches over to a table, legs crossed, grabs his own gun, and brings it to bear on the terrified would-be killer. Bond says something on the order of "That's a Smith and Wesson K-frame. Your six are up," lets the hopelessness and terror sink in for a second and lets the guy agonize how he'd been set up by Bond all along, and then plugs a couple silenced rounds into him.

Bond really dragged it out unnecessarily just to toy contemptuously with the guy. Because, well, that's just the kind of guy he was. Great, great scene! The old Connery Bond was not always a very nice guy at all. When he said he was going to break a girl's arm -- kind of a shocking thing to consider in the movies in those days especially -- you got the feeling the really meant it. There's a spark of absolute determination in Connery's eyes a lot, and I wouldn't want to get in his way.

Scotch78 11-17-2006 05:16 PM

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I'd like to second everything Phill said about this movie. On the negative side I would add that the construction site action scene reminded me of the horror movie cliché where a blonde runs upstairs instead of outside, and the defibrilator scene stretched my disbelief a tad too much as well, but those were both minor points and overall I found the movie more realistic than most action movies, let alone other Bond films. On the positive, I will come right out and say that Daniel Craig gives the best Bond perfomance I have seen so far (I've watched maybe half of the series).

Scott

2Fast 11-17-2006 05:24 PM

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wow this is a pretty strong statement - from what I can tell though it seems like Craig is more old-school Bond a la Connery which is a very good thing I think.

Dominic 11-17-2006 07:37 PM

just saw it- WOW
 
Fantastic movie. I'm not sure if it's really as good as I think it is, or just that I went in with lowered expectations as I do with any movie that's just supposed to be "entertainment."

Either way, this is the darkest, most real Bond ever. Daniel Craig embues the character with such a steely-eyed masculinity, mixed with an ambiguous and well-hidden remorse for his actions - and why he's able to do the things he does - that makes his Bond the most well-rounded and human Bond yet.

The supporting cast is equally compelling, especially Eva Greene as a woman who is James Bonds' equal, and not merely a plaything between the covers.

And Judi Densch does more with less screen time than any actor alive. She's amazing.

The poker scenes, while ludicrous, were still fun to watch.

But what was so enjoyable about this film was how surprising it was, both in plot turns and in character building. I love how the writer's threw in classic Bond references like his martini, his car and others but with a modern, realistic twist.

And my god, how brutal and dark was this film at times? Bond goes through a torture scene that will have every man crossing his legs and wincing. Horrible.

Even though I saw the ending double-cross coming, it was still refreshingly powerful to see the origins of James Bond's emotionless resolve after being both betrayed and losing someone he loves.

And there's something so perfect about the scene - I won't ruin it for you - where Craig gets to utter those famous three words for the first time: "Bond. James Bond."

Terrific movie. Not only one of the best films of the year, but THE best Bond film ever. And yes, I'm serious.

surfinillini 11-17-2006 07:49 PM

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this movie is gonna flop big

cwsiggy 11-17-2006 08:28 PM

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lol - you really have it in for this one to flop Surf - I can't wait but will be going in with low expectations.

IggyWH 11-17-2006 09:37 PM

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I can't seem to see why you think that at this point. Right now after 120 reviews, it's getting a 96 on RT.

You got to think almost everyone going into this movie is "expecting" to hate it. No one was really pleased when they named who the new Bond would be. Many predicted this would be the series demise.

Now, these same people with negative expectations are coming out the theater and writing nothing but great things about the movie.

Also, in general, Bond movies do well in the box office. I think it's oddly one of those films that men love but women also like to see them.

No way does this movie flop. It might be slow this weekend, but from all the positive press of the movie, it'll be huge next weekend.

DeezNuts 11-17-2006 09:42 PM

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The current box that the studio wants is $150m. To get that, we would have to hit around $55m this weekend. I think it hits more around $40m. Anyone that says under $30m(or flop) considering it has no real competition opening with it(Happy Feet is completely diff demographic) must be surely joking.

DN

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ed8383 11-17-2006 10:07 PM

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Im a fan of Roger Moore as bond even if everyone seems to think he was horrible (ok he did seem like a metrosexual in the Bond movies and not the manly/rugged Sean Connery)

cwsiggy 11-17-2006 10:12 PM

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Play on words Surf?? "Flop big" like in poker?? I forgot how clever you were on the LATB threads.


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