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Fiksdal 11-09-2006 03:10 PM

Rules for Poker Tracker
 
Does anyone have a good set of rules I can add to auto rate the poker tracker players in MTT's?

Sam T. 11-09-2006 03:20 PM

Re: Rules for Poker Tracker
 
I'm not sure this is even a good idea. Unlike ring games, tournament players (should) adjust their play considerably over the course of a couple of hours. So Tighty McNuts early is going to be lagging it up late. Between the first and the final table of a 180 my VPIP has gone from 15% to 30%, and my PFR has skyrocketed. Any rating you get would be highly contingent on when you run into a particular player.

elstunar 11-09-2006 03:23 PM

Re: Rules for Poker Tracker
 
like sam said it's pretty useless in tourneys for the most part, but if u want some for ring games, search the ssnl faq i believe i found some there once

Ontario_Tory 11-09-2006 03:24 PM

Re: Rules for Poker Tracker
 
in fact, I don't believe PT even has the ability to auto-rate tourney players...

OddJustice 11-09-2006 04:00 PM

Re: Rules for Poker Tracker
 
No set of rules here also .... but I really take PAHud numbers into consideration. Default layout and numbers.

Obv, I take into account that players are suposed to change gears.

nomadtla 11-09-2006 07:24 PM

Re: Rules for Poker Tracker
 
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in fact, I don't believe PT even has the ability to auto-rate tourney players...

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This is the case for the reasons stated by others. It would be too much work to set up autorates that play to every variant (blinds, # of players, distance to bubble) and because of how many players there are you have so little data that an autorate would be close to useless.

MyPC8MyMoney 11-10-2006 01:19 PM

Re: Rules for Poker Tracker
 
one thought to address the changing tourney depth logic...

What I do is set PAce to score % based on the last 25 hands. While still not a jillion % accurate, it seems to image players better than rating on all hands played.

I may push this 25hands a bit deeper...still pondering that one.

OddJustice 11-10-2006 03:35 PM

Re: Rules for Poker Tracker
 
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one thought to address the changing tourney depth logic...

What I do is set PAce to score % based on the last 25 hands

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I think less than 3 orbits is too little.

Sometimes I change to last 30, to last 20, specially after bubble, or in the bubble .... just to compare to his previous play. But after that I reset to all hands

BigAlK 11-10-2006 04:10 PM

Re: Rules for Poker Tracker
 
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one thought to address the changing tourney depth logic...

What I do is set PAce to score % based on the last 25 hands

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I think less than 3 orbits is too little.

Sometimes I change to last 30, to last 20, specially after bubble, or in the bubble .... just to compare to his previous play. But after that I reset to all hands

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I have overlapping filters set based on number of players at the table (2-3, 3-4, etc).

allenciox 11-10-2006 05:09 PM

Re: Rules for Poker Tracker
 
I do something similar except I apply a filter to the levels of the blinds. For example, on Pokerstars I play a lot of the rebuy tourneys. Obviously the way someone plays changes a lot between rebuy and later. So at the beginning of the tourney, I choose the Preferences window from the tourney screen, and select to show only blind levels up to 100 (for 50-100). This way any players I have played before will include any hands I played with them in the initial hour. After the first break, I change the Preferences to show only blind levels from 150-400 to correspond to the second hour. I find that people often play different here than later --- usually a little looser, but not nearly as loose as during rebuys. Then after the second break, I select blind levels over 400. Sometimes I distinguish prebubble vs. postbubble as well.

BigAlK 11-10-2006 05:22 PM

Re: Rules for Poker Tracker
 
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I do something similar except I apply a filter to the levels of the blinds.

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When you change these filters does PAHud have to rebuild it's cache (or do you have the cache turned off to avoid this)?

It seems to me that the filters based on blind levels and filtering based on last x hands are attempting to do the same thing. However x hands doesn't make use of times you've seen this person previously. I try to pay attention to how a player is playing currently. PT/PAH help me measure his "normal" play and sometimes reinforce my impression of how he's playing (yes, he really is playing 75% of his hands and raising half of them pre-flop). I think using the filter on blinds might be a refinement to my current approach I should consider.


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