ask me about: hustling golf
 

I plan to write about this soon. i know alot but have never really thought alot about it. a discussion would help me verbalize some of my experiences.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

Where did you find guys to play against? Before you got to the course, on the range, waiting to tee off?

Also, what happens if a guy didnt pay?

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

This is a very crappy start to what could be an interesting thread. OP, go back and post some of your qualifications for starting a thread like this. Did you win $20 off your dad playing golf or something?

Perhaps a story to get discussion started would be in order.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

- How good are you?
- How many of your opponents were known from the poker room?
- Do you have any experience with poker fish being sharks on the golf course, and vice-versa?

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

limon,

I have to assume you're playing at scratch, right? If you were sandbagging to win I want to punch you in the balls.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

Are you posing as dictionary salesmen?

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]
This is a very crappy start to what could be an interesting thread. OP, go back and post some of your qualifications for starting a thread like this. Did you win $20 off your dad playing golf or something?

Perhaps a story to get discussion started would be in order.

[/ QUOTE ]

are you serious? its [censored] limon. he knows about whatever the [censored] he's going to talking about.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

Have you read "the green"? If so, what did you think?

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]
- Do you have any experience with poker fish being sharks on the golf course, and vice-versa?

[/ QUOTE ]
Also OP, did you read the Rick Reilly chapter in "Who's Your Caddy" that talked about the exploits of Dewey Tomko et al? Do you do any of that crazy sht they do like put Vaseline on the cart to wipe on your clubs?

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]
are you serious?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes. Crappy way to start a thread.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

if your looking to find a mark cold (no previous relationship)the best place is the casino. followed by home games. followed by muni putting greens.

the reasons casinos are so good is because most will take the bravado AND STAKES of whichever casino game they were playing onto the course. you shame them into it. so you say, (if you were playing 1000 buy in poker the night before) "$1000 nassau?, is it worth it? thats only 3 buy ins" or " how bout $100 a hole skins forced press, if I get lucky maybe i can win buy in for the poker game"

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]
Are you posing as dictionary salesmen?

[/ QUOTE ]

no, happy go lucky lagtard.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

no never read anything on this topic. will check it out though.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]
limon,

I have to assume you're playing at scratch, right? If you were sandbagging to win I want to punch you in the balls.

[/ QUOTE ]

sandbagging is a one time score, but not out of the question. sometimes you have to fight fire w/ fire. most of the best marks are poor hustlers. just like many of the best poker opponents are wanna be pros.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

limon,

- How much $ do you usually play for?
- What is the most you have won on one round? Most you've lost? On one hole?
- Ever had someone refuse to pay up?

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

- im good in the right ways
- 90% of my opponent are from gambling most poker some blackjack
-many floormen are fish at poker sharks at golf.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]

Crappy way to start a thread.

[/ QUOTE ]

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

Limon,
What's your handicap?(assuming you are trying)

-future mark

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

you must be one hell of a hustler, because I am totally getting the impression you are clueless about any of this. totally lulling the thread into a false sense of superiority, eh?

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]
- im good in the right ways


[/ QUOTE ]

Wow dude. You're right. A discussion sure has helped you verbalize your knowledge on the subject. Thanks for sharing.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
- Do you have any experience with poker fish being sharks on the golf course, and vice-versa?

[/ QUOTE ]
Also OP, did you read the Rick Reilly chapter in "Who's Your Caddy" that talked about the exploits of Dewey Tomko et al? Do you do any of that crazy sht they do like put Vaseline on the cart to wipe on your clubs?

[/ QUOTE ]

i have, but dont recommend it unless you state upfront its ok for everyone. i like it when an opponent wants to becuase i can usually get more out of the bargain by making them give strokes or take their strokes on the holes i want.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]
This is a very crappy start to what could be an interesting thread. OP, go back and post some of your qualifications for starting a thread like this. Did you win $20 off your dad playing golf or something?

Perhaps a story to get discussion started would be in order.

[/ QUOTE ]

learn your history boy. ive payed my dues on this site. my qualifications are beyond reproach. next .

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

Whats your handicap?
whatws the most you ever made
have you ever heard of/seen/played Terrance Leon Jr.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This is a very crappy start to what could be an interesting thread. OP, go back and post some of your qualifications for starting a thread like this. Did you win $20 off your dad playing golf or something?

Perhaps a story to get discussion started would be in order.

[/ QUOTE ]

learn your history boy. ive payed my dues on this site. my qualifications are beyond reproach. next .

[/ QUOTE ]

Your past changes nothing, I know you've paid your dues. This is a crappy way to start a thread, period.

I know, long-time poster, HSNL poster, etc. Doesn't make the OP any better. I'm not questioning your qualifications, I'm questioning the fact that you started a thread like this without including them.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

-$100 a hole (before presses) is generally the minimum ill get up for.

-most won in a round $5400, it was $800/hole skins by the 14th , most ive lost on 1 hole $3800

-everyone always pays but i let a guy carry a 13k debt for over a year once.

the thing you have to realize about golf is even though the bets seem huge there is alot of "cancelling out". sometimes the biggest matches ive played end up w/ no money changing hands.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

how do you determine ahead of time that you will have a profitable hustle on the golf course?

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

In any case, it's a good topic:

Craziest golf-related prop bet you've participated in?

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
- im good in the right ways


[/ QUOTE ]

Wow dude. You're right. A discussion sure has helped you verbalize your knowledge on the subject. Thanks for sharing.

[/ QUOTE ]

despite your tone i will elaborate. most of the match is played before a club is ever picked up. if you can negotiate a good deal you win before you play, regardless of the actual outcome. its like getting a guy to go all in on the flop w/ AA v. your set, regardless of the outcome you win. examples of negotiating a good deal would be:

getting your opponent to take his strokes on the 1st holes in a skins game (w/ presses)by pretending to give him more strokes than you wanted to.

as far as being good at golf. i have a huslers game, i.e i chip and put extremely well. what this does is make me look lucky. i can bomb a 300 drive but i wouldnt. that is equated w/ GOOD. getting up and down at precise moments or never 3 putting will fly under the radar.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]
how do you determine ahead of time that you will have a profitable hustle on the golf course?

[/ QUOTE ]

sometimes its hard. like when you are playing someone cold on a one time hit and want to maximize your earn. but there are certain "norms" in golf. and you go off those and your instincts once play starts. also you can tell when your in w/ scared money and then you're sure you have controll. example: there is no way a guy betting 500 a hand at bj who wants to play 200 a hole at golf is hustling you or confident in his game.

if you are being invited to a game it is easier because:

a: you dont need to skin the sheep
b: the host comments about the game will give you an idea what you're up against

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This is a very crappy start to what could be an interesting thread. OP, go back and post some of your qualifications for starting a thread like this. Did you win $20 off your dad playing golf or something?

Perhaps a story to get discussion started would be in order.

[/ QUOTE ]

learn your history boy. ive payed my dues on this site. my qualifications are beyond reproach. next .

[/ QUOTE ]

Your past changes nothing, I know you've paid your dues. This is a crappy way to start a thread, period.

I know, long-time poster, HSNL poster, etc. Doesn't make the OP any better. I'm not questioning your qualifications, I'm questioning the fact that you started a thread like this without including them.

[/ QUOTE ]

People who have been paying attention and aren't dumb know this thread is going to be good precisely because of the OP.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

Are there courses or certain types of courses particularly good for action now? Some of the old ones are talked about, but I have not heard it about newer ones.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

Limon, have you read Fast Company? That seems to be the standard book for this and other gambling/hustling. MaxPower recommended it to me and it was a good, quick read.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]
Are there courses or certain types of courses particularly good for action now? Some of the old ones are talked about, but I have not heard it about newer ones.

[/ QUOTE ]

i really dont think about finding marks at courses, its too forced. many guys who will lose 10k on craps consider a $20 nassau "big stakes" becuase thats what theyve always played for. you have to get them AT THE CASINO. so that the context of the betting is in the casino context and not the golf course context.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]
Whats your handicap?
whatws the most you ever made
have you ever heard of/seen/played Terrance Leon Jr.

[/ QUOTE ]

my handicap hovers around 4 but ive been known to "get lucky" when the money is deep. ill be happy to play a scratch golfer head up if the betting is right or the money is big enough to make him uncomfortable.

heard of terrance. lots of x-caddy hustlers work the los angeles country clubs or give lessons w/o credentials. these are the guys who, if they lose, might not pay. thier hustle continues after the money is due.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

Has anyone ever wanted to fight you/been really angry after a match because they deduced thatyou "hustled" them?


Have you ever been hustled?

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]


as far as being good at golf. i have a huslers game, i.e i chip and put extremely well. what this does is make me look lucky. i can bomb a 300 drive but i wouldnt. that is equated w/ GOOD. getting up and down at precise moments or never 3 putting will fly under the radar.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow, this makes so much sense it's scary.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

the only times ive ever had an angry "customer" is when its a team match and my teammate fux things up. example: i got invited to a match and we had to play teams. we had the match well in hand and were totally in controll when my partner got nitty on some rule. this caused the match to die, no more betting, no more presses, no beer after the round no future invite. if i have a guy under controll ill let him cheat all day.

ive been hustled sorta. by some putting green sharks from time to time. i let my pride get the best of me. i know what they're up to but for small money ill take a shot just to see where i stand.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


as far as being good at golf. i have a huslers game, i.e i chip and put extremely well. what this does is make me look lucky. i can bomb a 300 drive but i wouldnt. that is equated w/ GOOD. getting up and down at precise moments or never 3 putting will fly under the radar.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow, this makes so much sense it's scary.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree. Great tip.

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

Im currently pretty damn bad at golf, I plan on spending this winter learning how to play well, Id rather play the game to learn how to hustle, rather than just to play (i have a few books, hence why Ive heard of terrence). Is there anything I should be doing different during the learning process?

Re: ask me about: hustling golf
 

yeah thats why I neevr bomb my drives 300 yards..dont wanna scare off the action [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]