A note on the new sticky Hypocrisy
 

Ok, so there's a no tolerance policy on racist and anti-semetic comments, whether in jest or not, no matter the context.

Apparently, though, misogyny is fine.

Look I'm not for banning any of it. This the internet for eff's sake. But to say the first two are verboten, and the last (which makes up like 80 percent of the posts here) is ok is just downright hypocritical.

My vote would be to allow it all where its clearly lighthearted, and come down hard on people who are directing it at other posters or are way over the top on the obnoxiousnous meter.

But if we are going to come down on that kinda crap no matter what the context, how can you, with a straight face, not cut out the misogynistic crap? Of course, the forum, would die for lack of content, but hey, no sacrifice is to big in the name of political correctness eh?

--Zetack

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you are going to get flamed like crazy. and i doubt your post will do any good, but i agree with you pretty much 100% fwiw.

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shtt nigga i aint wanna get banned

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you are going to get flamed like crazy. and i doubt your post will do any good, but i agree with you pretty much 100% fwiw.

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quoted cause I feel the same way

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Don't be such a girl.

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The problem is that people are starting to push the envelope of what is light-hearted and what is not and it isn't always easy to tell the difference.

Hence a ban on all of it for now.

WTF? I'm not the mod. My HO (Lawl, humble opinion, not being misogynistic or anything) anyway, FWIW, which is nuttin.

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gildwulf is from canada

hes not familiar with the womens lib movement

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OMG A MOD SUCKS, WHO WOULD HAVE EVER GUESSED. ffs...

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gildwulf is from canada

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Don't be such a girl.

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Don't be so hard on him, it's probably just his period.

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gildwulf is from canada

hes not familiar with the women

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they just use bears there right?

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they just use bears there right?

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They're all French.

French = TEH GHEY!

(I hope we can still make fun of the French here, cause it's anti-merican not to)

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This made me laugh out loud.

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I feel like the 3 women who post on this site don't mind.

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can we still make fun of queers?

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can we still make fun of queers?

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[censored], I was about to google misognyinc or whatever the [censored] they're talking about to make sure I could still reply with "that's gay." Given the context of your post, I assume we're in the clear for now.

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i didn't know vaginas could type

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can we still make fun of queers?

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[censored], I was about to google misognyinc or whatever the [censored] they're talking about to make sure I could still reply with "that's gay." Given the context of your post, I assume we're in the clear for now.

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But please make it clear that it is a White, Anglo Saxon Protestant person who is riding teh Hershey Highway

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I do think GW is being a bit too sensitive here.

I think specific racist attacks at other posters should = banz0r. However, there is room for some seemling "racist" remarks expecially when they make fun of the people who actually take these comments seriously.

I mean come on GW, you saw Borat. Seemingly anti-semetic comments actually do the best job in making fun of these ridiculous prejudices.


Ps. "The Jews! They have changed form!!"

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For everyone ragging on Gildwulf, this no racism policy is a 2+2 policy. It's likely the admins had a little talk with GW and told him to do it. As the self-appointed 2+2 racism expert, I'm surprised this wasn't obvious before. You're not going to get away with making racist comments.

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i think the problem is dudes that people that are actually racist can just spew vitriol under the guise of being "ironic" (a la greenfield)

which isnt really cool

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Guys, you are so very very dumb.

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a+ contribution

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i think the problem is dudes that people that are actually racist can just spew vitriol under the guise of being "ironic" (a la greenfield)

which isnt really cool

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I think my point is that a zero tolerance policy for anything resembling what could be a construed as a racist remark is silly and accomplishes next to nothing. I think that evaluating the context is important here.

For example, Banning Greefield for blatently racist insults = A++ move.

Where as banning people for suggesting the NIGGAPLZFOLD2 screenname would not be.

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i think the problem is dudes that people that are actually racist can just spew vitriol under the guise of being "ironic" (a la greenfield)

which isnt really cool

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I think my point is that a zero tolerance policy for anything resembling what could be a construed as a racist remark is silly and accomplishes next to nothing. I think that evaluating the context is important here.

For example, Banning Greefield for blatently racist insults = A++ move.

Where as banning people for suggesting the NIGGAPLZFOLD2 screenname would not be.

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It's simply easier to just ban it outright then to have to make this judgment over and over regardless of how clear it is. Though, I agree with you.

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Sweet, so I can still be misogynistic and homophobic? Thanks for making the streets of BBV safe once again.

For realz, any blanket policy like this is going to be bad. If someone is being ridiculously racist/anti-Semitic and annoying, ban him. Case by case basis FTW. This policy will just be enforced selectively anyway.

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Gender anxiety is one of the great wellsprings of bad poker play and therefore must be preserved in BBV.

/mc

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For everyone ragging on Gildwulf, this no racism policy is a 2+2 policy. It's likely the admins had a little talk with GW and told him to do it. As the self-appointed 2+2 racism expert, I'm surprised this wasn't obvious before. You're not going to get away with making racist comments.

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2+2 policy or not, that doesn't make it any less hypocritical.

I read an interesting thought the other day concerning that guy who murdered the amish school kids a couple of months ago. He separated the girls from the boys and just shot girls.

Now if he'd seperated afro-americans, or jews, or hispanics or whatever (of course this would have to be some non-amish school) from the whitey's and just shot the minorities it would've been a huge factor in the news coverage.

But essentially nobody commented on the fact that only girls were targeted in this murder spree. Misogyny and violence against women doesn't even make it onto our radar screens anymore its so common.

Look this isn't to get on a soapbox. Heck, I like to beat my wife just as much as the next guy. And as I said above, I think, within certain bounds, all the idiotic comments should be allowed.

But I'm certainly anti-hypocrisy. Racism is not a small problem in our country, but I think its much less pre-valent than various forms of misogyny, if only because there are so many more opportunities to engage in misogynistic behavior.

I think any survey of the contents of these boards comparing the frequency of racist comments versus comments derogatory to women, would find the latter far far outnumber the racist comments.

Its good to see we have our priorities straight when it comes to our banning policies, though.

--Zetack

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this policy is nothing new. however, its hilarious that they point out the hypocrisy by themselves and still stand by the policy.

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Heck, I like to beat my wife just as much as the next guy.

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wtf

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It sucks to pick out one form of "prejudice" (I laugh at that term) as more offensive than another. If you're going to put the smack down about anti-semitism, don't you have to do the same for any type of "niggaplz" or "ORRY?" comments. It's all the same right?

Really, from watching posts it's pretty easy to tell who's being out-and-out racist, and who's making a joke (even those in poor taste). If there isn't going to be any active moderation where judgment is important, why not just put these offensive terms into the profanity filter?

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waiting for the beer can to fall on you

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It sucks to pick out one form of "prejudice" (I laugh at that term) as more offensive than another. If you're going to put the smack down about anti-semitism, don't you have to do the same for any type of "niggaplz" or "ORRY?" comments. It's all the same right?

Really, from watching posts it's pretty easy to tell who's being out-and-out racist, and who's making a joke (even those in poor taste). If there isn't going to be any active moderation where judgment is important, why not just put these offensive terms into the profanity filter?

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So we can make fun of gays and women, and probably most religions as well, but races/ethnicities are off limits? Except white people because it's ok to make fun of them.

The manatees are very unhappy...

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wtf ever. this is retarded.