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party36master 11-06-2006 11:17 PM

AA against huge field $20/$40
 
Not sure I'm playing well in these spots. Here's an example from yesterday.
Foxwoods $20/$40:
I have AA in Big Blind.
7 limpers to me in BB, I raise. All call.
8 players, 16 small bets.
Flop 96x rainbow
I bet, one caller, tight Asian lady raises, one additional caller, I 3 bet, tight Asian lady caps, both other players call.
4 players- 16 large bets
Turn 9, second heart.
Check, check, check, Asian lady bets, one fold:
I am getting 17:1.
I should fold, right? No way I have more than 2 outs?

Any other way to play this?

HOWMANY 11-06-2006 11:25 PM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
She can have a set of 6s/Xs giving you 4 outs. I'd call. If the turn was an X/6 I'd fold.

Hielko 11-06-2006 11:25 PM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
Easy call. You have 4 outs to beat 66 and the other possible set. Sometimes you will have the best hand.

party36master 11-06-2006 11:38 PM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
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Easy call. You have 4 outs to beat 66 and the other possible set. Sometimes you will have the best hand.

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ok, dumb oversight on the lower set outs.
I called.
River was J, 3rd heart.
Rank the below 3 actions:
Check/call
Check/fold
Bet/fold

HOWMANY 11-06-2006 11:50 PM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
The pot is HU on the river right? I think the play is to check/fold, but I can't fold in huge pots, so I would donk out. Of course it's physically impossible for us to have a flush here, but live players at 20/40 don't realize this, so she can't possibly raise with a worse hand. I don't trust live players to bet TT-QQ (maybe even KK/AA) here, so I fear check/call lets them play better than bet/fold.

iggymcfly 11-07-2006 08:50 AM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
Folding's ridiculous on a pot this size. She could always have TT or something. The flop and turn are fine, and c/c's the only play on the river. Sometimes you'll get lucky and get a check from a nine.

Hobbs. 11-07-2006 11:44 AM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
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Folding's ridiculous on a pot this size. She could always have TT or something. The flop and turn are fine, and c/c's the only play on the river. Sometimes you'll get lucky and get a check from a nine.

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tight asian ladies at foxwoods don't cap flops with TT

jba 11-07-2006 11:51 AM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
you are definitely beat, check/fold. btw this was probably men nguyen's wife.

jetfish 11-07-2006 12:26 PM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
Check/fold.

64sooted 11-07-2006 01:26 PM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
I have played at foxwoods enough to know u are beat here almost 100% of time if river is bet. You have 4 outs going to river....any 9 or A . check/fold

Bill King 11-07-2006 04:21 PM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
sorry guys but i call for one bet on the river here.. you only gotta be right one time in 18 and ive seen some shady maneuvers go down at FW 20/40.

and no, men nguyen's wife isnt the only tight asian lady who plays there either..

Hass 11-07-2006 06:37 PM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
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Folding's ridiculous on a pot this size. She could always have TT or something. The flop and turn are fine, and c/c's the only play on the river. Sometimes you'll get lucky and get a check from a nine.

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tight asian ladies at foxwoods don't cap flops with TT

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I'd like to know how you found an Asian that was tight.

Hobbs. 11-07-2006 06:55 PM

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Folding's ridiculous on a pot this size. She could always have TT or something. The flop and turn are fine, and c/c's the only play on the river. Sometimes you'll get lucky and get a check from a nine.

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tight asian ladies at foxwoods don't cap flops with TT

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I'd like to know how you found an Asian that was tight.

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Hass 11-07-2006 06:59 PM

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Folding's ridiculous on a pot this size. She could always have TT or something. The flop and turn are fine, and c/c's the only play on the river. Sometimes you'll get lucky and get a check from a nine.

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tight asian ladies at foxwoods don't cap flops with TT

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I'd like to know how you found an Asian that was tight.

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Your not implying that asian LADIES are the tight ones are you? If so I would like to politely dissagree.

Hobbs. 11-07-2006 07:04 PM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
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Your not implying that asian LADIES are the tight ones are you? If so I would like to politely dissagree.

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In general no, but they do exist, and I've seen a fair amount at foxwoods.

The DaveR 11-07-2006 07:16 PM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
Calling now will usually get you to showdown.

sternroolz 11-07-2006 07:20 PM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
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Calling now will usually get you to showdown.

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Someone explain how you cannot call the river in a live game getting 19:1(ie they bet or bluff with a worse hand ~5% of the time).

The DaveR 11-07-2006 07:26 PM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
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Calling now will usually get you to showdown.

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Someone explain how you cannot call the river in a live game getting 19:1(ie they bet or bluff with a worse hand ~5% of the time).

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Because your typical East Coast player will check the river with the third nut.

DMP 11-07-2006 08:23 PM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
Anyone consider she might have AK? I've seen it played this way a ton on times at Commerce, especially from "tight asian ladies". Some of them NEVER believe you could have anything. So I DEFINITELY call.

Hobbs. 11-07-2006 08:24 PM

Re: AA against huge field $20/$40
 
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Anyone consider she might have AK? I've seen it played this way a ton on times at Commerce, especially from "tight asian ladies". Some of them NEVER believe you could have anything. So I DEFINITELY call.

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well this hand wasn't played at commerce. Until you play with some of these people at foxwoods it is sometimes hard to understand how passive the game plays.


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