Stats post - 50,000 hands at Party 5/10
 

Definitely looking for some insight. I'm running at 1.2BB/100 after 50k hands, and that is with 2 200+ BB downswings (see the graph-is that normal???).

Comments are greatly appreciated!

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Re: Stats post - 50,000 hands at Party 5/10
 

Total number of 300+BB downswings I see = 0

Re: Stats post - 50,000 hands at Party 5/10
 

Bob-
Am I missing something between hands #25-30 and #34-37?

Maybe I'm defining downswing incorrectly?

Re: Stats post - 50,000 hands at Party 5/10
 

from #25 to #30 you went from 540BB to 330BB = 210BB downswing

In the 2nd one you went from about 615BB to 350BB = 265BB downswing


They are both significant downswings. But neither is over 300.

Re: Stats post - 50,000 hands at Party 5/10
 

I can calculate pot odds on the fly but I can't subtract 540 from 310!

Thanks...

Re: Stats post - 50,000 hands at Party 5/10
 

VPIP 16 = rock? I don't know, I don't play limit. It just seems low.

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yeah. i just looked at the graph.

16/8 is pretty tight.

He defends his BB vs. a steal an adequate amount but is getting killed overall in the BB imo...so perhaps calling the steal-attempt but then letting go on the flop too much when perhaps it is his for the taking.


Party 5/10 full is not exactly a LAG fest much of the time.


Also I noticed that VP/PFR stats are virtually identical through the first 5 positions.

PFR goes up for the last 2-3 positions...but VP is virtually the same throughout.
Obviously you should be playing more hands from LP than you are from EP but he doesn't appear to be doing that.


It's not a huge sample of course...but 1.2BB/100 is still a 'win'-rate (as opposed to a 'loss'-rate) so nothing to be embarassed about.

Re: Stats post - 50,000 hands at Party 5/10
 

I only play 6-max, but for full ring that is pretty standard I think.

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I only play 6-max, but for full ring that is pretty standard I think.

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It is a tad tight. Averaging 7.5 players at full ring I am about 21/15.

Re: Stats post - 50,000 hands at Party 5/10
 

is this info from poker tracker? i just download it today. were's the best place to learn to understand this info?

styleXX

Re: Stats post - 50,000 hands at Party 5/10
 

All of this is from Poker Tracker. Check the forums at pokertracker.com to get started.

Re: Stats post - 50,000 hands at Party 5/10
 

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He defends his BB vs. a steal an adequate amount but is getting killed overall in the BB imo...so perhaps calling the steal-attempt but then letting go on the flop too much when perhaps it is his for the taking.

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Thanks for pointing this out. I have the same problem, I think. I know that I've been feeling uncomfortable in the blinds since moving up to 5/10. I think that a slightly bad run at the beginning of December has made me too passive in these spots. I just looked at my stats and I'm losing slightly more than the OP out of the blinds. Maybe it's time to try out the 1/2 6max to get myself more comfortable in these situations.

Re: Stats post - 50,000 hands at Party 5/10
 

Biggest difference I see between your 5/10 stats and mine is position VPIP. On the button and in the cutoff, I'm close to twenty because I like to steal a lot. In the first two positions, it's just over ten.

And my avg VPIP is about 16.5... roughly same as yours.

I'm not sure what you're keeping UTG that I'm tossing... but I like to throw away AJo on down. Obviously my own judgement call, but take a look at your profitability with all the hands you're playing in the first two positions, and I think you could save some money by raising your hand strength standards in those spots.

Conversely, you may want to consider playing and stealing with a few more in the final two positions.

Re: Stats post - 50,000 hands at Party 5/10
 

Loosen up a tiny bit preflop, raise a lot more. 8% is far too low.

I'm playing a pretty consistent 18-19 vpip, 11-12 pfr.

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Loosen up a tiny bit preflop, raise a lot more. 8% is far too low.

I'm playing a pretty consistent 18-19 vpip, 11-12 pfr.

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So what hands would you be adding to get stats up? Or would you increase stealing?

Re: Stats post - 50,000 hands at Party 5/10
 

You VPIP is pretty constant. Loosen up more as you position improves.

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This is more a general question... I noticed that you only fold the river 10% of the time, and that you only fold on the flop 2% of the time after a pre-flop raise. Is that fairly standard? Do most of the winning players decide on the turn how beat/ahead they are?

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I'm playing a pretty consistent 18-19 vpip, 11-12 pfr.

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This is about where I am, as well.

-McGee

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Also I noticed that VP/PFR stats are virtually identical through the first 5 positions.


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It would seem to me that GretasGun is playing a Phil Hellmuth-type recommendation of top few hands only, from any position, in an unraised pot, to the end.

If this is the case, GG should bottle and sell the full system, as it certainly seems to work.

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This is more a general question... I noticed that you only fold the river 10% of the time, and that you only fold on the flop 2% of the time after a pre-flop raise. Is that fairly standard? Do most of the winning players decide on the turn how beat/ahead they are?

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he's playing so tight his hand is going to be best or worth a peel on the flop almost always.

Re: Stats post - 50,000 hands at Party 5/10
 

maybe play a few more hands in Mid/late pos. and loosen up in the BB a little i think. nice stats though