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Official 2006-2007 College Hockey Thread
There's a good chance this goes by ignored and vanishes into obscurity. However, I figured it was worth a shot.
Who here follows college hockey? Anyone? Let's get some discussion going. |
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I'm going to make a better effort to follow this year. I've always been a fan of college hockey, but the last couple years, I haven't really been able to follow. Who's going to be good this year?
How's UM this year? Since I moved to Denver, I haven't really been able to follow much. I just can't get myself to care about DU, so I end up only going to a few games each year - usually MTU, Minnesota, and maybe UMD or Wisconsin. |
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I went to BU and never bothered. I probably missed out. Hockey's a fun sport to watch live.
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YES this is awesome! College hockey is my favorite sport- the games are fast, the best players are truely dominant and fun to watch, and the atmosphere at UofM(innesota) is loud and happy.
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Damaniac - Love that you started this. I hope it catches on.
http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_p.../in-skille.jpg This feels like it was just a couple of weeks ago, and unfortunately I was on the wrong rooting end of it. Was in a bar on the UES with about 150 other fans and it was so intense for 3 OT's, and then unfortunately you could hear a pin drop and all the air go out of the place when it ended. It's been a great run the last 5-6 years for the Big Red, although given the rash of talent that we lost this summer -- McKee, O'Byrne, Moulson, Pokulok, Cam Abbott, Chris Abbott, Gleed -- it may be a bit of a rebuilding year. I think all of the Lynah Faithful would be ecstatic with just an NCAA appearance. That said, it should be an exciting few years ahead with some great freshman and sophomore talent. Looks like Schaefer might be forced to open up play a bit with a lot of offensive talent now on board, but I'm sure he will still be poudning the defensive, wear-em-down style into the new guys. Living in NYC now, I try (always successfully) to get to the games @ Yale/Princeton/Harvard every year. Flew out to Minnesota on a whim for the NCAA regionals a couple years ago (for yet ANOTHER heartbreaking OT loss). And this year I'll probably go up for a weekend at (renovated) Lynah for the first time since graduating, so I'm stoked for that. I'd love some good college hockey discussion around here. While I bleed Big Red, I often don't know enough about the other happenings across the country, and I feel this board would be a lot less trollish than USCHO in trying to get a feel for other teams and fans. So that's my deal... LET'S GO RED!!!!! |
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Michigan is looking a lot like last year- tons of talent, but very sloppy. Last year there was an excuse: the team was young and there were late August defections. None this year. Most everyone is back. The team is very talented, but commits bad penalties, makes poor passes and poor clearing attempts. Sauer in goal is hardly a rock either, although I think he's still not that high on the list of problems.
It is particularly disturbing for me since they have a front-heavy home schedule. Something like 12/14 home games by Thanksgiving, and I think a total of 6 after Christmas. If they don't get it together in a hurry, they are going to be scrambling to catch up on the road. They College Hockey Showcase is west of the lakes this year, so they have to travel to Minnesota and Wisconsin. Joy. |
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And let's never forget which fanbase taught the folks @ Yost how to cheer and really build a college hockey atmosphere [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Always a fun read:
[ QUOTE ] '91 Series set tone for U-M fans A successful program can more or less point to a date when things started to come together. For the Michigan hockey team, that turnaround came during a 1991 NCAA tournament series against Cornell. The Wolverines were finally beginning to put together a team that could compete with the best teams in the nation, but its first tournament appearance under coach Red Berenson brought forth an additional ingredient. Hosting the best 2-of-3 series at Yost Ice Arena created a general exitement around the hockey program for the first time in years. A large contingent of Cornell fans and its band made the trip to Ann Arbor and did their best to try to take over the building. Berenson believes that's when U-M fans really developed into a college hockey crowd. "Our program was coming but when we played Cornell, our building just changed," Berenson said. "The Cornell fans brought a lot of theior chants and their tradition to this building. From then on our crowd has taken off." U-M (18-1-1) hosts Cornell (8-4-2) for the first time since that series at 7 p.m. tonight. The 1990-91 season was the last time the NCAA used the best 2-of-3 series format to decide the first two rounds of the tournament. U-M and Cornell went the full three games before the Wolverines advanced with a 9-3 victory in Game Three. U-M fans first heard the cries of "Sieve, sieve, sieve" and "It's all your fault" directed at their goaltender during the series. Now, U-M fans use those chants to help turn Yost into one of the toughest places for the opposing team to play. "I think it's probably one of the noisier rinks in college hockey," senior forward brendan Morrison said. "I couldn't imagine being a freshman goaltender out there. It's a great advantage for us." Yost hasn't been a place for most netminders lately as 12 of the last 22 games have seen the visiting goaltender pulled early. Visiting squads in general haven't had much luck either, as U-M has lost no more than twice a year over the past five seasons. The U-M faithful listened to Cornell fans count up the goals after each score, antagonize the goaltender from the start and even anger the crowd by playing the Michigan State fight song. U-M adopted and altered many of the cheers, including some of the profane ones. Jon Wardener [Pep band french horn player class of '79] , an Ann Arbor resident who is president of the Cornell Club of Michigan, recalls his days of watching Big Red hockey as a student in the 1970s. He and 99 other members of the club have tickets for tonight's game. "Thinking back to some of the things I did as a student, I'd be embarassed to do them now," Wardner said. "We expect to hear the same stuff from the Michigan fans (tonight), though." Now an avid Wolverine fan - except when they play the Big Red - Wardner sees many similarities between the Yost crowds and the fans at Cornell's Lynah Rink. "Yost is louder and larger but the spirit and intensity is similar," Wardner said. "The fans in both places are frenzied." One of the U-M fans' fovorite cheers - a forceful "See-ya" given to an opponent as he enters the penalty box - actually made its arrival before the Cornell series. it had long been used by Duke basketball fans before becoming one of the most enthusiastic chants at Yost. "I think it's a real effective cheer," U-M fan Mabelle Kirk said. "It emphasizes the fact that we're going on a power play and that the other team did something bad." Most of the cheers and chants begin with the pep band in the south end zone. it initiates the counting of the goals, antagonizes goaltenders, and sends penalized players away with a drumroll. Berenson claims that the band makes his team a goal or two better at home by helping the crowd get into the game. "I just love that pep band," U-M fans Mickey Grant said. "That's what really makes these games for me." "In their fiorst tournament appearance in 14 seasons, not only did the Wolverines learn how tough playing in the tournament was, but the fans realized what it would take to give Yost a real home-ice advantage. "We learned how good and how hard you have to play to be successful in the NCAA's," Berenson said. "It seems like everybody turns it up another notch." U-M would get swept by Boston University in the next round but the Wolverines had finally gained an essential piece that would help the program for years to come. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Well, maybe I was wrong about this being less trollish than the USCHO boards. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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My bad for trying to have a little fun.
And I set myself up so easily too!!! Let me help you out: Still bitter? http://i12.tinypic.com/3yy2m45.jpg |
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Hehe. That HC win was something else. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
I just hate all the crap that gets thrown back and forth on USCHO; I just wouldn't want this to get off on the wrong foot with "Hey UNH fans, remember this!?" I'm sure you didn't mean bad; maybe I was a little quick to react. I just love that there's a college hockey thread here and wouldn't want it to devolve. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] LET'S GO RED!! |
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I'm a huge hockey fan up in Vancouver, Canada. I know nothing of college hockey other than the Frozen Four. So educate me. Who are the favourites this year?
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JordanIB, I know your pain. I went to my friend's dorm room to watch the game with our friends. We were all decked out in our Lynah Faithful shirts and glued to the screen for the entire game. It was an incredible game and we gave the eventual national champs all they could handle.
We've lost a lot of good guys, but hopefully we can have a decent year; USCHO projects them finishing 4th in the ECAC I think. I'll be following them via USCHO all year. Go Big Red!! |
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I'm the worst kind of Big Red hockey fan, I usually start following them around playoff time. So I'm very excited about this thread.
Can you guys tell me a little bit about what to look for with this team? |
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People look at me like I'm crazy when I say this, but when I went to Michigan (92-96), hockey was the best sport to watch in person. Yost is awesome for hockey, and I love the metal bleachers. The fans are rabid, and you had to camp out in the Union just to get season tickets (where in football everyone gets them, and basketball at the time was based on seniority). Also keep in mind, that my freshman year in college was the first year of the Fab Five, and Desmond Howard had just won the Heisman, so I think that's a pretty big thing to say. I still try to get to Yost for a couple of games per year.
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Lived in Boston my whole life up until a year ago when I moved to NYC. My fiance went to BU for grad school and Jack Parker is a family friend, so I'm rooting for the Terriers FTW, and moving to NYC makes me slightly less bitter about them building the Agganis Arena, which is beautiful but nothing will ever have the ambiance of Walter Brown Arena.
What's that? BC Sucks! BC Sucks! |
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Lived in Boston my whole life up until a year ago when I moved to NYC. My fiance went to BU for grad school and Jack Parker is a family friend, so I'm rooting for the Terriers FTW, and moving to NYC makes me slightly less bitter about them building the Agganis Arena, which is beautiful but nothing will ever have the ambiance of Walter Brown Arena. What's that? BC Sucks! BC Sucks! [/ QUOTE ] FYI. Cornell vs BU. Madison Square Garden. November 24, 2007. |
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my alma mater doesn't have NCAA hockey
The club hockey is among the best time on campus though |
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Hideous performance at East Lansing last night by Michigan. 3-1 lead at the end of 1 leads to a 5-3 deficit after 2 and a 7-4 loss. Red hasn't beaten MSU in his last 9 tries (although about half of those are ties). We should not be ranked at all, IMO, but if we win tonight at home we probably still will be. Name recognition can carry the team for now, but it won't save it in the Pairwise Rankings.
Haven't had a bad season since I started following them, this might be it. Given the way sports went here last year, should've happened last year. |
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I always wondered how Canadian universities would match up to US colleges
does anyone have any clue? |
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College hockey is not big in Canada. The players are guys who couldn't play juniors or for an American college. A lot of these schools play US teams in exhibition games and usually lose. The first game my Freshman year of college, my school, Northern Michigan beat a Canadian college 20-2.
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I always wondered how Canadian universities would match up to US colleges does anyone have any clue? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, we have a good clue. The Canadian universities routinely play the US colleges in pre-season exhibition games. Cornell plays one each year as its tune-up before the regular season, when we've only got about 5 practices and an intrasquad scrimmage under our belt. This year it was York, and we won 11-1. |
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Hideous performance at East Lansing last night by Michigan. 3-1 lead at the end of 1 leads to a 5-3 deficit after 2 and a 7-4 loss. Red hasn't beaten MSU in his last 9 tries (although about half of those are ties). We should not be ranked at all, IMO, but if we win tonight at home we probably still will be. Name recognition can carry the team for now, but it won't save it in the Pairwise Rankings. Haven't had a bad season since I started following them, this might be it. Given the way sports went here last year, should've happened last year. [/ QUOTE ] The polls are obviously meaningless. But it has always seemed to me that if a WCHA, HE or CCHA team can put up slightly better than a .500 season with a couple of quality wins, that may be good enough to get high enough in the PWR for a bid. Living in the ECAC it's a much different story. I'm excited for tonight. Seeing the Big Red in action up @ Yale. Off to a quick 3-0 start, but with wins vs. UNH and Colgate, Yale is looking like a dangerous team this year. Should be fun! |
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College hockey is not big in Canada. The players are guys who couldn't play juniors or for an American college. A lot of these schools play US teams in exhibition games and usually lose. The first game my Freshman year of college, my school, Northern Michigan beat a Canadian college 20-2. [/ QUOTE ] yeah I figured the good players would play for a CHL team rather than a university team in Canada |
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I went to Saint Lawrence and was a big fan. They play in the same league as Harvard and Cornell and Brown right?
GO SAINTS! Does anyone know if they are gonna be any good this year? |
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I always wondered how Canadian universities would match up to US colleges does anyone have any clue? [/ QUOTE ] Canadian college hockey teams are little more than glorified intramural teams. Anyone who's any good in Canada is either snapped up by the juniors system in their mid-teens, or gets a college scholarship in the US. The other responders to this are right on the mark. I was at that Cornell-York game the other night at Lynah and it was brutally ugly. The only reason it was only 11-1 was that Schafer doesn't generally run up the score on people. It could've been a lot worse. |
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I went to Saint Lawrence and was a big fan. They play in the same league as Harvard and Cornell and Brown right? GO SAINTS! Does anyone know if they are gonna be any good this year? [/ QUOTE ] One of the few things you can set your watch to in ECAC hockey is that St. Lawrence is always going to be good and competitive, but that they're not going to be great. I can't remember ever seeing an outright -bad- Saints team, but I don't ever remember seeing one that was a national championship contender either (although I think they did make it to one national title game in the mid-80s, way before my time - I'm Cornell class on '94). Nothing too different should happen this year. --Scott |
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Michigan gets the split this weekend. Incidentally, we've gone 10 straight weekend series (not counting CCHA playoffs last year) without sweeping. Terrible. The team crushes MSU 6-2. It's like they play when they feel like it. They need to get their heads on straight.
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Just in general, does anyone know if there has been a change in officiating this year in college hockey, or at least in the ECAC? In past years, I remember seeing a team getting called for 6 or 7 penalties tops per game. I've been to 4 games so far this year, and I don't think either team in any game has not gotten called for at least 10. There has been so little 5 on 5 from what I've seen.
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Just in general, does anyone know if there has been a change in officiating this year in college hockey, or at least in the ECAC? In past years, I remember seeing a team getting called for 6 or 7 penalties tops per game. I've been to 4 games so far this year, and I don't think either team in any game has not gotten called for at least 10. There has been so little 5 on 5 from what I've seen. [/ QUOTE ] It's likely skewed watching the ECAC. Our refs suck. Bad. Refereeing was actually pretty decent tonight in the Cornell/Harvard game at Lynah. Which I didn't expect, since it was John Murphy doing the honors -- probably the worst in the league. Pretty boring game for most of it. cornell score 2 mins in, Harvard quickly tied, then 45 minutes of hard work along the boards and in the corners, stifling defense from Harvard, and horrid Cornell passing. Harvard took the lead with 7 mins left. Cornell ties it on a goal off the draw with 3+ min to play, and goes ahead a couple minutes to play and goes ahead on a breakaway goal at the tail end of a successful penalty kill. Great start. Great finish. 50 minutes of crap in between. LET'S GO RED! Surprisingly -- giving their recent success -- Cornell is 5-0 for the first time in 30 years. |
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It's likely skewed watching the ECAC. Our refs suck. Bad. [/ QUOTE ] I actually got my wish this weekend, somewhat. Listened to the webcast of the first period of the Quinnipiac/Clarkson game on Friday because I couldn't get to the game. Only 11 minors called in the game, but Clarkson had 3 players sent off for checking from behind, which from what I heard after the fact, were all defensemen. Quinnipiac scores the game winner on a penalty shot halfway through the third and adds an empty netter later to win 6-4. Saturday night, I was at the Princeton/Clarkson. Again 11 minors called, with two being matching minors for roughing after a scrum after the whistle in front of the Princeton net. Clarkson looked gassed all night and Princeton dominated the game, getting several good chances on rushes after skating around or by the Clarkson defense. Princeton wins 3-2. |
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Surprisingly -- giving their recent success -- Cornell is 5-0 for the first time in 30 years. [/ QUOTE ] Nice job, jinx. |
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michigan has one of the best centers in the country (tj hensick) and best scoring defenseman (jack johnson). i've gone to a few of the games and we're really talented compared to our opponents, but i feel like our goalie (sauer) isn't great. i dunno if we'll be able to go that far with him in net.
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Well the team pulled it together and swept UNO in a mostly good-looking performance. I really don't think Sauer is the problem: he's not a solution, either, but if the team didn't commit so many bad penalties and turnovers, they'd be fine. Still, it's going to be tough to make a run against comparably talented teams with him in goal, even if we are clicking.
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So what are the early story lines in the other major conferences?
In the ECAC it's probably Harvard and Colgate sitting at the bottom of the standings. Also, come PWR time, the ECAC may get a boost from some key out-of-conference victories, such as Harvard over BC and Yale beating UNH. What are the two main bullet points for your conference so far? |
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In the CCHA, it has to be the resurgence of Notre Dame. Still very early, but at 8-1-1, it's pretty clear they don't suck hardcore, and in fact may turn out to be quite good. I guess I'll have to rely on my memories of all three goalies playing and 8 Irish in the penalty box at once. Those were the days...
No idea on story #2, since my following of college hockey at Michigan is somewhat outweighed by another upcoming college sports event...I can't quite remember what, but I think it's pretty big. So I'll just say Michigan's inconsistency, although that is mostly based on a lack of knowledge of other teams at this point. |
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Bumping this back up. Big win for Michigan last night, 2-1 against MSU. After 9 straight non-wins (something like 0-3-6), we've got two in a row. More importantly, we've won 5 games in a row. Also, the team looked pretty sharp all game long. No dumb penalties or careless turnovers. The power play was excellent as well.
Big games this weekend as the College Hockey Showcase goes west this year. Wisconsin is down, but Minnesota is a near-unanimous #1. I hope this on FSN or something: I'd really like to be able to see it. |
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Bumping this back up. Big win for Michigan last night, 2-1 against MSU. After 9 straight non-wins (something like 0-3-6), we've got two in a row. More importantly, we've won 5 games in a row. Also, the team looked pretty sharp all game long. No dumb penalties or careless turnovers. The power play was excellent as well. Big games this weekend as the College Hockey Showcase goes west this year. Wisconsin is down, but Minnesota is a near-unanimous #1. I hope this on FSN or something: I'd really like to be able to see it. [/ QUOTE ] yep, great game last night at Yost. T.J. Hensick PWNS. |
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Big win by Michigan at Wisconsin tonight. 7 in a row. Now a huge game at Minnesota tmw.
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