Am I liable to pay for poker debt accrued now that poker is banned???
 

Okay, Im ready to take the heat and scrutiny. A few months before US Banned online poker, I dropped about 2K on BODOG (instant check feature) and other sites via Firepay (overdrated the firepay account). Now that gambling is officially banned and Firepay is out of the "game", am I still liable for the money that is owed to Bodog and Firepay? I know firepay already handed the account over to some collection agency but I haven't heard from them in over 2 months (usually, they send a letter saying i owe this much etc) and as for Bodog, besides 2 emails a LONG time ago, I have not heard from them. I know it is ETHICALLY, MORALLY, etc wrong to NOT pay up on what I owe. But what is the ruling on this now that gambling is banned?

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anyone??

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(usually, they send a letter saying i owe this much etc)

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You sound like a winner.

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I don't remember seeing oopsydaisy exonerated of any debt in the new law. Your not going to pay, theres nothing they can do about it. You probably won't be able to get a checking account and the collection agency will mark up your credit report.

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if i already have a checking account and credit card, will they close the accounts? I do understand i messed up big time by getting into debt and yes, i do suck at life. I just need some advice now.

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There are principles of contract law that saw that you can't contract to do something illegal. The problem is that the new law doesn't make playing online poker illegal. So get a [censored] job and pay your debt.

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Has anyone on the forums been in my situation before?

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There are principles of contract law that saw that you can't contract to do something illegal. The problem is that the new law doesn't make playing online poker illegal. So get a [censored] job and pay your debt.

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So what does the new law make it illegal for poker players to do?

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if i already have a checking account and credit card, will they close the accounts? I do understand i messed up big time by getting into debt and yes, i do suck at life. I just need some advice now.

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Do you think think it will magically go away? What advice could you possibly hope for other than pay your debt?

Your current accounts will probably be fine. The fact of the matter is there is not much they can do but ruin your credit. I suspect it's already ruined though. Technically you can be taken to small claims court but it is almost never done even for debts aquired in this country.

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Hahahahahahaahhahahaha...

You must be very young and don't even know anything about credit history.

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So what does the new law make it illegal for poker players to do?

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Nothing

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So what does the new law make it illegal for poker players to do?

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so what you are saying is, party poker pretty much just freaked out over nothing and lost alot of us based customers? And yes my credit sucks and this was a lesson that I learned and hopefully in time I will be able to pay back all that is owed to the penny.

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Hahahahahahaahhahahaha...

You must be very young and don't even know anything about credit history.

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I don't, when it comes to financial matters, I am not the smartest. But you probably knew this already too. And I probably should've NEVER gotten in gambling/poker.

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I heard Walmart pays pretty good.

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the legislation is basically now trying to tell Party and other sites that it is supposedly illegal for them to ACCEPT online wagers.
But even this aspect is debateable since they are overseas, there was a previous WTO ruling about this, etc.

The legislation does not make playing online-poker illegal.

Yes, some people think that Party very much over-reacted to the new legislation. But obviously Party wasn't alone in this and they may be more concerned about the fact that they're a publicly traded company.


You somehow think any of this might relate to relieving you of your debt which seems pretty silly to me.

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Is there a person on the forums that work in the industry? I know TruePokerCEO does but if anyone else that has great knowledge on this subject matter, can comment I would appreciate your input(s)

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Is there a person on the forums that work in the industry? I know TruePokerCEO does but if anyone else that has great knowledge on this subject matter, can comment I would appreciate your input(s)

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I'm sure a site operator is just dying to tell you and others how to scam them. They are not going to throw you in jail, they will possibly get this on your credit report if you do not pay it. Simple as that. If the collection agency puts your bounced EFT's on your credit report it will make it difficult for you to obtain new credit and possibly affect your current credit limits and interest rates on existing credit cards if they pull your credit info.

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Is there a person on the forums that work in the industry? I know TruePokerCEO does but if anyone else that has great knowledge on this subject matter, can comment I would appreciate your input(s)

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Listen - You owe the money, you always will. At least until the SOL runs out. You have received everything you need to know in this thread. A debt is a debt, it does not matter that it is a gambling debt. An "industry" person will not be able to give you more info and most likely will be less than willing to help you.

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yelp...

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But what is the ruling on this now that gambling is banned?

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This is pretty irrelevant. I would pay Bodog whatever you owe them. The Russian mafia maintains a presence in Costa Rica and a very large contingent in the US. These gentlemen will not just break your kneecaps, they have a reputation for applying pressure to family members.

As far as FirePay, tell them to pound sand up their ass for the money.

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But what is the ruling on this now that gambling is banned?

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This is pretty irrelevant. I would pay Bodog whatever you owe them. The Russian mafia maintains a presence in Costa Rica and a very large contingent in the US. These gentlemen will not just break your kneecaps, they have a reputation for applying pressure to family members.

As far as FirePay, tell them to pound sand up their ass for the money.

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are you serious?

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are you serious?

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Yes. And if you wait until they send representatives to collect you will likely be looking at an amount 10x your original debt. If you have a reasonably decent looking sister they might prostitute her for a few months to cover part of the debt.

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funny guy.

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... If you have a reasonably decent looking sister...

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Now there you go. This forum might be able to work out a solution for your debts afterall.

Post pix and prices please.

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Hahahahahahaahhahahaha...

You must be very young and don't even know anything about credit history.

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Exactly.

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funny guy.

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You think?

Ask yourself this: Why do you NEVER see posts like your original post nor hear about situations like you just described?

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... If you have a reasonably decent looking sister...

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Now there you go. This forum might be able to work out a solution for your debts afterall.

Post pix and prices please.

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$20/HR

I owe roughly $2000 to Firepay + BODOG.. Serious takers PM now http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/images/a...4/sov1_420.jpg

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I'll take 10 hours at $20.

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...and he was worried about debt and gambling law.

**looks up "prostituting own sister" in law book case history**

Where did you say you were from oops? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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$20/HR

I owe roughly $2000 to Firepay + BODOG.. Serious takers PM now

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Either you misunderstand or you are not taking this serious.

They will take your sister to Brooklyn. She will be forced to live in squalor with mostly illegal alien eastern European women who are paying off their own debts. She will be forced to dance in nude bars for 12 to 14 hours each night for six nights per week. She will service dozens of men each night in the private dance area.

You will be credited way less that $20 per hour for her services, more like $0.75

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This thread is gold.

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$20/HR

I owe roughly $2000 to Firepay + BODOG.. Serious takers PM now

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Either you misunderstand or you are not taking this serious.

They will take your sister to Brooklyn. She will be forced to live in squalor with mostly illegal alien eastern European women who are paying off their own debts. She will be forced to dance in nude bars for 12 to 14 hours each night for six nights per week. She will service dozens of men each night in the private dance area.

You will be credited way less that $20 per hour for her services, more like $0.75

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I believe he is trying to raise the money himself (or, with the help of his sister, in this case) BEFORE the Eastern Europeans pull up in the black Suburban's.

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Am I liable to pay for poker debt accrued now that poker is banned?

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Let me explain...

No, there is too mcuh. Let me sum up.

1. Poker is not banned.
2. Yes, you still owe your debt.

Any more questions?


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This thread is gold.

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Yep.

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I'll take 10 hours at $20.

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same. dead serious too.

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Ignore it until someone shows up with a baseball bat.

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Classic

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Seriously, someone who you borrowed money from, without a contract, just by verbal agreement, has a better chance of getting money from you.

Congrats, you are pretty much off the hook.

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I suggest you read these its not #1 by mistake

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I suggest you read these its not #1 by mistake

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Heck, honoring any debt is a good rule to follow.

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If you stiffed your pot dealer for $200 bucks, he couldn't sue you in court. I think the same concept may apply here.


Morally, wrong.
Legally, you got away with it.