Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

Yesterday I played this hand: UTG is Patrik Antonius friend, Patrik was waiting behind him to go to eat, he looks great and relaxed after winning millions online and he is training for his $200.000 tennis match in January against Gus Hansen, so back to the hand. UTG raised, I'm UTG+1 and got A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and 3bets, everybody folds to big fish in BB who calls. UTG 4B and I 5Bets, fish calls. Flop: 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG bets I 2b fish calls UTG 3b I 4b fish calls UTG 5b, call, call at that point I'm not thinking about KK but top set.
Turn 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and now fish leads!, UTG call in disgust and I call with the nut flush draw.
River 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and fish bets again, UTG calls and I call.
Would you have play any different? Who do you think was the winner?

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

you need to fold the river.

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

I think you played it well. Interesting question is if fish checks turn and UTG leads again. I would still raise. As played I don't think UTG has you beat (maybe tied) so its fish or you who won.

-DeathDonkey

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

I really think you should fold the river.

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

I would say it's most likely fish has the best hand. You might be second, more likely you're tied for second and possibly in third. Heck, fish might have a strangely played big pocket pair and you might even have won or chopped.

I suppose a case can be made for just calling the 3-bet on the flop and then raising the turn when UTG bets, to try to keep from being drawn out on by fish on the river. But he'd probably cold-call two anyway.

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

[ QUOTE ]
I really think you should fold the river.

[/ QUOTE ]
-Tongni

[ QUOTE ]
you need to fold the river.

[/ QUOTE ]
- mike l.

Would you guys mind sharing your hand ranges for the opponents??? I almost want to fold the river too but I wonder if it's a situation where the pot is so big that hand ranges dictate a call.

thanks,

WT

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I really think you should fold the river.

[/ QUOTE ]
-Tongni

[ QUOTE ]
you need to fold the river.

[/ QUOTE ]
- mike l.

Would you guys mind sharing your hand ranges for the opponents??? I almost want to fold the river too but I wonder if it's a situation where the pot is so big that hand ranges dictate a call.

thanks,

WT

[/ QUOTE ]

from my reading, karpov was good, but with an inappropriate tag of uncreative. surely in the top 10, possibly 5, i dont know, cuz im not good

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

Getting 20 to 1 and closing the action on the river I am calling this - you are likley not good (I would put BB on either TT or the flush, although would he call 3 preflop with less than a suited A?) - but I think you are good way more than the required 5% (and I think UTG either has KK or QQ or possibly chopping with the other AA) - AF

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

would fish smash the turn w/ KsKx? and then hit the river again?

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

[ QUOTE ]
would fish smash the turn w/ KsKx? and then hit the river again?

[/ QUOTE ]

Why are you putting a fish on that hand?

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

This would have to be a special kind of fish to not be ahead of AA here. You don't exactly have to be a shark to be 100% sure someone has AA here.

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

well reading the hand as it played out......i think patrick somehow won the hand.

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
would fish smash the turn w/ KsKx? and then hit the river again?

[/ QUOTE ]

Why are you putting a fish on that hand?

[/ QUOTE ]

do fish deal themselves bad hands now too?

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

[ QUOTE ]
well reading the hand as it played out......i think patrick somehow won the hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, if he won outright, not a chop, then there are two special players at the table.

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

I think the fish won with a straight i would of went all in on the next round and forced them to fold

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
would fish smash the turn w/ KsKx? and then hit the river again?

[/ QUOTE ]

Why are you putting a fish on that hand?

[/ QUOTE ]

do fish deal themselves bad hands now too?

[/ QUOTE ]

???

So you're saying by the way he played the hand, KsKx is a legitimate possibility?

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

Geeez, another hand discussion that starts with "I got aces..".

Anyways, I'd can't wait for the Gus-Patrik tennis match.

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

[ QUOTE ]
well reading the hand as it played out......i think patrick somehow won the hand.

[/ QUOTE ]
Even when he wasnt dealt in?

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

[ QUOTE ]
This would have to be a special kind of fish to not be ahead of AA here. You don't exactly have to be a shark to be 100% sure someone has AA here.

[/ QUOTE ]
Sp why the lead instead of c/r? Simple, "OMG, I hit and now beat his AA, I bet!" thinking?

Re: Showdown
 

Fish shows 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG shows 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Re: Showdown
 

[ QUOTE ]
UTG shows 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

lol

Re: Interesting Hand Yesterday at the Bellagio 100-200 LH
 

I read the showdown. I read this post a couple of days ago and was too busy to post.

This is what I was thinking when I first read it:
With that kind of action of the flop you are already beat most of the time with a set and now you need to make the flush. On the turn most fish won't bet without a flush vs. two people (with that kind of action...due to knowing someone is going to call). The river has to be folded(because of the last statement).

Every good player lays the best hand down sometimes and even more in no-limit.

Best,
Terri