Gamble?
 

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($415.20)
Hero ($469)
UTG ($546.11)
MP ($993.90)
Button ($261.59)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $4, Button calls $4, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($16) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, MP calls $15, Button folds, SB pushes

Re: Gamble?
 

I don't think so.

Re: Gamble?
 

I like it wth the Ac but without it I fold.

Re: Gamble?
 

With an overbet of this size, there is too much chance that:
A) You are against a set that is shoving to protect (or top two with 97s, etc) which severely devalues your hand
B) You are facing AcXc, which would be a death knell against your hand.

Add in the fact that you have little invested, and this turns into a fold.

Re: Gamble?
 

I would love to get it in against AcXc

Re: Gamble?
 

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I would love to get it in against AcXc

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Yeah I'm down for that too.

Re: Gamble?
 

Put me down for a fold, people don't do this with draws too often.

Re: Gamble?
 

Call if your rolled and want a loose image. Vs a normal range your not in THAT bad shape.

Re: Gamble?
 

This is a set or top-2 very very often. 10/8 clubs is also a real possibility...Run it threw pokerstove...

DG

Re: Gamble?
 

fold

Re: Gamble?
 

gamble here = donk off stack

Re: Gamble?
 

definitely call, huge mondo overshove is more often something loco than a set/top2. and we're in great shape against any other FD/combodraw.

also, gamboooooooool!

Re: Gamble?
 

Board: 9c 7s 3c

Hand 1: { Kc7c }
Hand 2: { TT-99, 77, 33, 9c8c, 8c6c, 5c4c, 97o }
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 44.0643 % 44.06% 00.01%
Hand 2: 55.9357 % 55.93% 00.01%

I think you can profitably call if you are getting paid at least 3:2 or better. You can't rely on MP to call. So, if MP folds, you'll need to win 600 or more to call 400 on the push. In this case, there is $46 in the pot + $400 raise, so you'll win only $460. That isn't quite 1:1, but almost.

So, fold - unless you put villain on a much wider range of hands including a fairly large number of bluffs. In that case, you might have to rethink, but folding is still probably best.

Re: Gamble?
 

if he shoves big draws with any frequency then you have to call...

Also, even if slightly -EV, it Meta Game considerations might swing it the other way... Throw in the possiblity of monkey-spew if you crack his set, I think this is 50/50 at worst.. Flip a coin, cause I's not too shabby either way..

Re: Gamble?
 

Call quickly.

Outdraw.

Rinse with soap and water.

Profit from sweet image.

Repeat.

Re: Gamble?
 

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Call quickly.

Outdraw.

Rinse with soap and water.

Profit from sweet image.

Repeat.

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Ahh, the simplified algorithm for our slower members...NH

Re: Gamble?
 

hmmm you're only getting 460:400 on a probable coinflip. I guess there's some slight EV but probably not worth the gamble.

He could have a higher club draw in which case you're currently leading but he probably has some overs too, which would still be a coinflip.

It would be an ideal situation if he had something like Tc8c but even still a fold is probably best overall.

Re: Gamble?
 

callllll

Re: Gamble?
 

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I like it wth the Ac but without it I fold.

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the fact that hero doesn't have Ac should motivate you to call, if he did have Ac, then u might wanna fold.

Re: Gamble?
 

He had 106 of clubs and I won with a pair of sevens.

Re: Gamble?
 

call cuz we own other draws and we're decent against other one pair hands and live against sets (which are by far the least likely). gc nh