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4betaboutit 01-30-2006 02:30 PM

I\'ve never seen anything like this. Bodog 5/10
 
I'm playing 5/10 full-ring at Bodog. I get dealt AK off in MP at a wild table with big pots. UTG raises it up to $40, 2 callers before me, I call from MP, guy right behind me calls. Then the button re-raises to $200, everyone before me calls, I call, guy on my left folds. So it's 5-way action on a $1,055 pot before the flop with no one all-in, and I have no idea wtf is going on.

Flop comes 3s-Kd-7d. UTG goes all-in for $1524.93 (btw there is a guy who has him covered in the pot). Folded around to me who calls, which puts me all-in for the rest of my chips ($790). Button folds. Turn comes Q of spades. River comes a 2 of spades. Villain flips over (results in white) <font color="white">2Q diamonds and wins the pot with running 2 pair </font>.

I guess the only question I have for y'all is whether it would've been better had I went all-in preflop (the second time around). 2 of the players in the pot, including the button, were solid yet loose players, there was one shortstack ($400 or so) in EP, and UTG was a clown who played way too loose.

KaneKungFu123 01-30-2006 02:33 PM

Re: I\'ve never seen anything like this. Bodog 5/10
 
You should have minraised when it got to you.

4betaboutit 01-30-2006 02:53 PM

Re: I\'ve never seen anything like this. Bodog 5/10
 
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You should have minraised when it got to you.

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Are you joking? Because I can't tell.

gomberg 01-30-2006 03:01 PM

Re: I\'ve never seen anything like this. Bodog 5/10
 
I'd consider a 3bet preflop the 1rst time it gets to you, but can understand why you didn't... - and for sure a push in the 2nd time after that. No way do I call there - I push in everytime. If I think I'm against AA or KK, I fold. Way too much dead money in the pot and you have some huge equity - push and increase your equity % in it preflop.

noggindoc 01-30-2006 03:16 PM

Re: I\'ve never seen anything like this. Bodog 5/10
 
If you've never seen anything like this I'm forced to ask how long you've been playing online poker.

hit_the_set 01-30-2006 03:21 PM

Re: I\'ve never seen anything like this. Bodog 5/10
 
allin preflop.

4betaboutit 01-30-2006 03:44 PM

Re: I\'ve never seen anything like this. Bodog 5/10
 
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allin preflop.

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Next time I will.

4betaboutit 01-30-2006 03:50 PM

Re: I\'ve never seen anything like this. Bodog 5/10
 
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If you've never seen anything like this I'm forced to ask how long you've been playing online poker.

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A 5-way pot with 4 people calling a $200 re-raise is something new to me, my apologies for making you suffer through reading my uninteresting post. For what it's worth I have been playing for an year and a half now, and I can't recall the last time I've been in a similar situation at this level. Please stop being worthless and either contribute something or go away.

JMP300z 01-30-2006 05:50 PM

Re: I\'ve never seen anything like this. Bodog 5/10
 
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allin preflop.

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As mentioned. Dead money + equity + see all 5 cards.

-JP

RikaKazak 01-30-2006 06:01 PM

Re: I\'ve never seen anything like this. Bodog 5/10
 
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You should have minraised when it got to you.

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I agree [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] nothing scary than a miniraise 5 way [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] LOL

Ra_aBluya 02-01-2006 12:03 AM

Re: I\'ve never seen anything like this. Bodog 5/10
 
all in preflop? i've never been a fan of that, sometimes i put a short stack all in when they raise into me preflop, but not when you risk anything close to a full buy in.

just need to accept losses, it's not like you were a huge favorite, he didn't need to hit running cards, it just stung worse when he did.

i've been thinking about creating a bodog account, your thread here just convinced me. Sounds like a great site.

JD9712 02-01-2006 02:24 AM

Re: I\'ve never seen anything like this. Bodog 5/10
 
I agree with the other people; if you cant believe things like that can happen you either havent been playing online for very long, or perhaps you should give online poker a miss because instances such as this are an inevitability.

Let me share with you a situation I found myself in about a month ago:

I was playing in a $10/$20 NL Hold ‘em casher on partypoker about a month ago, full ring. On my right were two very loose players with around their original $2000 in chips having fluctuated greatly, I had around $4000 having profited greatly from their loose play, and on my right was a very tight player with a stack of similar size to mine who had made his money out of the top 4 hands only from my observations, so I had a lot of thinking to do practically each hand. On the small blind I picked up pocket Aces; the table folds around to the cut-off position, this player bets $400, the button raises to $1000, I (obviously) re-raise all in. The big blind calls for his entire stack, the cut-off calls for his stack, and the button calls for his stack. I cannot believe my luck at this point: $12.5k pot with aces.

The cards are flipped: The cut-off has KK, the button has JJ, I show my AA, and the big blind has 4-3 off-suit.

The board read as follows: 4 3 4 3 4

I realise that this board is entirely as possible in live play as it is in online play. Any other situation I would welcome this board. The part that interests me is that faced with a raise of 20xBB, a re-raise to 50xBB, a re-re-raise covering his entire stack, this player, who was one of the tightest I have observed to date found a way to call all-in with 4-3 off-suit. If the player had decided to raise with 4-3, I could understand it as being a move taking advantage of his early steady play; but to call 3 raises for his entire stack does not add up.

I have the hand history direct from partypoker.com detailing this; if anyone is interested in seeing it I’d be happy to pass it on. I have questioned partypoker about this particular hand and received only standard "our processes are rigorously scrutinised and our randomisation passes statutory guidelines..." etc etc etc.

$4000 comes and $4000 goes – and there was about a 30-odd percent chance that one of the other hands would beat me anyway; however to see a player call an all-in with 4-3 offsuit and make quads + trips left a bad taste in my mouth for a long while.

(As a side note, I recovered my lost money over 16 hours of play, only to lose $5000 when beaten with AA by KK when the flop came AK2 rainbow).

So if you're thinking for a moment that stories like the one you told are impossible, improbable, or in any way, irregular; OR, that any other online player should feel sorry for you; you should probably re-evaluate your choice of hobby. I'm Alan Jones.

GameTheory 02-01-2006 04:13 AM

Re: I\'ve never seen anything like this. Bodog 5/10
 
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You should have minraised when it got to you.

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Elon_Poker23 02-01-2006 04:28 AM

Re: I\'ve never seen anything like this. Bodog 5/10
 
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If you've never seen anything like this I'm forced to ask how long you've been playing online poker.

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Haha - well put. However, this ones pretty bad - nothing but runner runner two pair. I have 2 ... no 1 word. REBUY! nail those donks!


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