Getting 3bet on turn, but checked to on river
 

Opponent is unknown. This is a bet right?

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Preflop: Peter is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Peter raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Peter bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, Peter calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Peter raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Peter calls.

River: (11 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks,

Re: Getting 3bet on turn, but checked to on river
 

Can you fold to a raise? I probably 3-bet the flop.

Thanks,

Guido

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Opponent is unknown. This is a bet right?

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Peter is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Peter raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Peter bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, Peter calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Peter raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Peter calls.

River: (11 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks,

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if he c/red you with a made hand, why would he slowdown on a blank river? If he c/red with spades, he's not calling.

It feels like he'll either c/r you again or just fold a missed draw.

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Opponent is unknown. This is a bet right?

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Peter is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Peter raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Peter bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, Peter calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Peter raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Peter calls.

River: (11 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks,

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if he c/red you with a made hand, why would he slowdown on a blank river? If he c/red with spades, he's not calling.

It feels like he'll either c/r you again or just fold a missed draw.

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If he does have spades, given his flop c/r he may well also have a pair (Jxs) which will call the river cuz no one folds a pair. But I'm worried about a straight/monster of some sort or another missed draw (diamonds) so I still like a check.

Re: Getting 3bet on turn, but checked to on river
 

Check. Looks like he's going for the pwnage. When he is a good player, you lose 2 bets. When is bad you make 0 and when he is awful you make 2. We will know which he is if you check so i check the 1st time.

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easy river check. dude, is getting cute with a better hand way more often than giving up by check/calling.

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I can handle the emotional hit of missing a thin river value bet better than the emotional hit from allowing him to pull off a trifecta.

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I can handle the emotional hit of missing a thin river value bet better than the emotional hit from allowing him to pull off a trifecta.

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I like this.
Thanks all for replying. I checked but I was a little afraid that my recent results made me a little weak. I guess not in this hand.
FWIW, opponent showed Jxs.

Re: Getting 3bet on turn, but checked to on river
 

i would bet fold when playing well i think. or maybe thats when playing bad.

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I can handle the emotional hit of missing a thin river value bet better than the emotional hit from allowing him to pull off a trifecta.

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I like a river check as well for this exact reason.

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River bet is free money.

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River bet is free money.

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You run good. I'm trying to figure out WTF he has; he can't have JXdd, but maybe A8dd? I think river play is pretty close, but it's definitely not free money -- often aggressive opponents will either have a busted hand they won't be calling with (Axdd) or a hand they'll be checkraising. Sometimes they'll have a busted hand that hit somewhat, like A8dd or a simple JXs, but I'm not sure that those hands are usually 3betting the turn after the line you've taken.

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when he checks river i think he has pair plus frush draw a lot.

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4 bet turn check river

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4 bet turn check river

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Are you folding if he leads the river? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Re: Getting 3bet on turn, but checked to on river
 

What would he lead the river with?

Re: Getting 3bet on turn, but checked to on river
 

Better hands than 1-pair, which is why I asked if you're folding.

Re: Getting 3bet on turn, but checked to on river
 

interesting hand. I don't particularly like the check on the river since on the turn theres 2 different draws. It seems like he had one of those and yet wants to showdown. cuz he picked up some random pair of 3s or has A high or has Jx spades or has 8x diamonds. I'd be folding to a c/r on this river if I bet though. So I would only bet if I had my opponent pegged decently well.

Btw, you are kepplinger right? I rememvber playing tons of hands with you as either Fold_Dammit or StuckinChair.

Re: Getting 3bet on turn, but checked to on river
 

Yes, I was Kepplinger. I just posted a thread where I asked for advice on my play. Would you mind posting your thoughts on my play there: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post7710120

Thanks,
Peter

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when he checks river i think he has pair plus frush draw a lot.

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Are you being sarcastic or are you running better nowadays?

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I can handle the emotional hit of missing a thin river value bet better than the emotional hit from allowing him to pull off a trifecta.

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I like this.
Thanks all for replying. I checked but I was a little afraid that my recent results made me a little weak. I guess not in this hand.
FWIW, opponent showed Jxs.

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he missplayed the turn.

Re: Getting 3bet on turn, but checked to on river
 

Just bet it, can't give an unknown too much credit in 10/20.

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Animals!...super easy check imo.

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I'd have to bet the river.

Although its a tough one if i got raised.

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I can handle the emotional hit of missing a thin river value bet better than the emotional hit from allowing him to pull off a trifecta.

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I like a river check as well for this exact reason.

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You should never be checking for this reason. Maintain your composure. Don't let your emotions lead you, just play the damned cards!!

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if he c/red you with a made hand, why would he slowdown on a blank river?

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With this draw heavy board and against an unknown, just check it through.

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4 bet turn check river

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This is terrible

I prob bet call the river...however I bet fold If Im thinking clearly(this however accounts for maybe 50 percent of my playing time).

Re: Getting 3bet on turn, but checked to on river
 

3bet flop check river. You don't wanna get raised and have to fold. Important to see his cards and know who/what you are dealing with.

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That's an expensive pot to lose to a c/r bluff. And although it's going to happen almost never, I've got to say it's a fine spot for one.
I would say bet if I thought that all his pair hands were calling a bet but I highly doubt this is the case, even for his Jxs hands.