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She 10-17-2006 10:14 PM

$1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
Was this too timid? I didn't have much of a read on the table yet, but I was suspect of MP3 because she had just complimented me on a play that I thought wasn't so good. I suspected she was either deceptive or a donk.

UB NL SnG $1+.10. Ten handed. Blinds 10/20.

MP2 with 1600.
MP3 with 1840.
She with 2530.
CO with 925.
BTN with 1015.
SB with 1465.
BB with 1425.
UTG with 1415.
UTG+1 with 1325.
MP1 with 1460.

She: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]


Pre-flop:
UTG calls. <font color="#666666"> UTG+1 folds. </font> MP1 calls.<font color="#666666"> MP2 folds. </font> MP3 calls. She calls. <font color="#666666"> 2 folds. </font> SB calls. <font color="#666666"> BB folds. </font>

Flop (board: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]):

SB checks. UTG checks. MP1
checks. MP3 bets 120. She folds.

I didn't think anyone else had a pocket pair, but I thought it was not unlikely for MP3 to have a high card w/ a 2 kicker. Ideas?
(Thinking back, If I was right I should have called her if she was either deceptive or a donk, right? Or would you have re-raised?)

el_dusto 10-17-2006 10:16 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
i raise. many, many people think their A is the nuts after that flop.

mike28 10-17-2006 10:18 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
raiseraiseraise

bluefeet 10-17-2006 10:19 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 

t400 to go

microbet 10-17-2006 10:22 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
I think you should be trying to get it all in.

You have disproven Zeebo's Theorem though, so that's something.

Pudge714 10-17-2006 10:23 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
I would raise preflop.
I would raise flop.

Eagles 10-17-2006 10:24 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
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I think you should be trying to get it all in.

You have disproven Zeebo's Theorem though, so that's something.

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She 10-17-2006 10:35 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
[ QUOTE ]
You have disproven Zeebo's Theorem though, so that's something.

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What is "Zeebo's Theorem"? I have never heard of it.

microbet 10-17-2006 10:37 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
[ QUOTE ]
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You have disproven Zeebo's Theorem though, so that's something.

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What is "Zeebo's Theorem"? I have never heard of it.

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No one ever folds a full house.

bluefeet 10-17-2006 10:37 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
An opponent will never fold a boat - in the context where this is advantageous to a hero's bigger boat [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

morgan180 10-17-2006 10:40 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
[ QUOTE ]

I didn't think anyone else had a pocket pair, but I thought it was not unlikely for MP3 to have a high card w/ a 2 kicker.

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i don't know about the $1 SNGs but even at the $5s most people aren't holding a high-card w/specifically a 2. I think you are ahead here.

I would raise PF and the flop as others have mentioned.

wiggs73 10-17-2006 10:47 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
please please please please please please please &lt;gasp&gt; please please please please raise the flop. VERY unlikely you are up against a higher pair and i mean seriously, the odds that a) somebody flopped quads and b) they bet their quads is just so unlikely that it's ridiculous to fold TT here b/c you're scared of that.

as opposed to what others have said, at a $1 I like limping preflop b/c a raise is probably just going to get called by everyone that limped and there aren't a ton of flops you're going to be excited to see, save maybe 222 or something. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Scotty_12 10-17-2006 11:12 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
I am curious if you typed that out or if you have a hand converter for UB histories.

Thanks

She 10-17-2006 11:14 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
[ QUOTE ]
I am curious if you typed that out or if you have a hand converter for UB histories.

Thanks

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I coppied and edited it. I haven't been able to find a hand converter that's compatable w/ UB.

futuredoc85 10-17-2006 11:16 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
never give anyone credit for quads.

She 10-17-2006 11:21 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
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An opponent will never fold a boat - in the context where this is advantageous to a hero's bigger boat

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never give anyone credit for quads.

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Ok, now I'm wondering... Does this mean you should fold a boat about as often as you would fold KK? Or would it be better to ask, under what circumstances should you fold a boat? Or are there any?

Scotty_12 10-17-2006 11:22 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I am curious if you typed that out or if you have a hand converter for UB histories.

Thanks

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I coppied and edited it. I haven't been able to find a hand converter that's compatable w/ UB.

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Same here [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Pudge714 10-17-2006 11:27 PM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
An opponent will never fold a boat - in the context where this is advantageous to a hero's bigger boat

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[ QUOTE ]
never give anyone credit for quads.

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Ok, now I'm wondering... Does this mean you should fold a boat about as often as you would fold KK? Or would it be better to ask, under what circumstances should you fold a boat? Or are there any?

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Generally
66772 board. I would fold a bare 6 or 22.
On a 222 board I would fold some pocketpairs depending on the preflop action.

222AK board I would probably only stack off with a 2 KK, AA or an ace.

Dirksqjaw 10-18-2006 01:06 AM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
I only fold boats in Omaha [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

Misfire 10-18-2006 01:26 AM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
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Pre-flop:
UTG calls. <font color="#666666"> UTG+1 folds. </font> MP1 calls.<font color="#666666"> MP2 folds. </font> MP3 calls. She calls. <font color="#666666"> 2 folds. </font> SB calls. <font color="red">BB folds. </font>

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wtf?

Al P 10-18-2006 01:30 AM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
If he did have a 2, why would he bet everyone out of the pot?

lastchance 10-18-2006 01:33 AM

Re: $1+.10 / Almost scared to post this.
 
It happens, people suck.


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