5-10 NL- Holy Nit Batman
 

Original min raiser and caller are both fish.
BB is MissedGOTTAbet who is playing around 16/12/2.5 and is decent winner


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($606.90)
CO ($339.32)
Button ($970)
Hero ($1032)
BB ($1136.75)
UTG ($458.54)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif. Hero posts a blind of $5.
UTG raises to $20</font>, MP calls $20,2 folds</font>, Hero (poster) raises to $106</font>, BB calls $101, UTG folds, MP folds.

Flop: ($262) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB bets $200</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $462

Re: 5-10 NL- Holy Nit Batman
 

Ya I hate this spot folding can't be too bad.

Re: 5-10 NL- Holy Nit Batman
 

Looks very good to me. I can't imagine you being ahead of anything.

Re: 5-10 NL- Holy Nit Batman
 

ok ,
he cant have aces/kings
so what is he coldcalling with IP? AK QQ JJ ?
any smaller PP cause he thinks he got enough implied?
is this to unlikely with this kind of stats?

i do bet/fold here

Re: 5-10 NL- Holy Nit Batman
 

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ok ,
he cant have aces/kings
so what is he coldcalling with IP? AK QQ JJ ?
any smaller PP cause he thinks he got enough implied?
is this to unlikely with this kind of stats?

i do bet/fold here

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I think AA and KK are a huge part of his range here.

Re: 5-10 NL- Holy Nit Batman
 

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ok ,
he cant have aces/kings


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O RLY?
Also what it he betting on the flop that is behind QQ
22-77, 1010, AK??

Re: 5-10 NL- Holy Nit Batman
 

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ok ,
he cant have aces/kings

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def wrong

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so what is he coldcalling with IP? AK QQ JJ ?

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maybe, although at 16/12 i would imagine AK and JJ have a good chance of being folds here. with AK being more of a chance than JJ

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any smaller PP cause he thinks he got enough implied?

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obv not



good hand OP

Re: 5-10 NL- Holy Nit Batman
 

wow... i would defenitly bet this...

Re: 5-10 NL- Holy Nit Batman
 

hm u wouldnt expect him to reraise aces/kings
with the UTG and MP behind him ?

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hm u wouldnt expect him to reraise aces/kings
with the UTG and MP behind him ?

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I think it's more like I wouldn't expect him to call with less then 88 or AK. Actually I might even be ahead of his reraising range more then his calling range.

Re: 5-10 NL- Holy Nit Batman
 

i like it. almost everything you beat preflop hit the flop except AK which he might check or play differently preflop.

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hm u wouldnt expect him to reraise aces/kings
with the UTG and MP behind him ?

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Reraising aa/kk will cause everything to fold behind except maybe qq. Which I guess is why reraising air here maybe a good play.

Re: 5-10 NL- Holy Nit Batman
 

I'd like to see you lead out on that flop, and then knuckle under to any pressure. While I agree that AA and KK are in his range, I bet AK, QQ, JJ, and maybe even TT are, too. You could easily get a fold out of AK, QQ, and possibly even KK if he has put you specifically on JJ-AA. And you might get a call from TT, thinking that he has 10 outs, where he really has only 6.

In any case, having checked on that flop, you look really weak. He could easily put you on AK and figures he is betting his TT for value.

Re: 5-10 NL- Holy Nit Batman
 

except for when he folds his TT preflop to an UTG raise, and UTG+1 call, and a 3bet out of the blinds.

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except for when he folds his TT preflop to an UTG raise, and UTG+1 call, and a 3bet out of the blinds.

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Well, yeah. I did say I didn't really expect him to have TT, but I wouldn't completely discount it, either. I am prepared, given how tight the villain is, to discount 99 or lower, for exactly the reason you describe.

You didn't respond to my suggestion to lead out on the turn. Even if you put him on JJ+ and AKs, I think he folds QQ, KK, AK, and you're only in trouble against JJ and AA. Plus, hero has 6 outs against either of them. Not something to be wildly happy about putting money behind, but still something.

Re: 5-10 NL- Holy Nit Batman
 

i miss being wildly happy

Re: 5-10 NL- Holy Nit Batman
 

tough, but good fold. id say he has jj or kk. everything else seems likely to be out of his range, esp coming from BB with his stats, and not knowing what the action behind him will be preflop.

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i miss being wildly happy

[/ QUOTE ]lol! Yeah, me too. But it isn't that often that you flop quads and there is a bet and a raise to you. In the meantime, you have to play the odds, and sometimes find out that you're behind. Hopefully, you'll at least have a few outs when you do.