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DogWatch 10-15-2006 03:07 PM

New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabber
 
The waiting is over! You will finally get HHF for Bodog.

Ever played poker on Bodog.com and realizes the enormous amounts of juicy fishs? But you had a lack of information?

Now you can datamine Bodog.

We are officially starting the free Beta test for DogWatch Handgrabber.
Download it from our website and feel free to try out.

The Bodog hand history files which are generated are compatible with PokerTracker.

Other Features:

» Get data while playing and/or observing.
<ul type="square"> No matter if you are actively playing at a table or just observing one. You get the hand information![/list]
» Automated Table Recognition.
<ul type="square">Just open a table. DogWatch Handgrabber cares about the rest.[/list]
» Low CPU Usage.
<ul type="square">Want to work while you mine? No problem. DogWatch Handgrabber uses a minimum (almost nothing) of your CPU.[/list]
» Multi table hand grabbing.
<ul type="square">Grab up to three tables (limitation by Bodog) simultanously.[/list]
» Tables can be minimized. <ul type="square">Got something better to do than watching the tables play? Just minimize the Bodog tables and DogWatch Handgrabber. It doesn't matter. The grabbing continuous.[/list]
» Ring game support for Texas Hold'Em games.

<ul type="square">At the moment DogWatch Handgrabber supports Texas Hold'em Ring Games.[/list]
Feel free to email us at dwdesk[at]gmail.com, send us a PM or just use this thread for your

thoughts, found bugs and suggestions for additional features.

Everything else you need to know can be found on the DogWatch website

TheScientist 10-15-2006 03:24 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
I probably shouldnt have been the first guinea pig, but oh well. I can't get it to work at all, the tables arent being recognized, and no hands are being recorded. Do any particular gameplay settings have to be enabled for this to work?

DogWatch 10-15-2006 03:31 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
Thank you for being interest in our software.

The Beta has limited table recognition to the following tables:

» No Limit tables not enabled.
» Pot Limit tables allowed up to 10$ max only.
» Fixed Limit tables allowed $0.05/$0.10 only.
» No restrictions for play money tables.

Please refer to the
Manual / Installation Guide for setting up DogWatch Handgrabber correctly.

Nancy S 10-15-2006 03:36 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabber
 
Are you asking Poker Tracker and Poker Ace HUD to add Bodog support?

Nancy

DogWatch 10-15-2006 03:41 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
Hi Nancy,

the generated hhf will be compatible with Poker Tracker as Beta test is finished. There will be no problems anymore for PT to import them correctly.

We will ask Poker Ace HUD about Bodog support.

TheScientist 10-15-2006 04:03 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
It's importing hands fine, but PT is having difficulty with them. Looks like some info is being written wrong in the HH. Where can I send the errors to?

DogWatch 10-15-2006 04:08 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
We expected that Poker Tracker would have some difficulties in this early stage. Trying to fix this is the highest priority at the moment.

As you will have noticed DogWatch Handgrabber generates files ending in .err. If you find files like this please email it to [email protected] or report it directly to our forum on our website.

If there are no .err files but Poker Tracker has difficulties mail us exact PT error together with the hand history files.

Kind regards,
DogWatch

PerDoom 10-15-2006 04:37 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
So it only works with extremely low microlimits (but not no limit) and we are supposed to trust some person with 4 posts?

Um, yeah.

SpadeJack 10-15-2006 04:58 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
It works with all Hold'em Tables (not tournaments) and if you visit the website, you'll know that we don't activate them in the beta release.

I don't have time to talk here in the forum a lot, while players are requesting a bodog grabber.

DogWatch 10-15-2006 05:14 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
Image we didn't cut it down to low limits and for example the program hangs up while you are a huge favorite in a large pot at the $1000 max NL and for some reasons bodog shuts down while you use our handgrabber. Wouldn't you blame it on us?

This never happened in our internal testings but while we can't be 100% bullet proof we don't want you to take that risk.

Best regards,
DogWatch

blainestar 10-15-2006 08:16 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
[ QUOTE ]

» No Limit tables not enabled.
[ QUOTE ]


umm whast the point then, i guess all the hardcore dataminers of the $10 max tables hit the jackpot here. anyone verify that this is safe???

Hoopster81 10-15-2006 10:32 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
[ QUOTE ]
Image we didn't cut it down to low limits and for example the program hangs up while you are a huge favorite in a large pot at the $1000 max NL and for some reasons bodog shuts down while you use our handgrabber. Wouldn't you blame it on us?

This never happened in our internal testings but while we can't be 100% bullet proof we don't want you to take that risk.

Best regards,
DogWatch

[/ QUOTE ]

People know there are risks

teddyFBI 10-15-2006 11:26 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
A few Q's:

How are you collecting the data? Screenscraping? Or grabbing from Bodog's memory? or something else?

You say that PT can read them...but what site does PT think they are coming from? e.g. PT doesn't support Bodog, so u must be making them look like HHs from another site...which one? Party? Stars? What?

TheScientist 10-16-2006 12:02 AM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
It appears to be grabbing from the dealer actions in the text box, though it works when the screens are covered/minimized, so I would guess it's grabbing memory packets.
So far my PT labels them as party, which poses no obstacle for me, though it might be bothersome to some non-American players.

goodguy_1 10-16-2006 06:45 AM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
being able to only datamine 3 tables max. at a time is a joke really [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

firefarter 10-16-2006 08:03 AM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
Hi,

at Bodog you are only able to play at 3 tables as far as I know.

So it seems that the OP's softare has nothing to do with that.

Nancy S 10-16-2006 09:01 AM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
I just imported over 1000 hands as if they were Party hands, no errors.

$10 max pot limit tables (not what I would play).

Do you only want us to report errors during the beta test?

Also, do you intend to open up to more games before beta test is complete?

How about you fix your forum, contact, faq sections on your web page?

Nancy

teddyFBI 10-16-2006 09:56 AM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
Open up the higher tables.
It's only worth my time beta-testing this for you at the limits i actually play so i'm getting something for my time.

DogWatch 10-16-2006 10:10 AM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
That is a limitation by Bodog.

DogWatch 10-16-2006 10:27 AM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
Please check our site in the next hours for the new version. We will change the limitations.

DogWatch 10-16-2006 10:34 AM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
We are transforming the HHF to a Party Poker style. At the we are in contact with Poker Tracker and work something out so it is recognized as bodog in the near future.

DogWatch 10-16-2006 10:36 AM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
Good to hear you didn't have any errors. It seems we are on the right way :-) And it is right they are imported as Party Poker at the moment. We are discussing this issue with Poker Tracker at the moment.

While in Beta we would love to hear some feedback regarding other things from all of you, too.

Make sure you check our site in the next few hours hours as we will have a new version out that changes the limitations. Will be posted here, too.

APerfect10 10-16-2006 11:20 AM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
Curious as to why you want to use a "Party Poker" style?

PokerStars has a much cleaner and easier to manage format.

DogWatch 10-16-2006 01:33 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
We wanted to have a Poker Tracker compatible HHF style. Most of people prefered to play at Party Poker so we to take their format.

Harkey 10-16-2006 01:46 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
Dogwatch: since the Americans (and many of the non-American pros---the ones who will buy your software when it goes commercial) will be playing mainly on Pokerstars (and Full-Tilt), you might want to change your format to that of Pokerstars.

APerfect10 10-16-2006 02:48 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
Having experience with this, I can tell you that it will be much easier to program if you convert it to a PokerStars format since PS format is much cleaner. Party's HH format is just about as bad as their buggy software. I see absolutely no advantage in converting to a Party format, for you, PT, PAH, or your users.

ps. PokerStars is the #1 site now, who cares about Party.

Nancy S 10-16-2006 03:58 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
How about a AHK script to open tables and keep 'em open, so it's not a lot of work to do the datamining?

Nancy

DogWatch 10-16-2006 04:12 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
I am virtually finished with the code for writing it in Party Poker hhf format. But there is this one little sentence in APerfect10's post that made me change my mind:

[ QUOTE ]


ps. PokerStars is the #1 site now, who cares about Party.

[/ QUOTE ]

That let me see the questions about the format in the following light: "Party alienated us. Why do you want to remind us of that?" So I will rewrite the code and produce PokerStars hhf format.

This will have no effect on the Beta test! You can continue to test the software. There is also a new version available in the next few hours with all table limits enabled.

TheScientist 10-16-2006 04:40 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
I dont understand why anyone would want it in Stars format instead of Party Poker - now when the files are imported they're all going to be mixed in with my PokerStars hands and I wont be able to keep my stats separate between the two rooms. Party Poker is ideal now (for Americans at least) because we no longer play there.
Hopefully PT Pat will add a Bodog import so this will all become a moot point.

DogWatch 10-16-2006 05:15 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
We have thought about your idea. But we will implement that as an inbuilt DogWatch Handgrabber feature in a future release. Do have some special ideas how it should work in detail or other features you would like to see implemented?

IHateCats 10-16-2006 05:42 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
I'd like to second this, while there are certainly warts on the party hand history format, for right now segmentation has substantial value. Good to hear you are planning to activate higher limits, just put forth the usual beta dislcaimers and let people take their chances. Try to ignore all the naysayers, you're definitely doing something that will be welcomed by many in this forum.

DogWatch 10-16-2006 05:47 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
Don't worry. While we are in Beta there will be Party Poker hhf format. As soon as we release a Demo and a full version we will switch to PokerStars hhf style if Bodog has its own menue item in Poker Tracker. so there will be no problems with mixing data.

blainestar 10-16-2006 05:56 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
So can anyone with more than 8 posts registerred this month, that isn't completely computer illierate like myself, verify that this program is safe? I'm probably just being a nervous nelly but if it is legit I think this will be a sweet tool!

DogWatch 10-16-2006 06:07 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
[ QUOTE ]
can anyone with more than 8 posts [and excellent knowledge of computers] verify that this program is safe?

[/ QUOTE ]

If that someone needs additional information feel free to contact us via PM or mail to [email protected] .

Blainstar, you could perform a basic test on your own regarding if you worrying about a "phone home feature": download a personal firewall, install the software on a machine where no relevant data is on and see if it connects to the internet.

SpadeJack 10-16-2006 06:28 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
[ QUOTE ]
So can anyone with more than 8 posts registerred this month, that isn't completely computer illierate like myself, verify that this program is safe? I'm probably just being a nervous nelly but if it is legit I think this will be a sweet tool!

[/ QUOTE ]

Tell me about one public poker software which already caused problems related to your question. It's not spyware, no adware, not anything of them. It's only doing one thing: Mining Bodog.

If you are worry about internet data access, then install a firewall.

2easy 10-16-2006 06:30 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
spadejack,

are you a member of the dogwatch team?

SpadeJack 10-16-2006 06:50 PM

Re: New Software: BODOG Handgrabber released - the DogWatch Handgrabbe
 
Yes, I am a member of the DogWatch team.

DogWatch 10-16-2006 07:06 PM

NEW VERSION available: DogWatch Handgrabber 1.0.0.13b
 
DogWatch Handgrabber 1.0.0.13b is available now. You can download it on our website

You can now play on any ring game tables that you like to play. No limitations. Application exits after 15 minutes running and sometimes randomized.

Some minor bugfixing in the output of the hhfs.

Still limited to 3 tables (by Bodog itself).

teddyFBI 10-16-2006 07:36 PM

Re: NEW VERSION available: DogWatch Handgrabber 1.0.0.13b
 
why does it exit after 15 mins?

You're making this a pain to use. Get rid of all these sillya nnoyances. If the product is good, people will buy it.

udbrky 10-16-2006 07:39 PM

Re: NEW VERSION available: DogWatch Handgrabber 1.0.0.13b
 
I tried to unzip it, and it says that the file is broken.


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