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Zetack 10-13-2006 01:17 PM

Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
Man, I expected Stars to come through with flying colors, and benefit greatly from Party's inexplicable decision to drink the funny grape juice, but on Stars at this very minute there is not one single table of two cent/four cent fixed limit omaha high only going.

And if that's not evidence enough for you, there is also no table of 5 cent/10 cent omaha high only fixed limit running.

What a crock. Online poker is on its frugging death bed...

--Zetack

HSB 10-13-2006 01:20 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
Wait until this evening at least before hyperventilating will ya?

rocketeer 10-13-2006 01:22 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
Who gives a flying doodle about 5c-10c omaha?

Oh, wait... you're joking. heh heh.

Shoe 10-13-2006 01:22 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
Are Americans actually banned from Party already, or is that still just what they are planning to do?

If not, don't expect many to find their way to Stars until Party actually blocks access.

EDIT: Just saw the news. I'd imagine that the majority of players only play at 1 site, so it will take them some time to migrate over to the new sites as many of the players probably don't have spare money sitting at Stars and other sites like many of us do.

Also, some of the casual players will probably be turned off by this and just stop playing online altogether.

HSB 10-13-2006 01:25 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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Are Americans actually banned from Party already, or is that still just what they are planning to do?

If not, don't expect many to find their way to Stars until Party actually blocks access.

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It's done.

A lot of people are going to be surprised when they try to play poker tonight.

It will probably take what, a week or two to get going on Stars or Full Tilt?

Bubbles 10-13-2006 01:25 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
Shoe,

Americans are banned.

Shoe 10-13-2006 01:27 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
I would think atleast a week, depending on how fast the cashouts go.

Botchman 10-13-2006 01:29 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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Who gives a flying doodle about 5c-10c omaha?

Oh, wait... you're joking. heh heh.

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Andruin 10-13-2006 02:15 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
At this moment I see 46000 players at Stars and Party doesn't even display the players anylonger. At this point it would be normal for Stars to have 30k. Party now offers microlimit in NL and limit for all [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Guess they are very low on players at the moment.

Jorgo 10-13-2006 02:21 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
http://www.pokersitescout.com/

nice site that keeps track of # of real cash game players

crazy not to go to full tilt since u can get rakeback there but not at stars.

HSB 10-13-2006 02:22 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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http://www.pokersitescout.com/

nice site that keeps track of # of real cash game players

crazy not to go to full tilt since u can get rakeback there but not at stars.

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Tilt is up considerably compared to last week.

thedorf 10-13-2006 02:26 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
curious first post. why don't you stop insulting our intelligence and just blatantly promote your site without trying to pathetically disguise yourself as a 2p2er. you will actually get a lot more respect from us, seriously.

Fat City 10-13-2006 02:28 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
the tournament fields at Stars are going to be HUGE

thedorf 10-13-2006 02:30 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
i played every weekday at party around the time you posted this and would occasionally glance at the number of players. 46,000 seems about right for what party was pulling in on a friday around 2 p.m. ET they may have had a few more than this but so far i'm impressed with stars' number of players and game selection. they definitely have a ways to go though.

Tofu_boy 10-13-2006 02:30 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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Are Americans actually banned from Party already, or is that still just what they are planning to do?

If not, don't expect many to find their way to Stars until Party actually blocks access.

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It's done.

A lot of people are going to be surprised when they try to play poker tonight.

It will probably take what, a week or two to get going on Stars or Full Tilt?

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True!
alot of people don't know until today and all of their $$$ in PP right now. It'll take sometimes for them to cashout and most people will not know until tonight after they get off from work and try to spend couples of hrs from daily online games.
mostly new players come to stars and fulltilt right now are come from 2+2 which is not what I want to see.

Jorgo 10-13-2006 02:30 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
it actually isnt my site dude.

But i can see where you're coming from with your comment.

I'm sure the owner of the site has posted about it before, as it has been running since april by the looks of it.

i just thought it did have some relevance to this topic. Also thanks for the warm welcome.

Sciolist 10-13-2006 03:02 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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it actually isnt my site dude.

But i can see where you're coming from with your comment.

I'm sure the owner of the site has posted about it before, as it has been running since april by the looks of it.

i just thought it did have some relevance to this topic. Also thanks for the warm welcome.

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I think he might've been referring to FullTilt, rather than Poker Site Scout. Not that it makes much sense either way.

Sciolist 10-13-2006 03:05 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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At this moment I see 46000 players at Stars and Party doesn't even display the players anylonger. At this point it would be normal for Stars to have 30k. Party now offers microlimit in NL and limit for all [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Guess they are very low on players at the moment.

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To be honest, I have no idea what Stars're normally on at this time of day, and my graphs are at work. The support queue (Unassigned) is seriously long though, like twice as long as usual this time of day, in terms of volume & backlog, so I guess we've got a lot of new players... Time for overtime methinks!

Unabridged 10-13-2006 03:08 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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curious first post. why don't you stop insulting our intelligence and just blatantly promote your site without trying to pathetically disguise yourself as a 2p2er. you will actually get a lot more respect from us, seriously.

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1. thats not his site
2. pokersitescout has contirbuted way more to 2+2 than your stupid ass

Coy_Roy 10-13-2006 03:29 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
I play the 6-handed sit n go's on Stars and they are filling up much faster today. I like it.

emptyshell 10-13-2006 03:35 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
Actually looks like Party has a fair amount of players. I'm jealous, but I'm probably one of the few that think Scandinavians are the worst at poker.

Hock_ 10-13-2006 03:50 PM

Party is a ghost town right now . . .
 
give players a week to set up and fund new accounts. PStars and FullTilt will be picking up tons of new players.

TomBrooks 10-13-2006 07:23 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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on Stars at this very minute there is not one single table of two cent/four cent fixed limit omaha high only going. And if that's not evidence enough for you, there is also no table of 5 cent/10 cent omaha high only fixed limit running.

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Party didn't even spread those games as far as I know unless they had them in that Beginners Section. I tried to get in there once and I think they wouldn't let me as they had me classified as non-eligible for beginner status or something.

mbpoker 10-13-2006 08:14 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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crazy not to go to full tilt since u can get rakeback there but not at stars.


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Quite the opposite. On Stars you get rakeback directly without any affiliates.

nextgenneo 10-13-2006 08:26 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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crazy not to go to full tilt since u can get rakeback there but not at stars.


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Quite the opposite. On Stars you get rakeback directly without any affiliates.

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What is this RB u speak of? Fpp's arent rake back

Pokertini 10-13-2006 08:32 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
Stars is now leading the pack at PokerSiteScout.com

Artsemis 10-13-2006 08:43 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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crazy not to go to full tilt since u can get rakeback there but not at stars.


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Quite the opposite. On Stars you get rakeback directly without any affiliates.

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What is this RB u speak of? Fpp's arent rake back

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Less rake taken in the first place is.

Shoe 10-14-2006 12:43 AM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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crazy not to go to full tilt since u can get rakeback there but not at stars.


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Quite the opposite. On Stars you get rakeback directly without any affiliates.

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What is this RB u speak of? Fpp's arent rake back

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Less rake taken in the first place is.

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And the FPP's are basically rakeback, or if you are lazy your can turn in your FPP's for a little bit less cash directly now. I always find it funny how people only look at their rakeback %, but do not consider the amount of rake being taken or other benefits.

HSB 10-14-2006 01:01 AM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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crazy not to go to full tilt since u can get rakeback there but not at stars.


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Quite the opposite. On Stars you get rakeback directly without any affiliates.

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What is this RB u speak of? Fpp's arent rake back

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Less rake taken in the first place is.

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Not at no limit.

PokerParrot 10-14-2006 01:03 AM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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Less rake taken in the first place is.

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Huh? Since when does PokerStars have lower rake than Full Tilt?

Petomane 10-14-2006 01:16 AM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
And they won't.

Full Tilt is offering $600 100% initial bonus, Ultimate Bet $650 and Poker Stars $50. PokerStars just doesn't get it.

None of these sites LOSE money on bonuses. If PokerStars doesn't take advantage of a golden opportunity now, then when?

On the other hand, maybe fish don't know from bonuses...

Jurollo 10-14-2006 02:11 AM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
Just for reference, the $150 nightly on Stars only gets like 375-400 usually on Fridays (600+ other nights) and was over 500 tonight. Good sign.
~J

Greg Miller 10-14-2006 02:58 AM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
I think FT and UB are counting on the fact that fish don't know anything about bonuses. Otherwise, the fish'll do the smart thing and pass over the lousy bonuses at those sites.

FT and UB have good software, but the rakeback and lousy bonuses just don't make up for the rockish games. I applaud Stars for spending their marketing budget on things that don't ruin the games.

mbpoker 10-14-2006 03:23 AM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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What is this RB u speak of? Fpp's arent rake back

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FPPs that you can convert to money is rb. $1500 for 100,000 FPP if you are supernova.

http://www.pokerstars.com/fpp/store/...l/vip-bonus-1/

blackjack777 10-14-2006 03:25 AM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
Man, why is everyone so mean to the newbies?

mmbt0ne 10-14-2006 03:44 AM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
http://www.f2f2s.com/images/2plus2/sitetraffic1.jpg

tagtastic 10-14-2006 03:51 AM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
Post this graph again in 3 weeks. Then I'll be very interested. Now the result is fairly meaningless, just alot of people logging on the Party and pissed off they can't play.

soah 10-14-2006 04:37 AM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
I really expected a LOT more people on Stars tonight, and it just did not happen at all.

benfranklin 10-14-2006 11:41 AM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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curious first post. why don't you stop insulting our intelligence and just blatantly promote your site without trying to pathetically disguise yourself as a 2p2er. you will actually get a lot more respect from us, seriously.

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The guy that runs pokersitescout.com posts here under the name The_Scout.

Mike Jett 10-14-2006 04:55 PM

Re: Stars is not reaping the benefit of Party\'s exit.
 
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curious first post. why don't you stop insulting our intelligence and just blatantly promote your site without trying to pathetically disguise yourself as a 2p2er. you will actually get a lot more respect from us, seriously.

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Wouldnt really matter, even if it was his.

That's a useful site, and isnt selling me anything.


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