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ActionBob 10-07-2006 10:44 AM

Article by Bill Frist
 
Not sure if this has been posted.

Frist Article

-ActionBob

yad 10-07-2006 10:48 AM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
his interpretation of what the law says is actually one of the more favorable ones for us.

jimmytrick 10-07-2006 10:52 AM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
This hurts families...

I could really lose it with this guy.

dankhank 10-07-2006 10:52 AM

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that article makes me feel better

MiJ305 10-07-2006 10:58 AM

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This hurts families...

I could really lose it with this guy.

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i wonder if people in the red states actually fall for this BS//

Uglyowl 10-07-2006 10:59 AM

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I didn't think I could hate him anymore!

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Rigorous state enforcement means that brick and mortar casinos make a good faith effort to keep minors away from gambling.

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Guess he hasn't been to a casino or horsetrack in awhile, or had his children buy lottery tickets. This guy is so out of reality it isn't funny.

Lawman007 10-07-2006 11:00 AM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
This sentence at the beginning of the article almost seems like he's trying to defend what he has done:

"The new law passed because members of the pro-family movement -- including a great many Southern Baptists -- brought the issue to the attention of both Democrats and Republicans."

If he wasn't being defensive and trying to justify the stunt that he pulled, why would he give the Democrats any credit for it? I may be reading too much into it, though. He seems to be preaching to the choir on that website.......literally. LOL

Right5 10-07-2006 11:11 AM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
So basically no Bank transfers (IGM) directly to sites, but netteller is still ok? I still dont' understand why party is shutting down

Uglyowl 10-07-2006 11:14 AM

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Time for the Union and the Confederate states again. These religious zealots are going to do much more harm than good.

As we have seen over the past 5 year, Religion Can Be Dangerous

AndyH69 10-07-2006 11:21 AM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
In his last paragaph he seems quite happy with the fact that he has already destroyed the lives of many private investors in the shares of online gambling companies. I know of a few who have suffered losses that will affect them for the rest of their lives. Likewise many pension funds have been very badly hit.

What's more dangerous? Allowing many millions of Americans to enjoy a game of online poker? Or allowing people like Frist to take a role in government and pass laws?

Chesters Dad 10-07-2006 11:25 AM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
My response is: Religion is bad for families. Family members spend countless hours praying, which has no impact on anything, when they could be spending time with their families. Who can tell me the exact odds of a certain prayer being answered? No one. But who can tell me the exact odds of me hitting my nut flush on the river? Everyone on this forum.

In addition, more money has been poured into religion then ever will be lost or won playing poker. For what? To fuel intolerance, highlight our differences and buy land.

No one is making an argument to ban religion, because we allegedly have a free country. But since when is it the role of law to preserve or protect families?

I just woke up and had to rant after reading this, sorry it's OT.

epee_master 10-07-2006 11:29 AM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
"The government also will be able to ensure that website operators don’t provide links to gambling websites" how do they expect to enforce this? this isn't communist china (yet)

tinhat 10-07-2006 11:36 AM

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This sentence at the beginning of the article almost seems like he's trying to defend what he has done:

"The new law passed because members of the pro-family movement -- including a great many Southern Baptists -- brought the issue to the attention of both Democrats and Republicans."

If he wasn't being defensive and trying to justify the stunt that he pulled, why would he give the Democrats any credit for it? I may be reading too much into it, though. He seems to be preaching to the choir on that website.......literally. LOL

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Considering its huge margin in the House, plus the fact that Frist's actions give the appearance of trying to sneak this through, he can't really use this for his advantage anyway - it was either "wildly popular with the entire Congress" or "we couldn't get it through without attaching it to unrelated legislation." What kind of a campaign ad do you make out of that?

Well before this I would've said Frist had a snowball's chance at the nomination any way; I can't think of a more uninspiring or uncharasmatic politician than Bill Frist.

So U.S. online poker players pay for a political advantage an un-nominatable guy can't use; perfect.

MrBrightside 10-07-2006 11:40 AM

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My response is: Religion is bad for families. Family members spend countless hours praying, which has no impact on anything, when they could be spending time with their families. Who can tell me the exact odds of a certain prayer being answered? No one. But who can tell me the exact odds of me hitting my nut flush on the river? Everyone on this forum.

In addition, more money has been poured into religion then ever will be lost or won playing poker. For what? To fuel intolerance, highlight our differences and buy land.

No one is making an argument to ban religion, because we allegedly have a free country. But since when is it the role of law to preserve or protect families?

I just woke up and had to rant after reading this, sorry it's OT.

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don't apologize. It's brilliant

ACPlayer 10-07-2006 11:46 AM

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Not sure if this has been posted.

Frist Article

-ActionBob

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Anyone still think this is not about pandering to the Christians Fundamentalists. Check out the nature and audience for Frist's words at the site. Southern Baptists from the heart of the bible belt.

Jerry D 10-07-2006 11:56 AM

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Have any of you actually visited the LEGAL US BASED HORSE RACING WEBSITES that Bill Frist and his republican crowd has said is just fine to wager on? I have zero interest in betting on horses because you can't win in the long run but I was very curious about them, so I searched some of them out and what I found made me so mad I could scream!! If you go to the horse racing websites (like youbet.com - I'm not spamming them - DON'T BET ON HORSES YOU WILL LOSE) and check them out on the first page they say in big letters "US BASED AND LICENSED" Damn it all to hell how in the hell can you have a LEGAL US BASED WEBSITE where you can bet thousands and thousands all day and night on horses running around in a circle BUT you can't play poker or play a freaking $5 sit and go! This is so crazy and makes me so mad! I just hope that the WTO or someone with some power will point out the pure insanity of the US gaming stance! I am sorry for the vent but when I went to those horse racing sites and saw how they boldy proclaimed how they were U.S. based and licensed I just couldn't help but think how great it would be to have a us based and licensed poker or gaming site too. Damn it....

If any of you visit these damn US based horse racing sites and check them out I bet it will make you mad as well. Damn.

(P.S. Don't bet on horses! At least until we can play poker too damnit!)

tqo123 10-07-2006 12:04 PM

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My response is: Religion is bad for families. Family members spend countless hours praying, which has no impact on anything, when they could be spending time with their families. Who can tell me the exact odds of a certain prayer being answered? No one. But who can tell me the exact odds of me hitting my nut flush on the river? Everyone on this forum.

In addition, more money has been poured into religion then ever will be lost or won playing poker. For what? To fuel intolerance, highlight our differences and buy land.

No one is making an argument to ban religion, because we allegedly have a free country. But since when is it the role of law to preserve or protect families?

I just woke up and had to rant after reading this, sorry it's OT.

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Chester should be proud of you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Religion is a tool in the hands of some, and serious disease of many.

bkfizz02 10-07-2006 12:06 PM

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Dear Bill Frist,
I don't have a family [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
May I please play online poker until I get one? Pretty Please?
Regards,
Not a Family Man

Jerry D 10-07-2006 12:16 PM

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Dear Bill Frist,
I don't have a family [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
May I please play online poker until I get one? Pretty Please?
Regards,
Not a Family Man

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No. You can't play poker. But you can bet thousands and thousands and thousands on HORSES all day and night to your heart's content.

Uglyowl 10-07-2006 12:17 PM

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Dear Bill Frist,
I don't have a family [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
May I please play online poker until I get one? Pretty Please?
Regards,
Not a Family Man

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I have a family, but would rather stay home with them and gamble than spend all day at Foxwoods away from them.

PairTheBoard 10-07-2006 12:25 PM

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"The government also will be able to ensure that website operators don’t provide links to gambling websites" how do they expect to enforce this? this isn't communist china (yet)

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The meaning of the bill's language on this issue has been a major point of disagreement among analysts of the bill. So this statement by Frist is very important imo. It shows the Intent of the drafters of the Bill. While such Intent does not dictate a Court's interpretation of the Bill's language, it does indicate the Regulations likely to be enforced - or attempted to be enforced.

PairTheBoard

EMc 10-07-2006 12:27 PM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
Nothing like the Southern Baptist press.

This article is well written and is good at slanting things to his favor.

OTOH, I find the last paragraph terrible. Bragging about a company losing 50% of its worth? If the WTO gets a sniff of that and doesnt have a shitfit, I will be shocked. What about all the families invested in party gaming as their nest egg? They may be 'another country', but its pretty much like laughing at your brother getting this hours slashed at work.

Acein8ter 10-07-2006 12:34 PM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
Bill Frist is so righteous and ethical...

Apparently, he had the following allegations against him:
Conflict of interest
Medicare Investigation
Insider trading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Frist

checkmate36 10-07-2006 12:40 PM

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Bill Frist is so righteous and ethical...

Apparently, he had the following allegations against him:
Conflict of interest
Medicare Investigation
Insider trading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Frist

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My friend (republican) was elected treasurer for a small city in upstate NY and he said the conservatives were the biggest crooks of them all.

TheNoodleMan 10-07-2006 12:41 PM

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In a 1989 autobiography, Frist described how he "spent days and nights on end in the lab, taking the hearts out of cats,<font color="red"> sexually molesting them,</font> then dissecting each heart."

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I have to assume one of you did this, so please step forward and reveal yourself.

Miamipuck 10-07-2006 12:43 PM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
LOL, great article. He basically [censored] all the millions of poker players and gamblers to look good for the religous right. He basically says so right here. Awesome, totally awesome. normally after reading that I would like to throw up. This just made me chuckle. One person can basically scold all of us consenting adults........... Father frist. lol

Maybe someday we can get a leader of congress that is a gambling, party animal that can ram through his legislation for us normal fun loving people when he decides to run for the presidency........ Then he can write an article in Cardplayer......... It was brought to my attention Americans are not allowed to have fun any longer.

checkmate36 10-07-2006 12:50 PM

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LOL, great article. He basically [censored] all the millions of poker players and gamblers to look good for the religous right. He basically says so right here. Awesome, totally awesome. normally after reading that I would like to throw up. This just made me chuckle. One person can basically scold all of us consenting adults........... Father frist. lol

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Ashcroft is another one. He stays awake at nights because he knows that someone, somewhere, is having fun and he can't stop it.

Shrug 10-07-2006 12:54 PM

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"In fact, online casino websites have the potential to turn every personal computer in the country into a miniature version of the Las Vegas Strip."

No hookers or blow on my puter. What a liar.

schwza 10-07-2006 12:58 PM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
i thought the article was actually surprisingly well-written, for the most part. if he had written an identical article about a bill that did not include poker (and did include horse racing and online lotteries) i would mostly agree with it. i'm all for personal freedom, but as a country i don't think we need a lot of people dumping money overseas playing online roulette. flame away.

George Rice 10-07-2006 12:59 PM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
Why didn't he submit a law to make it illegal for Southern Babtists to gamble and leave the rest of us alone.

Colonel Kataffy 10-07-2006 01:02 PM

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This hurts families...

I could really lose it with this guy.

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i wonder if people in the red states actually fall for this BS//

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uhh...they wouldn't be red if they didn't

malo 10-07-2006 01:15 PM

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LOL, great article. He basically [censored] all the millions of poker players and gamblers to look good for the religous right. He basically says so right here. Awesome, totally awesome. normally after reading that I would like to throw up. This just made me chuckle. One person can basically scold all of us consenting adults........... Father frist. lol

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Ashcroft is another one. He stays awake at nights because he knows that someone, somewhere, is having fun and he can't stop it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Boy, ain't that the truth! The guy who wanted the partially nude statues in the Great Hall of the Justice Department concealed with drapes. Thankfully, he is no longer AG....enforcing the new Igaming legislation would make him waaayy too happy.

The worst part is he is from the city where I live (and no, I never voted for him for anything. Guess I can take some satisfaction from that.)

tpir 10-07-2006 01:18 PM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
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My response is: Religion is bad for families. Family members spend countless hours praying, which has no impact on anything, when they could be spending time with their families. Who can tell me the exact odds of a certain prayer being answered? No one. But who can tell me the exact odds of me hitting my nut flush on the river? Everyone on this forum.

In addition, more money has been poured into religion then ever will be lost or won playing poker. For what? To fuel intolerance, highlight our differences and buy land.

No one is making an argument to ban religion, because we allegedly have a free country. But since when is it the role of law to preserve or protect families?

I just woke up and had to rant after reading this, sorry it's OT.

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vn.

disjunction 10-07-2006 01:19 PM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
From the article:

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Some of you may know I am running for President in 2008. In lieu of campaign donations, please send me your cat. Our campaign can make special use of felines



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Did anyone else think this was over the top?

augie_ 10-07-2006 01:25 PM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
Mother [censored] piece of [censored]. I [censored] hate this guy. Christ. Democracy, my ass. Online gambling is wrong because a bunch of bible thumping [censored] from Tennessee say it is? [censored]. I'm going to explode with anger. I hate America. Is Holland really closing it's borders?

Little_Luck 10-07-2006 01:28 PM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
Our problem is we haven't clearly identified republicans' weaknesses and exploited them.

All of us are writing our reps and senators as adult males. They don't care about adult males, they don't want pictures of us, we can't influence them. What we need to start doing is pose as underage boys who think being able to gamble online is a turn-on. Possibly, we can get dateline involved. I put the o/u at 6 republicans.

"Hello Senator Frist, I am Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC, go ahead and have a seat over there..."

whodatdare 10-07-2006 01:30 PM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
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My response is: Religion is bad for families. Family members spend countless hours praying, which has no impact on anything, when they could be spending time with their families. Who can tell me the exact odds of a certain prayer being answered? No one. But who can tell me the exact odds of me hitting my nut flush on the river? Everyone on this forum.

In addition, more money has been poured into religion then ever will be lost or won playing poker. For what? To fuel intolerance, highlight our differences and buy land.

No one is making an argument to ban religion, because we allegedly have a free country. But since when is it the role of law to preserve or protect families?

I just woke up and had to rant after reading this, sorry it's OT.

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don't apologize. It's brilliant

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Even Mr. Conservative himself, Barry Goldwater, said the Religious Right has NO place in politics.

whodatdare 10-07-2006 01:35 PM

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LOL, great article. He basically [censored] all the millions of poker players and gamblers to look good for the religous right. He basically says so right here. Awesome, totally awesome. normally after reading that I would like to throw up. This just made me chuckle. One person can basically scold all of us consenting adults........... Father frist. lol

[/ QUOTE ]

Ashcroft is another one. He stays awake at nights because he knows that someone, somewhere, is having fun and he can't stop it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Boy, ain't that the truth! The guy who wanted the partially nude statues in the Great Hall of the Justice Department concealed with drapes. Thankfully, he is no longer AG....enforcing the new Igaming legislation would make him waaayy too happy.

The worst part is he is from the city where I live (and no, I never voted for him for anything. Guess I can take some satisfaction from that.)

[/ QUOTE ]


I still chuckle knowing Ashcroft lost a Senate election to a dead guy.

MrBrightside 10-07-2006 01:39 PM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
[ QUOTE ]
LOL, great article. He basically [censored] all the millions of poker players and gamblers to look good for the religous right. He basically says so right here. Awesome, totally awesome. normally after reading that I would like to throw up. This just made me chuckle. One person can basically scold all of us consenting adults........... Father frist. lol

Maybe someday we can get a leader of congress that is a gambling, party animal that can ram through his legislation for us normal fun loving people when he decides to run for the presidency........ Then he can write an article in Cardplayer......... It was brought to my attention Americans are not allowed to have fun any longer.

[/ QUOTE ]

we had a normal guy who was president, name of Bill Clinton. They thrashed him good.

Chesters Dad 10-07-2006 01:49 PM

Re: Article by Bill Frist
 
When anyone mentions Ashcroft, this is almost all I can think of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riKGGWFqnH8


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