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BufordD 10-04-2006 06:24 PM

Where to play now?
 
When Party disconnects the US, and if Stars follows suit, what sites do ya'll think will be the best?

Paradise is one of the biggest remaining, and World Sports Exchange has eliminated the rake, which is very interesting, although I hear they have some software issues that they are working on.

Nate tha\\\' Great 10-04-2006 06:36 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
[ QUOTE ]
When Party disconnects the US, and if Stars follows suit, what sites do ya'll think will be the best?

Paradise is one of the biggest remaining, and World Sports Exchange has eliminated the rake, which is very interesting, although I hear they have some software issues that they are working on.

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In declining order of size:

1. Party -- OUT
2. PokerStars -- undecided
3. Pokerroom -- undecided
4. Full Tilt -- IN
5. Paradise -- undecided, seems leaning toward IN
6. Crpyto -- OUT
7. Everest -- OUT (predates legislation)
8. iPoker -- looks OUT, but may depend on skin
9. Bodog -- IN
10. Pacific -- OUT
11. Tribeca -- undecided
12. Ultimate Bet -- IN
13. Boss Media -- OUT
14. Prima -- undecided, may depend on skin
15. Ladbrokes -- OUT (predates legislation
16. Absolute -- IN
17. Tain -- no idea
18. B2B -- no idea
19. WSEX -- IN

kabouter 10-04-2006 06:41 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
WSEX isn't actually making money with their pokersite right? So I see no problem with that site anyway

Jack Bando 10-04-2006 06:46 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
[ QUOTE ]
WSEX isn't actually making money with their pokersite right? So I see no problem with that site anyway

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Are their tourneys fee free?

And IIRC, they give the rake back at the end of the month, so they might invest the rake during that time period.

Josh. 10-04-2006 06:47 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
stars' decision is going to be HUGE in terms of game selection, and more specifically getting americans to be willing to take what they may perceive as a risk in depositing. they're big enough of a name that people will be more willing to trust them

if stars backs out, then i think full tilt is in best position to become THE site to play on. they already have a pretty decent player base and having done a fantastic job marketing, so i think people will be more willing to play there than other sites.

i think it's important for a new consensus #1 site to be around. the player pool for online poker in US-allowing sites will be a good amount smaller than a month ago, so naturally the games will be fewer and worse. but it will not be as bad if most of the action is concentrated on one site, as opposed to being dispersed between many of the smaller sites.

BufordD 10-04-2006 06:49 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
Well, I don't see how they can make money with no rake. It is probably a promotion to draw players to their sportsbook.

Jeffage 10-04-2006 06:49 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
Everything is rake free - they pay the players back every Monday. Also, they make money off their sports book/casino.

Jeff

redbeard 10-04-2006 06:52 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
i agree josh. if one site emerges as the leader and almost all u.s. traffic goes through that site and there are reliable, well known ways of getting funds to and from that site, then i'd say when the dust settles we may find that the game selection is actually as good or better than it was prior to the legislation. but that is a lot of wishful thinking too.

crubfrush 10-04-2006 06:56 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
[ QUOTE ]

In declining order of size:

1. Party -- OUT
2. PokerStars -- undecided
3. Pokerroom -- undecided
4. Full Tilt -- IN
5. Paradise -- undecided, seems leaning toward IN
6. Crpyto -- OUT
7. Everest -- OUT (predates legislation)
8. iPoker -- looks OUT, but may depend on skin
9. Bodog -- IN
10. Pacific -- OUT
11. Tribeca -- undecided
12. Ultimate Bet -- IN
13. Boss Media -- OUT
14. Prima -- undecided, may depend on skin
15. Ladbrokes -- OUT (predates legislation
16. Absolute -- IN
17. Tain -- no idea
18. B2B -- no idea
19. WSEX -- IN

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Mods, please sticky.

daedalus 10-04-2006 07:02 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
yes please sticky. This scorecard is needed by all.

Ace upmy Slv 10-04-2006 07:21 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
Since Full Tilt is in, I assume US players will have no problems opening up new accounts? I also assume they take Neteller deposits? Can anyone also lead me in the right direction for taking advantage of the best new player 'advantages' through Fult Tilt?

Thanks

Josh. 10-04-2006 07:23 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

In declining order of size:

1. Party -- OUT
2. PokerStars -- undecided
3. Pokerroom -- undecided
4. Full Tilt -- IN
5. Paradise -- undecided, seems leaning toward IN
6. Crpyto -- OUT
7. Everest -- OUT (predates legislation)
8. iPoker -- looks OUT, but may depend on skin
9. Bodog -- IN
10. Pacific -- OUT
11. Tribeca -- undecided
12. Ultimate Bet -- IN
13. Boss Media -- OUT
14. Prima -- undecided, may depend on skin
15. Ladbrokes -- OUT (predates legislation
16. Absolute -- IN
17. Tain -- no idea
18. B2B -- no idea
19. WSEX -- IN

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Mods, please sticky.

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just throw True Poker on first. also planet poker and poker.com are in but not sure if they're on networks.

Josh. 10-04-2006 07:25 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Since Full Tilt is in, I assume US players will have no problems opening up new accounts? I also assume they take Neteller deposits? Can anyone also lead me in the right direction for taking advantage of the best new player 'advantages' through Fult Tilt?


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yeah, letting people sign up new accounts is not a crime. if you can deposit there, you'll likely be able to do whatever you could've done a month ago

excession 10-04-2006 07:27 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
B2B has been out for US players for some time yes?

excession 10-04-2006 07:28 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
Interest on rolls and rake for a few days..

5thStreetHog 10-04-2006 08:25 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
[quot
B2B has been out for US players for some time yes? e]

[/ QUOTE ] Yes ,pretty sure it was a network decision,and that every B2B site has been closed for weeks now.At least the half dozen or so i have accounts on have been.They were way ahead of the curve for jumping ship.

gila 10-04-2006 08:36 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
Wow, bodog has really climbed that list, I had no idea they were bigger than UB and Absolute.

beachbum 10-04-2006 09:32 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
Yeah, UB has really underperformed over the last couple years. A huge reason is that they don't have the term "poker" in their name.

samoleus 10-04-2006 09:48 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
based on my personal conversations with representatives of Full Tilt, Bodog, and Ultimate Bet, I would recommend Ultimate Bet. They have been around since 2001, they are based on an Indian reservation in Canada (and thus have very little concern for US legislation), and they keep all their player accounts in a segregated account at the Royal Bank of Scotland.

I personally cashed out of Party and opened an account with UB yesterday.

Kneel B4 Zod 10-04-2006 09:51 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yeah, UB has really underperformed over the last couple years. A huge reason is that they don't have the term "poker" in their name.

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neither does Full Tilt (really), which has been the fasting growing poker room in the last 2 years

tangled 10-04-2006 10:49 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
WSEX doesnt charge rake and its great. By far the best bonus system out there. You never have to worry about qualifying for it or working it off and you get more in rake back than any bonus I have seen.

There is nothing wrong with the software, it just isnt as nice as most other sites.

They claim that they can go rake free because that pulls action into their casino. Other posters have said they make money off the interest on the rake that they give back to you, until they give it back to you. I dont know.

the main problem with site for me is that the players are above average. So stay away 2+2ers. lol.

I love this site.

Kneel B4 Zod 10-04-2006 11:38 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
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WSEX doesnt charge rake and its great. By far the best bonus system out there. You never have to worry about qualifying for it or working it off and you get more in rake back than any bonus I have seen.

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then you're dumb or ignorant

kevJ 10-04-2006 11:41 PM

Re: Where to play now?
 
what about doyles room? in or out


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