The average weight of men
 

Me and my friend had an argument about this and i would love to hear some educated guess what would be the average weight of all males over 15 years in the world.

Thanks guys,


Saku

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The average weight of 3+ billion men with varying body forms and nutrition levels?

120-140 pounds (55-65 kilos) probably.

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For the USA there are sites that put the average for men in the high 170s, even pushing into the low 180s.

Of course most other countries will have lower weights. Still, I would guess the worldwide average will be closer to 160.

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The average weight of 3+ billion men with varying body forms and nutrition levels?

120-140 pounds (55-65 kilos) probably.

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WTF.

There is no way the average is even close to 120. Maybe in hunger ravaged Africa.

In North America, I'd say 175 lbs. World? I guess there are a lot of Asians. Maybe closer to 160. But that number is viciously skewed by the Asian population.

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"15 years old and up"

That's a hell of a lot of 98 pound "weaklings" on the early end of that scale AND the late end of that scale. Less than 98, actually, if you account for Asian and African males.

If OP had asked for the "average weight of the average Terran male"?

I'd probably have suggested something like 150-160.

Edit: Population growth also accounts for the imbalance of the age distribution across the scale.

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But that number is viciously skewed by the Asian population.

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I thought the viciousness of the skew would be by, the mostly obese, americans!

I am certain that MaximusFortuna is much closer to the fact. He may be more travelled or more aware of the world around him than you are. He surely displays less insularity and chauvinism.

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If you go into a grade ten classroom, I don't know how many 98 pound weaklings you are going to find, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be between very few and none.

I passed 100 lbs when I was 10 years old, and I'm stick thin. I'm tall, but still, 100 lbs is nothing.

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But that number is viciously skewed by the Asian population.

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I thought the viciousness of the skew would be by, the mostly obese, americans!

I am certain that MaximusFortuna is much closer to the fact. He may be more travelled or more aware of the world around him than you are. He surely displays less insularity and chauvinism.

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FYI, I'm not American.

Sorry I'm not from the worldly all-tolerant prison colony of Australia.

And no, there are only ~300,000,000 Americans. The Asian population is an order higher. Hence the skew.

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How did he even come close to suggesting you were an obese American? He's merely saying there are far more factors to solving the equation than you would originally think.

Ugh. Do your own homework on this. Going around poking sticks in people's eyes because they said something you "could" take as offense, is not cause to try to offend.

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And no, there are only ~300,000,000 Americans. The Asian population is an order higher. Hence the skew.

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That fewer pig out is the viciousness of the skew.

I agree with your view of australia, at least australians are not debating in goverment whether to allow torture or not, neither do we have a death penalty. Ah well, civilisation is a slow process and it sure seems to go back and forth!

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He wasn't implying I was an obese american, he was implying I was an american.

The way things are going today, I would be ashamed to be american. To be assumed one makes me feel sick.

And in his post just before this one, he is again talking to me like I'm american. I guess this guy has geography problems. So much for the "worldly" australians. It's not like I'm hiding what I am. My location is "Victoria BC" and my avatar is a hockey player. Do the math.

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He wasn't implying I was an obese american, he was implying I was an american.


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In North America, I'd say 175 lbs. World? I guess there are a lot of Asians. Maybe closer to 160. But that number is viciously skewed by the Asian population.


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Sorry, I thought that meant you were talking about americans!? Of course, if from your view point Canada is not in America, heh! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I understand why you see australia as a penal colony! LOL [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Doing the math on the OP's question was relatively easy for me.

Doing the math on incomplete information too on your last paragraph, I'd guess you aren't that far removed from Grade 10.

Why would you be ashamed to be American? I've lived in the States. Americans are wonderful people. Some of them are full of themselves, like some Canadians I know. Australians too. I've made friends from all six populated continents and have a fairly large sample size to boot. Even those bloody Burmese dwarf thieves have overgrown egos too.

Edit: I've never been able to take myself seriously, so that might have something to do with it.

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But that number is viciously skewed by the Asian population.

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The minority isn't skewed by the majority. Where are you lost? This is the average weight. That means developed countries aren't allowed to disproportionately skew the average as they normally do. The majority of the world's population can't get enough food. And the Asians and Africans represent the core of the population, not some outlier. We are the outlier, the fat happy extreme. The fact that on the extreme end there's an average weight of 175 isn't an indication that the global average is anything like it. Did you know that average genius has an IQ >140? So obviously the average IQ must be something like 140, right?

No. What happens among young, healthy Americans and Europeans isn't all that relevant to the mean. What happens among the anemic, aging, and diseased in other countries is more relevant.

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He wasn't implying I was an obese american, he was implying I was an american.


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In North America, I'd say 175 lbs. World? I guess there are a lot of Asians. Maybe closer to 160. But that number is viciously skewed by the Asian population.


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Sorry, I thought that meant you were talking about americans!? Of course, if from your view point Canada is not in America, heh! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I understand why you see australia as a penal colony! LOL [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Typical ignorant outsider lumping Canada in with the US.

One, a right wing, christian fundamentalist, war mongering country. The other, a peaceful, secular, tolerant, socialist country.

But yes, go ahead and lump them together.

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Doing the math on incomplete information too on your last paragraph, I'd guess you aren't that far removed from Grade 10.

Why would you be ashamed to be American? I've lived in the States. Americans are wonderful people.

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I'm five years removed from grade 10.

I'm not saying Americans aren't wonderful people. I don't know if I'd go so far as to call them wonderful, but I have no problem with the american people as a whole. But it is true that anybody who elects that fundamentalist extremist warlord president not once, but twice, has got to be lacking in the intelligence department.

I could never live in a war mongering religious state. I am vehemently anti-religion and anti-war.

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It may be easier to think of weight as being directly proportional to height.. and use some generic (average)formula such as W = 110 + (hight over 5' x 6 lbs.)
so if you were 5'6" your average weight would be around 146 and if you were 6' tall you would probably weigh 182
If you were 4'11 then you probably weigh 104 lbs. women would be similar but use a differnt base wt and multiplier say 100 + 4 lbs per inch over 5' so a 5'5" woman weighs on avg 120. and a 6' tall woman 148

Now what is the average HEIght of males over 14 in the world?

I am going to guess the average is somewhere around 140-145
(for every 6' north american there are probably 5 skinny 5'5" asians) 150 million vs 750million.

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Doing the math on incomplete information too on your last paragraph, I'd guess you aren't that far removed from Grade 10.

Why would you be ashamed to be American? I've lived in the States. Americans are wonderful people.

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I'm five years removed from grade 10.

I'm not saying Americans aren't wonderful people. I don't know if I'd go so far as to call them wonderful, but I have no problem with the american people as a whole. But it is true that anybody who elects that fundamentalist extremist warlord president not once, but twice, has got to be lacking in the intelligence department.

I could never live in a war mongering religious state. I am vehemently anti-religion and anti-war.

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Evan, so am I. And our discussions on the more exotic aspects of physics and that political discussion in OOT, we do see eye to eye on many things.

What I've learnt though, and it wasn't an easy lesson, that to springboard your personal views in the fashion of a demagogue does nobody any good. WE, as Canadians, have good reason to be leery of America's policies. Having lived there for long periods, what you many not realize is HALF of Americans feel the same way we do about things. Thing is, the other half makes it interesting every four years.

We're spoiled by our multi-party system. While the NDP and Bloc certainly will not carry a federal majority, they do carry quite a large segment of the population in the provinces.

So I choose to live in Canada. I love this country, and I'll always defend it. But I will not go on the offensive to defend it.

Anyway, sorry for the massive hijack, I just thought I should say these things.

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Average male height in China and India is 5'6". It's 5'9" in the US. I think it would fall around 5'7" worldwide. Maybe 5'8". Assuming a healthy weight (22 BMI), that's about 140 lbs. I imagine the malnourished will contribute more than the overweight, given that there are more of them. So I'm thinking slightly less than 140 lbs.

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How is 5'9 average?

I consider that height very short. I would think the average North American height would be at least 5'11.

Maybe it's because I'm 6'4, maybe it's because I hang around with primarily "tall" people, maybe it's because I'm just missing the boat on this one, but I find 5'8 really hard to believe.

Assuming people healthy is always a crappy assumption. Also, one 300 pound every day obese american accounts for four 100lb malnourished africans in your calculation. There is a lot more room for skewing the mean on the fat side of things.

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Well.

Populations in Asia and Africa are about 6 persons for each American and Canadian. So that'll cover your 4 for each one with two malnourished Third Worlders left over.

Oh. Not everyone in Canada and the US weighs 300 pounds.

Even if your numbers are right, 700/5 = 140. Hmm.

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Take it up with the surveyors then, I guess. I've heard that 5'9" is the average height for Caucasian, American men for a while now. And it used to be shorter, 50, 100, 200 years ago. The average is definitely not close to 6 feet.

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5'9" is the average height of men in the US. If you find it hard to believe, that's your problem. Average height in Canada is 5'11", so maybe that's your issue. At any rate you don't seem well-educated about the rest of the world.

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He wasn't implying I was an obese american, he was implying I was an american.


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In North America, I'd say 175 lbs. World? I guess there are a lot of Asians. Maybe closer to 160. But that number is viciously skewed by the Asian population.


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Sorry, I thought that meant you were talking about americans!? Of course, if from your view point Canada is not in America, heh! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I understand why you see australia as a penal colony! LOL [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Typical ignorant outsider lumping Canada in with the US.

One, a right wing, christian fundamentalist, war mongering country. The other, a peaceful, secular, tolerant, socialist country.

But yes, go ahead and lump them together.

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MidGe wasn't saying that Canada is part of The United States of America, he was saying that Canada is part of North America.

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Okay, interesting link:

http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/sc..._103140_103140

So my suggestion of 5'11 was pretty good, I was just incorrect in thinking that average held over all of North American and not just Canada.

So, according to that article, I can thank Tommy Douglas for being 6'4!

And I am very educated about the rest of the world, thank you very much. I am sorry that this knowledge is not showing in this obsure topic.

And not every african or asian is malnourished. And believe it or not, there are fat (even 300lb) asians and africans.

To tell you the truth, this topic doesn't interest me very much. I just don't like it when people lump Canada and the US together. It would be like lumping Switzerland and Germany together 65 years ago.

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To tell you the truth, this topic doesn't interest me very much. I just don't like it when people lump Canada and the US together. It would be like lumping Switzerland and Germany together 65 years ago

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What you ought to dislike and discourage then is USA citizens appropriate the term americans to refer to themselves. I know they are hegemonists and imperialists but they don't rules the americas yet.

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To tell you the truth, this topic doesn't interest me very much. I just don't like it when people lump Canada and the US together. It would be like lumping Switzerland and Germany together 65 years ago

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What you ought to dislike and discourage then is USA citizens appropriate the term americans to refer to themselves. I know they are hegemonists and imperialists but they don't rules the americas yet.

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What?

They are Americans. That's what they are. Just like you are Australian, and I am Canadian.

Something odd is going on here. I think they teach you some funny stuff in school or something. American refers to a person from the United States of America. Canadian refers to a person from Canada. North American refers to a person from North America.

What is difficult about this?

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In the same way that in some countries the Malvinas are called the Falkland, in some coutries americans refer to people from the americas and US citizens refer to those spcifically from that nation. Personally I prefer the latter usage, as more accurate.

Australia being a continent has not got a similar confusion. Europeans on the other hand is a term that can be as vague as american in its usage. To some it doesn't include the eastern countries, oters may say that the UK is not part of it and there is a tremendous debate going on as to whether or not Turkey should be included.

It is ok for you not to see yourself as an american but I have countless friends from South America who see themselves as americans but definitely are not even interested in being associted with the US citizenry per se.

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So where are you from Joe?

I'm Australian.

So where are you from Sven?

I'm Danish.

So where are you from Jeff?

I'm Canadian.

So where are you from Kaz?

I'm Japanese.

So where are you from Mike?

I'm a US citizen.

Right....

"European" refers to someone from Europe, just like "North American" refers to someone from North America. What your definition of the geography of Europe is has no bearing on this argument.

This is not difficult.

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So where are you from Mike?

I'm a US citizen.

Right....

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You got it! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I mean they could decide to call themselves bushies, or fundies, or yankees, or idiots, for all I care. But I don't think they should appropriate a term that correctly applies to many others.

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European" refers to someone from Europe, just like "North American" refers to someone from North America. What your definition of the geography of Europe is has no bearing on this argument.


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I am not saying it does, but american refers to someone fron the americas. Luckily english is not a prescriptive language and we don't all have to adopt the Canadian or USA form. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] If it was prescriptive, US and Canadians english speakers would need make adjustments to their way of speaking and spelling.

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I'm not an American. Sorry, I'm not.

I am a North American, Canadian and British Columbian.

In any case, what good is lumping half the world under a common name? Would you like to be called a "eastern hemispherer"? What good does that do? How uselessly undescriptive is that?

An American is someone from the United States of America. Saying anything else is patently incorrect.

It would be like you calling yourselves Australians in Australia, but Canadians calling you "Penal Thugs" as a proper noun. It's really no different. We have the right to call ourselves whatever we want and it is disrespectful of other nations not to refer to us as such.

Americans are Americans because that's what they call themselves. You have no right to tell them what to call themselves, just as Canadians have no right to refer to "Australians" as "Penal Thugs".

And don't start with accents. British people are somewhat annoying to listen to, Americans (most, not all) are extremely annoying to listen to, but Australians are off the charts. Worst accent in the world bar none.

Let's put it this way, I'm a student, and if I had to choose a professor between a barely comprehendible native Mandarin speaker and an Australian english speaker, I'd pick the chinese guy.

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That's cool evank,

Like New Zealanders are referred to as, and indeed refer to themselves as, kiwis, I guess canadians could, for similar reasons, and especially based on your representation ought to, be referred to as loonies. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Anyway, I feel we have hijacked the thread, I have nor more comment on this. I'll leave the last word to a loonie if he wishes. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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The term is actually Canucks, but the "joke" stands I suppose.

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The average weight of men really isn't very useful information. The average body fat % or average BMI would yield more interesting health trends.

For example, a 6'2", 200# guy with 15% body fat is far healthier than a 6'2", 200# guy at 35% body fat.