Does it Affect Canadian Players?
 

I know there's a lot of threads popping up because of this, but thought this one might be somewhat valid... I guess if it's not it will fall off the page pretty quick.

How does this affect Canadian players?

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it probably significantly upgrades the quality of your competition.

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In the same way it affects Russian, El Salvadorean, and Nigerian players.

Less fish.

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I believe you have a phrase for this.

Loosely translated from the original Canadian text, I believe it is "YOU GET [censored] BY A MOOSE"

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Hmmm... while I guess that's better than being afraid that I'll lose all my Neteller cash or money on sites.
Still have no idea why regulation doesn't seem to be getting any serious consideration though... alas.

Edit: Less fish is better than losing cash. Getting effed by a moose, probably not. I'd pay at least $300 to avoid being effed by a moose.

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Hmmm... while I guess that's better than being afraid that I'll lose all my Neteller cash or money on sites.
Still have no idea why regulation doesn't seem to be getting any serious consideration though... alas.

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gambling is sinful and also think of the children

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Well, if you want to get technical, the Bible says nothing of gambling, and therefore isn't expressely a sin. It says to be wise with your money. So if your a fish, gambling could be a sin then, I guess. If you're good, it's Salomon-esque.

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When i first started playing, paradise poker was the main site.
They would have 3000 players online and i remember thinking "wow" 3k players all at the same place.
There is now 100s of thousands of players and americans make up 80%,so that still leaves a sht load of players.

As far as the games being tougher,im not sure i agree.
Ive been playing at some of the sites that have recently banned american players and found the games to be great.
Lots of europeans ,canadians and and even players from asian countries.

I think we will see alot of sites consolidating and we go back to the old days.As a canadian things are still good, although i am sad to see my U.S counterparts have to go thru this.

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When i first started playing paradise poker was the main site.
they would have 3000 players online and i remember thinking "wow" 3k players all at the same place.
There is now 100s of thousands of players and americans make up 80%,so that still leaves a sht load of players.

As far as the games being tougher,im not sure i agree.
Ive been playng at some of the sites that have recently banned american players and found the games to be great.
Lots of europeans ,canadians and and even players from asian countries.

I think we will see alot of sites consolidating and we go back to old days.As a canadian things are still good although i am sad to see my U.S counterparts have to go thru this.

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it's possible that the sites will still allow american players, but only winning american players (with a few exceptions) will be able to play.

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i am Canadian, this is horrible, horrible, speechless...

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Indeed man... but have you thought of the standards of play back in the olden days of poker? It's quite possible that the quality of play will slip significantly over the long run. A veritable dark ages of poker... also there'll be WAY fewer people at the Main Event, so people will quit bitching about raising the buy-in. [/unfounded optimism]

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How does a US law affect Canadian Players? Are you kidding me? WTF, I forgot that Canada was the 51st state. You are SOL Manchild. All your money belongs to Frist now. Damn US government.

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Read my location.

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it probably significantly upgrades the quality of your competition.

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You severely overestimate the skill of European's and players from either gambling oriented cultures or places where poker is still relatively new.

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nah, if you want to get technical - why the **** should someone else's iron age myth affect my ability to play poker online in the 21st century?

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I know there's a lot of threads popping up because of this, but thought this one might be somewhat valid... I guess if it's not it will fall off the page pretty quick.

How does this affect Canadian players?

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I am sorry, but what kind of question is this? Obviously the US can't pass laws in Canada, so you must be wondering about side effects of the US bill... millions of US players affected, yet astonishly the rest of the world doesn't notice? Yeah, it affects everybody that plays. But us the most. Land of the free...

Now that I mocked your question...can I move in with you?

Edit: I see your post adds the word "how", a useful change to your question, but I am not changing my post and I make a good tenant...no loud party's, or dope smoking.

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the only thing i worry about is all the large canadian banks have operations in the evil neighbour to the south. hopefully they won't give in to the nonsense.

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We from other countries are also observing what is happening, its a real shame like a poster before me said "land of the free". It will affect online poker very much because as you stated majority of players comes from USA. There is a significant amount of players from all over the world and more and more people are playing it, and there are many fish but nevertheless if it comes to that it will never be the same.

I just cannot understand how this can happen in USA where gamblind and especially poker is a big tradition if i am not mistaken.

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I just cannot understand how this can happen in USA where gamblind and especially poker is a big tradition if i am not mistaken.

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What, you mean because it's called Texas Hold 'Em? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

It's really a crime that this happened in the manner that it did. Were this bill put forth on its own, it never would have passed. However it was tacked onto a "Port Security" bill that no one could politically vote against, and done so at the last minute.

Despite what some have stated here, it's ridiculous to believe that the overall quality of play will go up or down because of this. What will happen is there will be significantly less money in play, which is bad for everyone.

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the fact is that the better players, the serious players, will find a way to play again. They will move somewhere else or they will find a way to keep playing.

The fishes who are playing for fun 1 or 2 days a week will NOT do these things to keep playing, they will just stop.

So we lose a LOT of fish and good US players will find a way to keep playing.



Poker sites will do more advertising elsewhere in the world, but it can take a while to see only the half of what we have now.

Dark days are coming for the online poker, and not only for Canada players. It's a recession of 2-3 years for poker population, with more good players than 3 years ago.

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Excerpt from a CTV news clip.

Canada's federal government is monitoring the issue, but plans to focus on prevention and treatment for gambling addicts instead. "Our approach, which is to deal with people who have these issues -- I think it's probably the more appropriate one and probably the one that'll have more success," Health Minister Tony Clement said.

I guess that means they will be implementing safe injection sites for the degenerate online poker junkies who have lost all self control and have spiraled down the dark degrading vortex of online poker. Kidding aside, I'm Canadian and I hope they maintain the F_U stance towards those donks in power to the south of us, who come up with such rubbish in the name of justice, liberty and freedom. God bless America, your gonna need it.

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An issue for Canadian players that came to mind that I haven't heard discussed is, do people think the loss of volume will be concentrated to the evening hours? On weekdays, I would expect the casual-player volume before about 3:00 pm pst would be almost entirely European and after 3:00 pm to be North American. Am I on base with this, or are there allot of non-professional North American players during weekday mornings/afternoons?

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im a canadian mid limit pro and im wonderingabout this too. looks like player volume and game juiciness of party poker is still good. hopefully the euro market will stay strong and asia opens up. unfortunately, there may be less allure to playing an american game thats not even approved in its own country. i think even for foreign players, the idea of going to vegas and winning big US tournaments, the American dream, is part of poker's attraction.

also wonder if this will make criminals out of top pros who are endorsed by sites... they may have to exit domestic tourneys?

possibly look for forms of poker other than hold'em taking popularity and dominance. im a nl holdem specialist right now so thats bad news.

apart from making coin, i love the game and its a great north / american tradition ( as opposed to gun violence, racism, gay hating)and sad to see it treated like dirt when it has gotten respect lately. as for all those who voted REp last election... well time to think about making informed decisions...

DUBYA is a big fish donkey. I would play him HU all day.

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When i first started playing, paradise poker was the main site.
They would have 3000 players online and i remember thinking "wow" 3k players all at the same place.
There is now 100s of thousands of players and americans make up 80%,so that still leaves a sht load of players.


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I played there too, before anyone heard of partypoker but do you remember what the highest limit was? 200nl.

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it probably significantly upgrades the quality of your competition.

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You severely overestimate the skill of European's and players from either gambling oriented cultures or places where poker is still relatively new.

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But many American pro's will find away around the law or move to another country while the fish obviously wont. This will make a big difference imo, for some more than others.

For instance, I would expect the biggest change in skill level to be for evening and weekend play based on North American time zones.

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Did anyone hear anything about there being a technical problem with distinguishing the Canadian ISP's from the U.S. ones because their in the same system?

Re: Does it Affect Canadian Players? NO
 

There is nothing in the Act that affects Canadian players.

Enjoy the Grey Cup.

TruePoker CEO

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Unless Canada was annexed as the 51st state in the Port Bill (Berge, Mr K please confirm) Canadians will not be subject to this law.

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Be aware there will be complexity with both separating out the U.S. and Canadian ISP's and the possibility of financial entities now being able to handle prevent our money going to poker sites, but allowing yours. These will be complex issues for the banking folks. What is to stop U.S. players from getting a Canadian banking account and a isp filter? It will probably cause identity theft. Article mentions possibility sites will just bar North America as a whole.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Content...4&t=TS_Home

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Saying there will be less fish is an understatement. Speaking about Party, their 6/30/06 financial statements show that over 77% of their income comes from US Players. They categorize their income as USA, Canada, Europe, Rest of the World. This will turn Party into what they did to Empire Poker. Good luck making a living or extra money.

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The affect on canadians will be fewer games, but to say that the quality of play will improve doesn't make sense. US players aren't anymore fishy that canadian or european players. The total number of players will drop, but the porportion of good to bad players will remain relatively constant.

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Be aware there will be complexity with both separating out the U.S. and Canadian ISP's and the possibility of financial entities now being able to handle prevent our money going to poker sites, but allowing yours. These will be complex issues for the banking folks. What is to stop U.S. players from getting a Canadian banking account and a isp filter? It will probably cause identity theft. Article mentions possibility sites will just bar North America as a whole.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Content...4&t=TS_Home

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Kind of hard to block the servers when they are in our country isn't it.