50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

41/29/2.2 WTSD 39.5.. after 429 hands


Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $50/$100
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9SB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, What should Hero do?

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

Tough spot, but I'd be much more worried about KK than a flush given the action. The river donk is usually a sign of weakness, though, so I'd probably raise and pay off a re-raise.

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

"Let's play way ahead or way behind and party like it's ninety-nine?"

I'd raise.

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

doesnt kk cr or lead the flop like every time?

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

This looks a lot like an A6/AT/AhX/something else you beat than it does a flush. Maniacs like this love to check/raise this sort of turn against me with a flush draw.

I'd raise, but if you're debating it that's probably why you're playing 50/100 and I'm the idiot raising every time someone really aggressive donks into him when the obvious draw hits.

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

the dude is super aggressive and the AhXh flush is basically out imo because he didnt pop you on the turn. also the Kh is out now so he had to have 3-bet you with a QhXh, JhXh, ThXh, or 9hXh hand.

imo both ThXh and 9hXh are out completely because they either flopped TP+FD or an OESFD and would definitely show aggression on the flop (i'll assume Jx hearts is still there even though that one flopped a gutshot+fd). so now what Qx/Jx heart hands could he have? if you take only the ones that are unpaired and w/o a flopped straight draw, there really arent very many.

go ahead and raise call

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

Ok, everyone says raise, but who would actualy have the stones to do it in the heat of battle?

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

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Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

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I would. I think he has k8 or k9 a lot more often than he has a flush. maybe even kt or kj, though that would be sort of insane (though he does have LAG stats)

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

i would proly think for a bit, realize he doesnt have a flush, and raise. he would realize his ace aint good and fold. or 3ball me with a flush or kk.

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i would proly think for a bit, realize he doesnt have a flush, and raise. he would realize his ace aint good and fold. or 3ball me with a flush or kk.

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You really think someone that is 40/30 is going to fold an Ace here?

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doesnt kk cr or lead the flop like every time?

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I think this guy puts in some action on the flop here with KK almost always.

I am not sure why KK is one of the hands that some in this thread are concerned with. Highly unlikley.

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i would proly think for a bit, realize he doesnt have a flush, and raise. he would realize his ace aint good and fold. or 3ball me with a flush or kk.

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You really think someone that is 40/30 is going to fold an Ace here?

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sure, why do his pf stats exclude him from playing well and reading hands postflop?

what i mean is, he has just as much chance as some random 30/20 or 25/18 of folding an ace.

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

If some random villain folds his ace on the end here you're not nearly scary enough. Be scary.

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If some random villain folds his ace on the end here you're not nearly scary enough. Be scary.

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you mean waste 2bb in a 7bb pot with a hand that beats a bluff anyway?

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

will you two carry out your personal issues else where please?

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the dude is super aggressive and the AhXh flush is basically out imo because he didnt pop you on the turn. also the Kh is out now so he had to have 3-bet you with a QhXh, JhXh, ThXh, or 9hXh hand.

imo both ThXh and 9hXh are out completely because they either flopped TP+FD or an OESFD and would definitely show aggression on the flop (i'll assume Jx hearts is still there even though that one flopped a gutshot+fd). so now what Qx/Jx heart hands could he have? if you take only the ones that are unpaired and w/o a flopped straight draw, there really arent very many.

go ahead and raise call

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good post

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

vegan, i say raise. sorry if my post was a bit pessimistic. its just when multiple bets go in on late streets and i have non nuts i seem to lose. thats a personal problem. using some simple handreading you are ahead here so its a raise. however, against a really good player im not so sure how great a raise is here. i could get away from an ace here (not to say im good.)

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

hey guys, i havent played limit in a while but wow this is an easy raise.

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Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

raise/call/next hand.

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

It's an interesting spot. I wouldn't be scared of the flush, because you would get some heat before. The same reasoning applies for KK.
I think, he is affraid being outkicked to bet the turn. The river card is scary, so this adds a little protection to his bet. I put the SB on AQ,AJ that wants to value bet on river. Also but les probable AK,K9s, K8s. He may also bluff, but thats not relevant.
I think you are way ahead the 66% you need. I say 80%. So get the 0,5BB that you deserve.
And if mr. lucky SB really has KK, he may be scared of AA or flush either so he won't necessary reraise.

Good variance

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

Think you are right that it´s a raise. The heart hands just doesn´t make that much sense to have been played so passively. Nothing really do, but it´s probably Ax or K7/K8/KJ often enough.

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

got to raise this at least once. Most of the time he'll pushi his hearts draw on the flop or turn.

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Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

Easy raise/call, with call being weighted more towards a cap than fold.

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Tough spot, but I'd be much more worried about KK than a flush given the action.

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Um, no. I think there is just barely above a 0% chance that a guy with those stats has KK and played the hand this way. I can't imagine how he wouldn't CR flop (or why he wouldn't).

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hey guys, i havent played limit in a while but wow this is an easy raise.

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Um, yes.

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

flush is the hand that makes sense, he wants to bet-&gt;3bet it! KK would give action on flop, AK would pop turn, if he has a set ud hear from it also, i doubt he 3bets with K9 K8 K7 so no two pair.. weakly played QJs or QTs perhaps! he doesnt wanna pop with it cause its been capped pf and hes oop!

Re: 50 hundy hando, with set on flush river
 

41/29 player absolutely 3bets a button openraise with k7 k8 k9