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epdaws 09-27-2006 07:22 PM

Bands That Peaked With Their First Commercial Album
 
A number of posters lately have referred to bands who have gone downhill of late. It got me thinking about why this happens; is it akin to a solid writer who produces a brilliant work, gets hired to pump out a bunch of books, and the rest are mediocre or suck?

Regardless, I think there are some interesting examples of bands that have declined this their first commercial hit.

I'll start with Counting Crows. I think Duritz's lyrics on that album were chilling, and I don't think he's touched that level since.

Others?

lippy 09-27-2006 07:27 PM

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Hootie and the Blowfish
Blues Traveler

Q8offsuit 09-27-2006 07:28 PM

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All 3 of the bands mentioned here "peaked" at beyond awful.

edfurlong 09-27-2006 07:30 PM

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The Sex Pistols went downhill pretty fast after their first.

epdaws 09-27-2006 07:30 PM

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All 3 of the bands mentioned here "peaked" at beyond awful.

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I never said Counting Crows is a great band, or had a great album. I do, however, think that Duritz's lyrical work on August and Everything After was unique; the first line of Round Here is about as un-cliche a way there is to say someone feels unnoticed.

bugstud 09-27-2006 07:31 PM

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let's see. Many years of touring and demos and many songs written ----> contract with label -----> now I gotta make a cd another 14 months later? Aiya

epdaws 09-27-2006 07:32 PM

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let's see. Many years of touring and demos and many songs written ----> contract with label -----> now I gotta make a cd another 14 months later? Aiya

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Yep, that's the point I was making. Sad to see in many cases.

Another poster in the thread about Christian music mentioned Switchfoot, but I have not heard their new stuff.

MattSuspect 09-27-2006 07:34 PM

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August and Everything After is a great album.

samjjones 09-27-2006 07:36 PM

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Boston

LionelHutz00 09-27-2006 07:36 PM

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Nirvana (remember that it's commercial album- so we're looking at Nevermind, not Bleach)
Weezer
Dave Matthews Band
Sublime
Guns n Roses
Jimi Hendrix
Incubus

Borodog 09-27-2006 07:37 PM

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Boston

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Roan 09-27-2006 07:38 PM

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The Strokes
Pearl Jam

miajag 09-27-2006 07:39 PM

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All 3 of the bands mentioned here "peaked" at beyond awful.

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Blues Traveler was somewhat better than "beyond awful" IMO.

Jasper109 09-27-2006 07:40 PM

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Boston

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arod4276 09-27-2006 07:42 PM

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August and Everything After is a great album.

tdarko 09-27-2006 07:42 PM

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Nirvana (remember that it's commercial album- so we're looking at Nevermind, not Bleach)
Weezer
Dave Matthews Band
Sublime
Guns n Roses
Jimi Hendrix
Incubus

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miajag 09-27-2006 07:43 PM

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Weezer

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no

epdaws 09-27-2006 07:44 PM

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Nirvana (remember that it's commercial album- so we're looking at Nevermind, not Bleach)
Weezer
Dave Matthews Band
Sublime
Guns n Roses
Jimi Hendrix
Incubus

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Not sure I agree with Weezer. DMB, definitely; Under the Table was the only album from them I actually liked.

neuroman 09-27-2006 08:06 PM

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Pearl Jam

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wrong.

Stone Temple Pilots, however, is correct.

DonkeyKongSr 09-27-2006 08:09 PM

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Stone Temple Pilots, however, is correct.

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Core and Purple were both great. Everything after sucked. So, almost.

nath 09-27-2006 08:13 PM

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Uh, I guess Nirvana is technically true, but calling any of their subsequent discs a downhill slide is kind of ridiculous.
Sublime? Didn't they have, like, one commercial album?
And I don't understand the Hendrix choice.

iversonian 09-27-2006 08:17 PM

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Green Day

Hey_Porter 09-27-2006 08:18 PM

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Nirvana (remember that it's commercial album- so we're looking at Nevermind, not Bleach)
Weezer
Dave Matthews Band
Sublime
Guns n Roses
Jimi Hendrix
Incubus

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Dave Matthews Band isn't even close to a correct answer. Both Crash and Under the Table and Dreaming have the majority of DMB's best stuff.

epdaws 09-27-2006 08:21 PM

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Nirvana (remember that it's commercial album- so we're looking at Nevermind, not Bleach)
Weezer
Dave Matthews Band
Sublime
Guns n Roses
Jimi Hendrix
Incubus

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Dave Matthews Band isn't even close to a correct answer. Both Crash and Under the Table and Dreaming have the majority of DMB's best stuff.

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Wasn't Under the Table their first commercial album? If yes, then they qualify.

mikech 09-27-2006 08:22 PM

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maroon 5

samjjones 09-27-2006 08:23 PM

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"Born To Run" was Springsteen's first "commercial" album.

Hey_Porter 09-27-2006 08:25 PM

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Nirvana (remember that it's commercial album- so we're looking at Nevermind, not Bleach)
Weezer
Dave Matthews Band
Sublime
Guns n Roses
Jimi Hendrix
Incubus

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Dave Matthews Band isn't even close to a correct answer. Both Crash and Under the Table and Dreaming have the majority of DMB's best stuff.

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Wasn't Under the Table their first commercial album? If yes, then they qualify.

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If your definition of peaked is limited to your personal preference, then I guess I guess so. But if your definition requires some form of peak in terms of music and lyrics, then you are way off.

amplify 09-27-2006 08:25 PM

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NWA

epdaws 09-27-2006 08:30 PM

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maroon 5

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lol

epdaws 09-27-2006 08:31 PM

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Nirvana (remember that it's commercial album- so we're looking at Nevermind, not Bleach)
Weezer
Dave Matthews Band
Sublime
Guns n Roses
Jimi Hendrix
Incubus

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Dave Matthews Band isn't even close to a correct answer. Both Crash and Under the Table and Dreaming have the majority of DMB's best stuff.

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Wasn't Under the Table their first commercial album? If yes, then they qualify.

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If your definition of peaked is limited to your personal preference, then I guess I guess so. But if your definition requires some form of peak in terms of music and lyrics, then you are way off.

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Let's not waste a lot of time on DMB -- severly overrated, imo. But I'd still take Under the Table over any of the rest.

Fenster 09-27-2006 08:31 PM

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Bradley Nowell (lead singer of Sublime) died before their self-titled album was released. Though Second Hand Smoke and an acoustic album were released after this fact.

IMO, Weezer's Pinkerton is their best album. So they didn't start sliding until the Green Album.

As far as bands that started sucking hard after their first album - Limp Bizkit and Creed come to mind.

Jasper109 09-27-2006 08:32 PM

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Van Halen
Dire Straits
The Cars
Joe Jackson
Heart
Foreigner

JP OSU 09-27-2006 08:33 PM

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Third Eye Blind

Hey_Porter 09-27-2006 08:35 PM

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Nirvana (remember that it's commercial album- so we're looking at Nevermind, not Bleach)
Weezer
Dave Matthews Band
Sublime
Guns n Roses
Jimi Hendrix
Incubus

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Dave Matthews Band isn't even close to a correct answer. Both Crash and Under the Table and Dreaming have the majority of DMB's best stuff.

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Wasn't Under the Table their first commercial album? If yes, then they qualify.

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If your definition of peaked is limited to your personal preference, then I guess I guess so. But if your definition requires some form of peak in terms of music and lyrics, then you are way off.

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Let's not waste a lot of time on DMB -- severly overrated, imo. But I'd still take Under the Table over any of the rest.

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Yea, with this opinion, we won't get far in a discussion on quality music.

epdaws 09-27-2006 08:35 PM

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Third Eye Blind

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They would fall into the "bands that sucked before, during, and after commercial success" category.

Coffee 09-27-2006 08:42 PM

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Live
Green Day
Alanis Morissette

27offsuit 09-27-2006 08:43 PM

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The Strokes

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Yes




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Pearl Jam

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No

kidcolin 09-27-2006 08:46 PM

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I think Nirvana is a pretty poor choice, for the reasons Nath stated. Plus, I like Unplugged more.

CallMeIshmael 09-27-2006 08:53 PM

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The Strokes second album was a lot better than the first

Q8offsuit 09-27-2006 08:56 PM

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All 3 of the bands mentioned here "peaked" at beyond awful.

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Blues Traveler was somewhat better than "beyond awful" IMO.

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Sorry, man. Let's smoke a nug and play some hacky sack.


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