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I play mid-limit stud, omaha and hold-em all over town. My favorite place is the Commerce where you can find me at the 10/20 nl, 20/40 stud, hold-em and working out at the 200, 300/500 nl at the Bike (300/500 has to be one of the best small/mid limit nl around).

I was curious what the "favorite" sativa strain for you is. I'm a light smoker, about an 1/8th or so a month and I'm looking for a strain that lends itself well to logical thinking. I've been a successful poker player for almost 10 years and have tried a few high sativa strains. They seem to do well in terms of creativity and recall. I'm looking for some strains that you have tried that help you with these two very important aspects of poker. I'm also looking for some general experinces you guys have while smoking and playing and how you think it may help or hinder your processes at the table. Thanks guys!

normaljoe-

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While I can't say I would smoke before live play, I have often taken a puff or two during a long night session or tourney when I am card-dead or just stuck and am having a hard time staying patient. That's really the only time I find it useful. Other than that, I wait until I'm done playing because for me....being as coherant as possible is the key to success. Just my thoughts.

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When I did smoke pot, I had generally postive results in regards to poker. I dunno, it just put me more 'in the moment'... my reads were generally right on, and my creativity was on a different level. I don't know if I'd say it HELPED me a whole lot, but it definately didn't hurt. I was at a home game once, a sit n go tournament, where we all got high before the heads up (It was me and the host). 10 minutes in, I hit a royal flush on the turn, and he pushes in on me. It was my first royal flush ever, and I won the tourney with it. My friend pointed out that if we didn't all go smoke, that hand would never have happened.

That being said, I recenlty quit the ganja. I felt it was taking more than it was giving. That's just me, though.

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the big disadvantage is your memory of course.

eg : If you can't remember what a player did two orbits back when raised on the big blind, you're at a big disadvantage.

I think it's a bad idea to smoke and play, smoke after the game if you want.

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Anyone that smokes pot or does any other kind of drug other then prescribed by a doctor is an idiot. plain and simple. any post describing or talking about it should not be allowed. you have to be a moron to do drugs

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Anyone that smokes pot or does any other kind of drug other then prescribed by a doctor is an idiot. plain and simple. any post describing or talking about it should not be allowed. you have to be a moron to do drugs

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I have to say, I LOL'd at this reply.

So I guess it's okay to smoke up if prescribed by your doctor?

The majority of people addicted to drugs are addicted to prescription medication. Ever heard of 'doctor shopping'?

Maybe I'm reading it incorrectly, but your post comes across in a condescending manner.

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If you're a 13 year old girl and have been smoking pot, don't ride your bike.

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Anyone that smokes pot or does any other kind of drug other then prescribed by a doctor is an idiot. plain and simple. any post describing or talking about it should not be allowed. you have to be a moron to do drugs

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lol ignorantaments.

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Anyone that smokes pot or does any other kind of drug other then prescribed by a doctor is an idiot. plain and simple. any post describing or talking about it should not be allowed. you have to be a moron to do drugs

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the [censored] doctors prescribe is worse for you than smoking pot.

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Anyone that smokes pot or does any other kind of drug other then prescribed by a doctor is an idiot. plain and simple. any post describing or talking about it should not be allowed. you have to be a moron to do drugs

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I totally agree with absolutely none of this.

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it is condescending. I have never tried any illegal narcotic. I am very much against them and think you have to have an IQ of less then 1 to use them. It is moronic period. Can I get any clearer?

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if you believe that you are an uneducated moron

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Anyone that smokes pot or does any other kind of drug other then prescribed by a doctor is an idiot. plain and simple.

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So this is ok then?

http://www.rauchgeraete.com/shop/images/Vulcano2-2.jpg

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any post describing or talking about it should not be allowed.

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take that first step. delete yours.

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you have to be a moron to do drugs

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wasn't a requirement when i joined.

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the [censored] doctors prescribe is worse for you than smoking pot.

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My doctor prescribed me pot....


There was a good post about this topic in the psychology forum a while back. One guy even had a two separate PT databases one when he was stoned and one when he was not stoned.

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it is condescending. I have never tried any illegal narcotic. I am very much against them and think you have to have an IQ of less then 1 to use them. It is moronic period. Can I get any clearer?

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Most any kind of statement this absolute well...is stupid.

Doctors don't prescribe alcohol, which, when used in moderation, has been overwhelmingly shown to decrease the risk of heart disease.

Consumption of caffeine on an irregular basis can be useful when doing a task that requires diligence.

If most teens smoked marijuana rather than doing stupid alternatives they often choose (throwing [censored] out car windows, unprotected sex, fights at football games), they'd be better off.

Heroin and cocaine are used in medical settings.


There's a good chance I'll be going into [censored] drug treatment, and I acknowledge these things.

Your post is so unbelievably ignorant and rife with pretention that I'd almost smile if I weren't banging my head on the table.

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"I'm looking for a strain that lends itself well to logical thinking"

hahahahahaha.

ok, seriously, you said you play at commerce. i was there and thru a fortunate encounter with the shuttle driver at my airport i had a nice satchel. so, wheres a good spot to smoke in the near vicinity (walking distance)? pm is fine. no need to blow up the spot as im sure the atf is monitoring this board carefully.

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the [censored] doctors prescribe is worse for you than smoking pot.

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My doctor prescribed me pot....


There was a good post about this topic in the psychology forum a while back. One guy even had a two separate PT databases one when he was stoned and one when he was not stoned.

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link or summary pls?

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You'll eventually hit a burn out stage when using drugs while playing. How will you play then? Most likey worst... It may be good while your high, but there are consequences.

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You'll eventually hit a burn out stage when using drugs while playing. How will you play then? Most likey worst... It may be good while your high, but there are consequences.

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Any evidence to support this?

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Pot affects people in different ways so there's no simple answer to it.

"a strain that lends itself well to logical thinking."

Smoking pot is not going to create logical thinking if it wasn't there before.

For me smoking definetly helps because I do play a little different (more selective agression) and just that fact alone helps. It relaxes me and I pay attention just as well if not better then when I haven't smoked. On some people it has the opposite effect and on some it has no effect. As in poker it just depends.

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it is condescending. I have never tried any illegal narcotic. I am very much against them and think you have to have an IQ of less then 1 to use them. It is moronic period. Can I get any clearer?

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You can get much clearer. You probably have an IQ close to 85... An IQ of less then 1; do you even have an idea what IQ is?

Also please don't ever use any 'illegal narcotic(s)', leave that stuff to me. You are obviously not mature enough to use any drugs. You doing drugs would be an much greater threat to society instead of talking nonsense over an internet forum.

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There was a good post about this topic in the psychology forum a while back. One guy even had a two separate PT databases one when he was stoned and one when he was not stoned.

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LOL... this guy has way too much time on his hands.

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I smoked weed while pokering for quite a few months with mixed results.

Sometimes I would play good, sometimes bad.

And to be brutally honest, smoking weed everyday is not good for your mental health. Paranoia, memory loss, I think slower...

But it is fun and something to do and I do it every chance I get.

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I hate to post i useually just lurk and read but heres my expert insight.
Im a 4th year Univ Cali, student at a campus that is pretty liberal and "weed" friendly... or atleast HighTimes says so.. Anyhow iv played online poker nearly everyday for 4 years. In that time i have also smoked nearly everyday. or atleast 28days a month lol. Heres some thoughts:
1)Pot is going to slow your response time... This means you cant really 5 table.. I try and play 2-4 when smoking.
2)Myself like many other thousands of americans are are prescribed this substance. (stop calling it a narcotic)
3)50$/100$ NL can become very very boring when trying to play 1200-1500 hands everyday.Pot makes the time fly.

But that being said. For Many people it should remain a recreational/social thing. I do live with 6 other people and nearly everyone in my community smokes. 75% of people cant function at the capicty needed to think at a capacity for playing poker, or going to school. So they dont... And you shouldnt be playing poker if you cant. That leaves a quater of people who can... If your of the remaining quater of the population take your chances. I feel i preform slighly more pasive when "jazzed". Less pfr and followup betts, but more assertive on my premiums, and u still get paid. Hummm Food for though. Oh yea i would always recomend some nice indoor boohaa, to many strains out there.

-Boohaa12

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I played 15 30 once high. I like never smoke and tried betting 15 on the turn a few times.

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As a 1/8 oz a week pot smoker for some 5-6 years I can tell you from numerous experiences that playing cards while high is generally a negative EV play.

For home games I guess it is okay since you probably know all the people there so the whole paranoia aspect doesn't really play. Besides, the amount of money on the line isn't usually that much so the experience becomes more of a "hang out" thing than a "win money at poker" thing. In this situation I am probably slightly positive lifetime.

In the B&M setting forget about it. You will be so concerned about how you look, if someone is looking at you, if someone can tell you are pushing a hand, etc, that you won't be able to make solid confident decisions at the table. Wearing sunglasses is almost a requirement, just as a mental mask of sorts. I have seen guys in Atlantic City go outside for a puff or two and then give away hundreds in the 45 min window when the high is the strongest. In all fairness I have also seen them run over tables, but they usually end up giving it all back.

Online it is the stone cold kiss of death. Depending on how long it was before you smoked you are either going to be super speedy and overconfident or very slow and dull minded. Also, when you start to lose the concept of bankroll discipline goes straight out of the window. How does one give away $100 playing 2/4 limit O8 in 20 min, take two bong hits and then log on to Party Poker. It magnifies your bad beat tilt and makes you think you are the king of cards when you are up. High variance w/ a slighly downward trend is a good way to describe it.

The single best thing resultswise that I have done for my game, just managing to do this in the past two months, was to go cold turkey w/ the weed. Like another poster said, it was taking more than it was giving.

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LOLOLOLOL.....ill just add my 2-cents and say that i used to be a huge weedhead.....blazed 3x/day for like 2.5 years....everything sucked (life, poker, school, etc) ....i recently quit and can confidantly call myself a winning player. This is not a NA meeting so all i will say is this: i know its hard to do but just dont blaze and things will be good....guaranteed

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First of all, in relation to godfathers comments, all I can say is more people probably have smoked weed than haven't, furthermore dont knock it til you've tried it, and lastly, either add to the post or dont bother posting, wish I didnt waste my time reading you're bs.

Second - Weeed. Well I smoke a lot normally, and I've found that unless you can stay stoned, your game will drop, you start "sobering" up and tilt will ensue for most players. They no longer find everything interesting, and I find when it gets 4 or 5 hours into a session at the casino I start playing well loose. Which means if I get a few bad beats im also more likely to tilt out.

In saying this, if I play at home, either online or home tourney, that weed can really help my game, especially online. Just with patience, and maybe a little more balls where required (I play six player limit 5.10 online and 10.20 otherwise)

Overall though, as said by a few, I think it takes more than it gives, especially in poker, where in reality we all know that a clear mind is key. And the only reason we smoke is because we really want too. Aswell as that, I think if you are falling asleep in the middle of a session, rather than have a puff, another narcotic will probably help more. . .

Drugs are bad mmmkkaaay.

Weed and cards dont mix, not if you want to be a winner.

Especially not in real life play.

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you sound like an 18 year old living with mommy. if you use drugs..well I have already covered it...you deserve living in the gutter and being homeless..that is how you will end up...or how you should end up.

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This is my game.

http://www.philivey.com/images/pic_ivey_rcol.jpg

And this is my game on drugs.

http://www.bravotv.com/Celebrity_Pok...ge_135x103.jpg

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Godfatherfan
for some people life is a struggle

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People like godfather are the same people that want to ban online poker. Ignorance says it all.

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I'd say the best strain for logical thinking and innovative approach is absolutely pure Chronic. And I mean the strain, not just any top notch weed.

But still, being high, or drunk or whatever has only negative effect on your play.

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it is condescending. I have never tried any illegal narcotic. I am very much against them and think you have to have an IQ of less then 1 to use them. It is moronic period. Can I get any clearer?

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I love the irony of somebody who doesn't know the difference of "then" and "than" saying other people are stupid. 13 year olds who just got done with the DARE program shouldn't be allowed to post on poker websites.

Godfather, move along.. the grown-ups are talking here.

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Anyone that smokes pot or does any other kind of drug other then prescribed by a doctor is an idiot. plain and simple. any post describing or talking about it should not be allowed. you have to be a moron to do drugs

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Do you drink coffee? Alcohol? Sorry to tell but these are both drugs by defintion. And highly addictive ones at that. Also, weed is not a narcotic. A narcotic is a drug derived from opium.

If you're going to be one these DARE mommies, get your facts straight.

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you sound like an 18 year old living with mommy. if you use drugs..well I have already covered it...you deserve living in the gutter and being homeless..that is how you will end up...or how you should end up.

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Dear Godfatherfan,

I am indeed 18 years old and I actually live with my father (thanks for asking bro!). Thank you that you are wishing 'the gutter' upon me; that is really cool. I personally wouldn't really classify a normal city in The Netherlands as gutter (far lower crime rate then in Detroit for example (and less poluted).

Ow yeah, I also found something funny on the internet wich led me to believe that you are an 18 year old yourself.

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Well I might be younger than you but I have much better taste, better comprehension of the English language and I also understand that an IQ of 1 is not possible.

TY!

BTW you 'sound' like someone who never attended college. Also please use capitals at the beginning of a sentence.

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you are absolutely correct.

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Godfather Son.... you azz just got run. Get an unique point not your mommmmies...

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I don't smoke pot. Most of the stoners around my town are losers, fools, and high school dropouts. Generally not very smart. So using this information I have on the regular pot smokers my only conclusion is that if you get high on a daily basis it prolly is and/or will hurt your poker playing ability as well as many other things.

Just my observation, as I said I don't smoke pot and am basing my view on what I have see from the stoners I know.

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i have to believe godfather is being sarcastic. If not this is DEFINATELY the most ignorant post I have ever read.