MyTurn\'s Top10 college teams
 

not who I'd vote for in an AP method
not any ranking equation

from what i've seen with my very own 2 eyes


1. Auburn
2. Ohio State
3. USC
4. LSU
5. Louisville
6. Texas
7. Florida
8. Michigan
9. Louisville
10 Georgia

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tdarko's top 10 from what he has seen:

1. USC- (3-0) Defeated a tough Arkansas team (Just upset Alabama) on the road badly and then beat a very good Nebraska team ranked #19. They haven't had an easy schedule so far yet they have looked in control every step of the way, their talent is unmatched and we heard stories in the past that their 2nd and 3rd string teams could beat up on most teams in the country...well I believe it. This team has more weapons than anyone else that takes the field against them.

2. Auburn- (4-0) Has looked impressive in every game. 3 blowouts in some games that should have been blow-outs and of couse the huge win in the "best of the (SEC) west" game against LSU. Their defense is stingy as hell, maybe the best--well the toughest for sure in the country.

3. OSU- (4-0) Smith and Ginn are going to be a headache for all opponents the whole year as expected but once again their defense has been outstanding--especially in the big Penn State win with two defensive touchdowns. I don't view the Texas win as big as most do, hell if you look back at the actual game thread I not only predicted how the game went but I damn near predicted the score. It wasn't tough to realize they were going to win this game...Texas snuck away with a win last year with the most talented player on the field, you take him away and add a freshman QB and voila! Either way, OSU is [censored]' good.

4. Florida- (4-0) Leak is not only playing great but finally playing well late and winning close games, such as the Tennessee win. This is a team that I didn't realize how athletic it was until I watched the Tennessee game but damn, one word describes these guys...speed. This is a very dangerous team, especially if Leak has figured out how to win close games--this will be the key later in the season, IMO.

5. LSU- (3-1) 4 yards from being 4-0. They have blown out 3 teams that aren't on their level and lost to 7-3 to Auburn in one of the best games of the year. It is tough to tell what their offense is actually going to do, they have put up 45+ against unranked and non-conference teams and put up a FG against Auburn but Auburn is stingy. So it will be interesting, their defense is always damn good but it will have to be great every game to get a BCS bid.

6. Louisville- (4-0) Even with the back-up in they are explosive. They looked up and down against K-State but Cantwell is only going to improve on is average day. They have W. Virginia and Rutgers to worry about--of course they can lose to anyone but for arguments sake those are their big games and Cantwell will have had 5 starts under his belt by the time W. Virginia comes into town. I think they are the better of the two Big East monsters.

7. Michigan- (4-0) Not much to say. The ND win was convincing and the win against Wisconsin was good as well b/c they are always pesky, and have an upset in them every year. They are winning big games and Henne hasn't really found his groove yet, not that he has played bad he just hasn't really exploded...he is 6th in his conference in passing. This is a team that I underrated myself, but I am a believer now! Plus having Manningham and Breaston to throw to must be nice.

8. Georgia- (4-0) They have QB problems there is no denying this but that defense is sweet. They didn't allow a touchdown for what seemed like an eternity. Their schedule is backloaded which is good for them b/c they are going to need to figure out their offensive problems. They will lose to Auburn and Florida at the tail end of the season, bummer.

9. West Virginia- (4-0) To me they have underachieved so far, they haven't been convincing. The team I saw last year was powerful, fast, explosive and scary and this team is playing E. Carolina close. Sure they have ran the score up a couple times this year but Slaton seems to be the only guy that has been a killer. Though White is just getting better and better, that guy is going to be a force. I should like this team a lot more but watching the E. Carolina game turned me off just a little bit...they are still immensly talented.

10. VT- (4-0) Haven't really played anyone but have looked in sync so far on both sides of the ball. Glennon looks fantastic so far. But this week they play GA Tech so we can see if they are for real, this is their first test.

I agree with you on the SEC love, I have always been a big fan even though you get flamed around here for defending this conference. I still put Georgia at #8 even with the scare last week, that young QB is only going to get better. VT has been rolling but they haven't really played anyone, we shall see if they are overrated this week against GA Tech. The big difference is that I wouldn't even put Texas in the top 11-12 and this will be evident October 7th.

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I think it should a requirement from now on that in order to post power rankings you have to follow PokerFink's blueprint and post reasons on why you have teams ranked where they are.

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I can post their respective weaknesses

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You put Louisville at #5 and #9. If I had to guess which one you really meant, I'd say 5, and maybe meant West Va. at 9?

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that's true...how come I didn't notice that

crazy

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lol at any list without osu number 1.

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Meh, I can see an argument for putting someone else (maybe Auburn). With OSU, PSU ran on them fairly effectively, which, for a team that couldn't run on Akron and got destroyed by ND, is not good. Smith also looked bad (yeah, he had one awesome pass, but otherwise he was off). Ginn is great but he has the catch the punts before he can be a returning threat (see: Michigan game last year).

Now, everyone has a bad game or two, that may well have been theirs. And they still look pretty good. But you can make a case that they still have some unknowns/weaknesses at this point (who doesn't). Finally, while their win over Texas was impressive, we also don't know how good Texas is. They're probably at least a Top 15 team, but beyond that, still not sure. So their credentials are as good as anyones, but I don't know that they are far and away the best team at this point. Seeing how they (and Michigan) do against the middling, somewhat threatening but not dangerous teams of the Big Ten (Iowa, MSU) will help sort things out.

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they beat number 2 team, national champs, on the road.

you think they had a bad game against psu? they gave up 6 pts. psu couldnt do [censored] when it mattered. psu is a tough team. remember last year. they have most of that team back, esp on d. this is big game for these teams and will always be close, no matter rankings or skill. ultimately tho, psu hung with them but osu outplayed them thoroughly in the end when it mattered. switch the first quater with the 4th and would we be having this argument?

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lol at any list without osu number 1.

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USC > OSU

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they beat number 2 team, national champs, on the road.

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They beat a trumped up ranking, Vince Youngless + first year QB...don't make it out like they just knocked off some team that is a threat to a BCS game. If it weren't for their weak conference they wouldn't have a chance at a one of the non-BCS big bowls but we shall see. I am not knocking OSU by knocking UT, please understand this.

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UGAg is not a top 10 team. They've played a IAA school, two of the worst DI teams, and a scrappy UAB team.

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psu is a tough team. remember last year. they have most of that team back, esp on d.

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They lost their best offensive player and most of their offensive line.

They lost their D-Line and entire secondary. They returned 4/11 starters on defense.

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they beat number 2 team, national champs, on the road.

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So they played the 2005 National Championship Texas squad? No? It's the 2006 team. Well, that's all the same thing as long as Texas hasn't lost any key players to graduation...someone who made their entire offense go, basically...nope, can't think of one. You win.

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you think they had a bad game against psu? they gave up 6 pts. psu couldnt do [censored] when it mattered. psu is a tough team. remember last year.

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Again, the teams change year-to-year. Penn State is, for reasons I mentioned, not good. Morelli is TERRIBLE. They make mistakes left and right. As with Texas, Robinson the QB really made the offense go. Moreso, really, since Texas had a very good O-line too, whereas PSU really doesn't have so much going on around him.

That being said, yeah, of course you can make a case for them at number 1, and quite possibly the best case. But pretending it is an easy, open-and-shut case is ridiculous.

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'Tone,

Just b/c you hate UGA doesn't mean you have to be a hater!

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they beat number 2 team, national champs, on the road.

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They beat a trumped up ranking, Vince Youngless + first year QB...don't make it out like they just knocked off some team that is a threat to a BCS game. If it weren't for their weak conference they wouldn't have a chance at a one of the non-BCS big bowls but we shall see. I am not knocking OSU by knocking UT, please understand this.

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Texas is still better than Nebraska, USCs best win

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bottomset,

No team has looked liked they belonged on the same field as them, not a very good Nebraska team nor a tough Arkansas team. An overrated though better win against Texas doesn't make me rank them higher b/c of schedule timing b/c still when I watch the games USC looks like the best team in the country.

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b/c still when I watch the games USC looks like the best team in the country.

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it's hard to argue with this... USC has looked very good in the games i've watched. I do think you (and everyone else) is way overrating the SEC though, i really doubt they have 4 of the best 8 teams in the country.

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psu is a tough team. remember last year. they have most of that team back, esp on d.

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They lost their best offensive player and most of their offensive line.

They lost their D-Line and entire secondary. They returned 4/11 starters on defense.

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off-topic: good news for you PokerFink. I saw real promise from the Nittany Lions this last week. In the fourth quarter, their offensive line took over. There were good holes for the RBs and time for Morelli. That was a real positive considering how thoroughly tOSU's defense dominated previously. The inexperienced group is gelling well.

Now, if their d-line can catch up, and if Morelli could make progressions in his reads, they'll be a force. By the end of the year, this should be a team that no one wants to face. Unfortunately, they'll have to quicken the pace to hand Michigan and even the road game at Minnesota (whose run attack matches-up well v the PSU d right now).

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1. USC
2. Ohio State
3. Auburn
4. Michigan
5. Florida
6. Louisville
7. LSU
8. West Virginia
9. Texas
10. Georgia
11. Tennessee

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lol at any list without osu number 1.

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I'm a UM fan and even I agree with this. Seriously, wtf.

National Championship game has been moved up this year 7 weeks to November 18.

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lol at PSU having everyone back on D. The whole secondary and 3/4 of the front have been replaced. The only returning starters are the LBs and Johnson

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And don't forget that Posluzny is coming of knee surgery and may or may not have lost a step or two. This year's PSU team is nowhere close to last year.

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lol at any list without osu number 1.

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lol at subjectivity

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Wait, when did Nebraska become very good? Did I miss something? Are we back in 1995? Did that Alamo Bowl squeaker over 7-5 Michigan convince you?

I think USC is fine, but I hardly think they are the best, maybe borderline top 5. But, as I've said before, way too little to judge thus far. We can start going all transitive (Arkansas barely beat Bama, but Bama hasn't looked good, etc), but really, that's not going to tell us enough at this point.

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UGAg is not a top 10 team. They've played a IAA school, two of the worst DI teams, and a scrappy UAB team.

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I hate UGA, but who else? I tried to keep them out, but couldn't. And I won't agree with Iowa.

EDIT: Since when is South Carolina one of the worst D1 teams?

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UGAg is not a top 10 team. They've played a IAA school, two of the worst DI teams, and a scrappy UAB team.

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I hate UGA, but who else? I tried to keep them out, but couldn't. And I won't agree with Iowa.

EDIT: Since when is South Carolina one of the worst D1 teams?

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When they almost lost to Wofford

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"And don't forget that Posluzny is coming of knee surgery"

he didnt have surgery.

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not who I'd vote for in an AP method
not any ranking equation

from what i've seen with my very own 2 eyes


1. Auburn
2. Ohio State
3. USC
4. LSU
5. Louisville
6. Texas
7. Florida
8. Michigan
9. Louisville
10 Georgia

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I think Michigan & Florida should be ahead of Texas & Louisville for sure. I'd argue ahead of LSU but that will all take care of itself in 2 weeks. I would put WVU in place of UGA as well.

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not who I'd vote for in an AP method
not any ranking equation

from what i've seen with my very own 2 eyes


1. Auburn
2. Ohio State
3. USC
4. LSU
5. Louisville
6. Texas
7. Florida
8. Michigan
9. Louisville
10 Georgia

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I think Michigan & Florida should be ahead of Texas & Louisville for sure. I'd argue ahead of LSU but that will all take care of itself in 2 weeks. I would put WVU in place of UGA as well.

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lol.

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OSU
Auburn
USC
Michigan
Florida
West Virginia
LSU
Texas
Louisville (without brohm)
Georgia


Btw, to the guy who said that Chad Henne having manningham AND breaston (he's not a good wide receiver) was a bonus....might have to take breaston's name off the list (yes, im a michigan fan)....he's an exceptional kick/punt return man, but a mediocre receiver at best...his main threat is the WR screen/swing pass

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damaniac,

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Wait, when did Nebraska become very good? Did I miss something? Are we back in 1995? Did that Alamo Bowl squeaker over 7-5 Michigan convince you?

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It depends on what you define very good as. The top 3 teams (USC, Auburn, OSU--which is very subjective IMO) are incredible, 4-10 range from great on into the very good range and 11-20 are very good teams. Nebraska is clearly a very good team. If you look at how many teams there actually are in this nation, to be in the top 15-20 (which is about their range right now, I see it going up as the year rolls on) means they are obviously better than more teams than teams that are better than them by a very large margin.

Sure they didn't beat LSU but we are a few weeks into the season and how I refuse to take points off for not playing BCS contenders each of the first few weeks, that simply doesn't make sense. What does make sense is judging the play of each skill position, their overall play on both sides of the ball, and how they played in accordance to the competition. Well, Booty has been basically error-free and superb and their running backs have been splitting time at 7 yards a carry. The skill positions are the best around as usual. They are dominating both sides of the ball, the first half against Arizona has been the first time they have been below average all year. And as far as the competition goes, you argue Nebraska and Arkansas but those two games were tougher than the majority of the Top 10's overall already played schedule...and how they did, well they dominated.

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I think Auburn's conference and the silly SEC Title Game may prevent them from going undefeated... while USC and the twinkie Pac-10 will only help them.

OSU should coast until November 18th.

Should be a fun season. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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while the pac10 isn't as strong as the SEC, it's not twinkie either. kudos to all the pac10 for playing a true round robin and scheduling hard out of conference match-ups.

SC played at Arkansas, Nebraska at home, and still has Notre Dame on their non-conference schedule. Add games verse Cal and Oregon, plus a solid corps of decent teams. Other than Stanford, the pac10 doesn't really have 'off' weeks. Tough not to respect it.

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they beat number 2 team, national champs, on the road.

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They beat a trumped up ranking, Vince Youngless + first year QB...don't make it out like they just knocked off some team that is a threat to a BCS game. If it weren't for their weak conference they wouldn't have a chance at a one of the non-BCS big bowls but we shall see. I am not knocking OSU by knocking UT, please understand this.

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Texas is still better than Nebraska, USCs best win

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We'll see about this Oct. 21.

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not who I'd vote for in an AP method
not any ranking equation

from what i've seen with my very own 2 eyes


1. Auburn
2. Ohio State
3. USC
4. LSU
5. Louisville
6. Texas
7. Florida
8. Michigan
9. Louisville
10 Georgia

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I think Michigan & Florida should be ahead of Texas & Louisville for sure. I'd argue ahead of LSU but that will all take care of itself in 2 weeks. I would put WVU in place of UGA as well.

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lol.

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what?

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The big difference is that I wouldn't even put Texas in the top 11-12 and this will be evident October 7th.


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You cant be serious? if OU cant stop uab, wash or oregon you think they will be able to stop Texas?

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Bluff Daddy,

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Standard.

Tell me why you think your team is so good? Colt McCoy? Just know that UAB and Oregon are in another stratosphere when comparing University of North Texas and Rice. Keep blowing out some of the worst teams in the entire nation, trump up your wins then knock a rival for barely losing--well actually getting [censored] with no lube is what happened--to a ranked team and winning a close game to a team known to play ranked teams close/tough every year. Yeah, that makes a ton of sense [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img].

EDIT: Oh I almost forgot, I can't wait for them to play Sam Houston St. this week...if only they could add Texas St. they would have the clean sweep and have played the worst teams in the state.

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Bluff Daddy,

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Loc: Texas

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Standard.

Tell me why you think your team is so good? Colt McCoy? Just know that UAB and Oregon are in another stratosphere when comparing University of North Texas and Rice. Keep blowing out some of the worst teams in the entire nation, trump up your wins then knock a rival for barely losing--well actually getting [censored] with no lube is what happened--to a ranked team and winning a close game to a team known to play ranked teams close/tough every year. Yeah, that makes a ton of sense [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img].

EDIT: Oh I almost forgot, I can't wait for them to play Sam Houston St. this week...if only they could add Texas St. they would have the clean sweep and have played the worst teams in the state.

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Bet?

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I think Auburn's conference and the silly SEC Title Game may prevent them from going undefeated... while USC and the twinkie Pac-10 will only help them.

OSU should coast until November 18th.

Should be a fun season. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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The Pac 10 is probably going to end up ranked as the toughest conference in the nation.

There are far more "twinkies" in the SEC than there are in the Pac 10.