Folding AK pre-flop
 

In limit hold'em, is it ever correct to fold AKo or AKs pre-flop? If so, when, why or why not?

-J

Re: Folding AK pre-flop
 

SSH says in a tight game you should fold AKo to 3bet.

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SSH says in a tight game you should fold AKo to 3bet.

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Just adding that this would be a raise and re-raise in front of you. If you raise AK and someone 3-bets I can't see it being correct to fold.

Re: Folding AK pre-flop
 

I won't even fold it to a 3 bet to be honest with you, maybe against very tight raisers in early position in a full ring game...

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I won't even fold it to a 3 bet to be honest with you, maybe against very tight raisers in early position in a full ring game...

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Agreed. I fold to a cap most of the time, though.

Re: Folding AK pre-flop
 

I play SH - AK is the nuts on every street.

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I've folded AKo 2x PF, both live, once when I opened, it was 3 bet and capped, w/ 2 coldcallers behind them. Then when it was raised and 3-bet in front of me by 2 tight unimaginative players. I think that I would have seen the flop if it was suited.

So yeah, it can be correct, but not very often.

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I would never fold AKs even too a cap, but AKo depending on game situation.

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SH I never fold AKo.

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I fold it with a 3-bet with cold caller in front of me or if it is capped in front of me

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For those of you who say "never", ask yourself what the raiser and 3-bet ranges are. Put yourself in the 3-bettor's position-- what is your raising range against the original raiser? For a fairly tight raiser (say a 2/4 game with a generic 16/6 player), a 3-bet range of TT+, AQs+, AKo might be typical. How does AKo fare against that 3-bet range? We dominate AQs, and are crushed by AA and KK, while most of the range we are coin-tossing with. Even if you pokerstove it and decide it has enough equity, what's your plan postflop?

The way I see it, if I have respect for both raisers ahead of me, AKo doesn't have enough equity to make it a must-play, and I don't see how I'm going to outplay my opps with it (since both a cold-call of 3 and a cap give me pretty narrow ranges too, and we're assuming respectable opps, who might be thinking about our range).

Luckily, it's a really rare case that I respect both raisers, so I almost never fold AKo. But I play live, where two good opponents is rare itself.