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Kratzer 09-20-2006 01:26 PM

Quitting Everything
 
I know nobody cares, but I'm posting this because I think it will help me get started and in the end accomplish my goal.

I'm looking for some tips/advice/gameplan for quitting a number of my vices.

I'm looking to quit the following
-weed
-caffeine
-cigs

I use all three of these everyday. I think quitting all at the same time is too dificult, so I'm doing one at a time. So far my plan is to go cold turkey, then use the remaining vice(s) as a crutch to get me through the rough times.

I'm starting with the weed, because that will make the biggest change in my life. I have a bit of herb left, so I'll finish that today and officially start tomorrow.

This will suck....

Tennenbaum 09-20-2006 01:28 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
Oh lord. Good luck to you sir.

I gave up cigs in Jan.
I gave up weed a few weeks ago
I will kill someone if I give up caffeine

And recently (since giving up weed) and being under a TON of stress in my personal life have snuck a few cigs so as to not completely go insane.

It's hard, but I wish you the best of luck.

kipin 09-20-2006 01:30 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
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I have a bit of herb left, so I'll finish that today and officially start tomorrow.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sure you will.

If you want to quit, just quit now, don't make up some imaginary future date that you will quit on.

Give your weed to someone, or throw it away.

highlife 09-20-2006 01:30 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
just curious. can you tell us why you are quitting each of the three. I guess its usually kind of obvious but sometimes people have very specific reasons.

Suigin406 09-20-2006 01:32 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
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I have a bit of herb left, so I'll finish that today and officially start tomorrow.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sure you will.

If you want to quit, just quit now, don't make up some imaginary future date that you will quit on.

Give your weed to someone, or SELL it away.

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italianstang 09-20-2006 01:33 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
Weed is tough, when its around its almost impossible to turn down. If you go about four days without smoking weed though you will notice a significant increase in your ability to concentrate and find that you can get up in the morning without feeling so tired.

Good luck, its not easy.

Suigin406 09-20-2006 01:34 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
try giving up weed or cigs first, caffiene is prolly the least harmful to ur system, so u'll prolly increase caffiene intake while trying to kick the other habits...good luck...

FortunaMaximus 09-20-2006 01:36 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
I run into the herbal conundrum once a year or so.

Just kick, man. Hibernate for a week. Drink water. Eat more.

Cigs and caffeine? Never mind. Life's too short.

Edit: Well, I did give up smoking for 8 months. One degenerate misstep and off goes the tl;dr.

Big Poppa Smurf 09-20-2006 01:37 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
i've recently started a diet, which is good because i've already lost like 12 pounds in a month. unfortunately since i'm a little girl and i used to eat to self-medicate, i now smoke a lot to make up for not eating all the time. GOOD TRADE BPS

TiK 09-20-2006 01:37 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
Man, this thread and the other coffee thread is making me want to have a nice big cup of Turkish coffee and a few cigarettes to smoke while I drink it and read the paper. I miss coffee and cigarettes. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

FortunaMaximus 09-20-2006 01:38 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
Ooh. Great Turkish coffee that eats spoons.

Oh. Sorry.

DMBFan23 09-20-2006 01:46 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
Here's a weird one, I gave up chapstick end of my senior year of college ~3 years ago.

I was addicted to the point where my lips got dry and cracked without it, and it sucked pretty hard. I just went cold turkey during exams, and drank a crapload of water and took a crapload of hot showers (man that steam really softens up your lips) during that week. one day I woke up, and my lips were fine, overnight. it rocked. I now use chapstick occasionally (snowboarding, ultimate frisbee) and I'm fine.

b00000000000m 09-20-2006 01:49 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
Exercise a lot. Beyond the natural high that will make you feel better, exercising promotes healthier brain activity -- you will have more control over your choices and desires.

Perplexity 09-20-2006 01:55 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
Cigarettes are way, way worse for you than the others. Quit smoking tobacco first.

b00000000000m 09-20-2006 02:01 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
You're right, although weed promotes a general apathy and weakness of will. Once you quit weed, you will be in a better mental frame to stop smoking cigarettes and caffeine.

blinden84 09-20-2006 02:05 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
I used to be massively addicted to asprin. It started when I got my braces in middle school, my teeth would ache like crazy, so I would load up on the asprin. It started with 2 every night, and then I started taking it during hte day, and was eventually up to 4/hour just to not be in pain. I would go on asprin binges where I would do about a bottle every 2 days for about 3 weeks straight, and when I stopped, I would have a massive 4 day headache.

I now occasionally use asprin for severe headaches only.

Kratzer 09-20-2006 02:11 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
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just curious. can you tell us why you are quitting each of the three. I guess its usually kind of obvious but sometimes people have very specific reasons.

[/ QUOTE ]

I guess i'm quitting for the obvious reasons. I'd like to be healthier (or healthy in general) and gain back some energy and motivation. I used to run frequently before I started smoking cigs, and I'd like to start doing that again. Plus most chicks don't like guys who smoke, so that's a plus when I quit cigs.

I'm choosing weed first because I think it will be the easiest (not saying it will be easy). Plus when i quit smoking herb, i'll probably be more motivated to quit the others. I love love love coffee, and I'm not looking forward to quitting that, but I know I drink way too much and I should stop.

Now that I think about it I will quit coffee second, so that I can still enjoy the greatest combo ever: coffee and cigarettes....mmmmm...delicious.

Thanks for the support everyone

highlife 09-20-2006 02:16 PM

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Cigarettes are way, way worse for you than the others. Quit smoking tobacco first.

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not really....

"Marijuana abuse also has the potential to promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract because it contains irritants and carcinogens. In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke. It also induces high levels of an enzyme that converts certain hydrocarbons into their carcinogenic form—levels that may accelerate the changes that ultimately produce malignant cells. Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which increases the lungs' exposure to carcinogenic smoke. These facts suggest that, puff for puff, smoking marijuana may be more harmful to the lungs than smoking tobacco."
http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html

Kratzer 09-20-2006 02:18 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
don't turn this into a flamewar concerning the health effects of weed versus cigarettes. let's just all agree that they're both bad

Tennenbaum 09-20-2006 02:19 PM

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don't turn this into a flamewar between the health effects of weed versus cigarettes. let's just all agree that they're both bad

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seconded

FortunaMaximus 09-20-2006 02:21 PM

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don't turn this into a flamewar between the health effects of weed versus cigarettes. let's just all agree that they're both bad

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Indeed. And weed's far easier to quit on physical dependency issues alone than nicotine is.

You could sidestep into nicotine gum too. Sure, it tastes horrible, but cigarettes aren't a bounty of taste anyway. That said, I've had my last cigarette for awhile. Thanks, OOT.

sightless 09-20-2006 02:21 PM

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Why on earth would someone want to quit weed?

cliff 09-20-2006 02:22 PM

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I would keep caffeine, weed is not hard to quit, smoking is the hard one. your brain may explode if you try all three at once, imo. Plus the caffeine keeps you fired up for the gym, which I think is key to quitting smoking. That was my experience anyway, I needed to keep one vice for sanity.

Tennenbaum 09-20-2006 02:22 PM

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Why on earth would someone want to quit weed?

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Because I have to take a drug test for my second job that I get. Plus I'm pretty broke as of late. I'm going to see how it goes for a bit. I guarantee I'll smoke again at some point. But perhaps just not every day like before.

highlife 09-20-2006 02:25 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
just curious. can you tell us why you are quitting each of the three. I guess its usually kind of obvious but sometimes people have very specific reasons.

[/ QUOTE ]

I guess i'm quitting for the obvious reasons. I'd like to be healthier (or healthy in general) and gain back some energy and motivation. I used to run frequently before I started smoking cigs, and I'd like to start doing that again. Plus most chicks don't like guys who smoke, so that's a plus when I quit cigs.

I'm choosing weed first because I think it will be the easiest (not saying it will be easy). Plus when i quit smoking herb, i'll probably be more motivated to quit the others. I love love love coffee, and I'm not looking forward to quitting that, but I know I drink way too much and I should stop.

Now that I think about it I will quit coffee second, so that I can still enjoy the greatest combo ever: coffee and cigarettes....mmmmm...delicious.

Thanks for the support everyone

[/ QUOTE ]

cool, good luck.

I know some people are saying not to quit coffee because its not that bad. Thats true to a point, but if you want to start exercising more than just casually, you would be alot better off lowering your caffiene intake and get your energy and "high" from those endorphines pumping.

27offsuit 09-20-2006 02:58 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
Have you considered a rollback on consumption amounts?

Just do like 1/10th of all three.

1 smoke a day (if you need it)
1 coffee a day
1 J a week


Much more attainable long term results, IMO.

Good luck.

xwillience 09-20-2006 03:07 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
Ive never been a smoker but this would be my gameplan....

1) get the patch

2) whatever method you get yoru caffiene, switch to decaf. This was hard for me... I was taking 2000mg dosses of Excedrin and drinking a [censored] load of water. It only took about a week for the head eaches to stop tho.

3) DONT quit smoking weed for like a month after you quit smoking. It could help with the oral fixation and help relax you. Weed was the easiest to quit... there were no side affects except for being slightly more motivated and not having to stress over piss tests. eventually just phase this out or you may decide without the other two that weed is okay in moderation...

CardSharpCook 09-20-2006 05:46 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
I quit cigs and weed on the same day over five years ago. Since then, I've never relapsed, but gained pleasure from time to time rolling my own cigs and smoking without inhaling. Usuaully while drunk, because I can't stand the smell and taste anymore. GL, sir. For me, I had about 1.5ozs left when I quit and gave that to my brother and a friend along with an impressive batch of hash. I was ready to quit. My last cigarette I smoked was at Comerica Park (Detroit Tigers). The last joint was in this dumpy motel just outside of Niagra Falls.

nath 09-20-2006 06:37 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
This is funny for me to read because I've finally started regularly smoking weed again (after a 10 month hiatus) but I'm trying to cut back / quit a few of my other vices, specifically cigarettes and cocaine.

I spent the weekend in Austin for Austin City Limits music festival and I did so much walking around in the sun that I got more exercise and was more detoxified than I think I'd ever been. I didn't even want to smoke cigarettes after that. (Of course, last night I ran into a high school friend and we partied and all of that quickly got out of hand again.)

But in general, drink lots of water, and (especially) exercise, and you really won't WANT to smoke cigarettes anymore. They all take some time and persistence, though, but it can be done.

bobhalford 09-20-2006 07:18 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
It took me several tries to quit smoking. I got some patches for free by calling 411 in NY. I quit maybe 4 or 5 times using the patch. Each quit lasted about 3-10 days. Then in January I quit cold turkey and have been smoke free ever since. I would suggest the patch, because once you have the patch on, you don't really want to smoke.

You have to really want to quit to do it. I hated being a smoker and I smoked way too much. If I could smoke 5 cigarettes a day, I probably wouldn't have bothered quitting. But my smoking was really affecting my quality of life, so it ended up not being all that difficult to quit. I just love being a non-smoker now for a million different reasons. It's good to keep reminding yourself of all the good things that happen when you are a non-smoker.

I can't imagine spending the rest of my life without weed so I can't comment on that.

Kratzer 12-17-2006 10:20 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
UPDATE:

complete failure. i probably smoke less cigs now, but i am definitely consuming more of the others. i suck

http://www.darlingtonschool.org/deve.../willpower.gif

MercifulZidane 12-17-2006 11:17 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Cigarettes are way, way worse for you than the others. Quit smoking tobacco first.

[/ QUOTE ]

not really....

"Marijuana abuse also has the potential to promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract because it contains irritants and carcinogens. In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke. It also induces high levels of an enzyme that converts certain hydrocarbons into their carcinogenic form—levels that may accelerate the changes that ultimately produce malignant cells. Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which increases the lungs' exposure to carcinogenic smoke. These facts suggest that, puff for puff, smoking marijuana may be more harmful to the lungs than smoking tobacco."
http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html

[/ QUOTE ]

The majority of people that smoke cigarretes smoke A LOT, and EVERY DAY. Chronic marijuana users are much more rare.

GreywolfNYC 12-17-2006 11:32 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Cigarettes are way, way worse for you than the others. Quit smoking tobacco first.

[/ QUOTE ]

not really....

"Marijuana abuse also has the potential to promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract because it contains irritants and carcinogens. In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke. It also induces high levels of an enzyme that converts certain hydrocarbons into their carcinogenic form—levels that may accelerate the changes that ultimately produce malignant cells. Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which increases the lungs' exposure to carcinogenic smoke. These facts suggest that, puff for puff, smoking marijuana may be more harmful to the lungs than smoking tobacco."
http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html

[/ QUOTE ]

The majority of people that smoke cigarretes smoke A LOT, and EVERY DAY. Chronic marijuana users are much more rare.

[/ QUOTE ]
Yeah, I don't think too many people smoke 30 joints a day. Well, maybe Willie Nelson but not too many others.

HossTheBoss 12-17-2006 11:34 PM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
roll up the weed, and ignite the fire

Wes Mantooth 12-18-2006 12:30 AM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
to my understanding an average person loses the physical need for cigarettes after 11 days... the first week or so is very difficult.

tboss888 12-18-2006 12:34 AM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
Thread title was misleading. I thought it was going to be more along the lines of

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Blarg 12-18-2006 01:25 AM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
Good luck. Careful not to overindulge in one vice and take it to a critical level because of the stress of quitting another vice. It's kind of easy to do that and can be really dangerous.

beenben 12-18-2006 01:38 AM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
my brother quit smoking after several tries by reading this book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Allen-Carrs-.../dp/0140277633

scraggs 12-18-2006 01:50 AM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
i've finally kicked smoking (haven't had one in over a year now) and it took MANY tries. i know how hard it is. what was probably the impetus this time is that i smoked a shitton one day (like 2 packs) because i was stressed out and that gave me a terrible heart arrhythmia that sent me to the ER. my heart's fine, but the doc said that smoking, coupled with the stress and caffeine i was also abusing made it happen. scared me so much that it got me to finally quit.

you'll need nicorette (at least i did). they have a nice new flavor called fresh mint and another one with a fruit candy-coated shell. both taste better than the old nicorette which tasted like ass. use that, keep the willpower, and you'll get there. also, do not hang around others who smoke (if possible) and NEVER drink with smokers, there's no way to avoid falling back into the habit if you do that. good luck

AZK 12-18-2006 01:54 AM

Re: Quitting Everything
 
From my understanding of drugs and addiction (limited) I would quit the weed first, cigarettes second and coffee 3rd. I would make sure you don't up cigs to compensate for weed. Drink as much coffee as you like, it's really not going to make one difference or another. You should be able to quit weed cold turkey. Depending on your mentality/strength cigarettes can go one of two ways...It really depends how mcuh you smoke... How much did you used to smoke weed? How many cigs a day? How many cups of coffee a day? If you need any incentives for the cigs drop me a line and I can describe with pictures all of the lungs/body parts of the cadavers who were smokers that I got to see in my first year anatomy class.


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