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Surprised noone has commented on the two perfect flops Prahlad got for his sevens and nines and managed to lose both hands. Granted he made a nice laydown when techno hits his straight, but weren't either one of these hands a better spot to reraise/make a stand than the A3??

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i love shoving 50bb w/ 9s and 7s. post-flop plays are for cash game donkies and have no place in high buy-in tournaments.

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Not saying shove, but it went check-check, check-check, then Gold raises the river and Prahlad folds his sevens. Why even call the raise preflop? Can you really expect to play a pot with the big stack and check it all the way down?

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Not saying shove, but it went check-check, check-check, then Gold raises the river and Prahlad folds his sevens. Why even call the raise preflop? Can you really expect to play a pot with the big stack and check it all the way down?

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I think Gold led out on the flop. Also, I'm sure Prahlad makes that call all day long in most cash games against most opponents. It's a little different for 1/3 of your stack with 20 left in the ME.

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If you're the type of player who thinks "OMG overpair = nuts", then yeah, Prahlad looks a little odd. Golds flop bet in the first hand could either be a continuation bet, or a higher pocket pair. The turn is just about the last card SR wants to see though. His river bet could either be the Ace that hit, or value betting a better PP. I mean, i commend Gold for the way he played it. Whether he read Prahlad for a mid PP or not, his line looked pretty standard for those holdings.

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If you're the type of player who thinks "OMG overpair = nuts", then yeah, Prahlad looks a little odd. Golds flop bet in the first hand could either be a continuation bet, or a higher pocket pair. The turn is just about the last card SR wants to see though. His river bet could either be the Ace that hit, or value betting a better PP. I mean, i commend Gold for the way he played it. Whether he read Prahlad for a mid PP or not, his line looked pretty standard for those holdings.

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Not at all. Gold's river action with a mid PP would have been to c/c. And as aggressive and unimaginative as Gold had been playing, I don't think he goes for a c/r on the turn if he pairs AK/AQ. Based on his previous playing, he would likely have pushed in that scenario. The bluff worked, but it was not a good one.

I don't commend any of Gold's playing. After the cardplayer coverage, I wanted to wait and form an opinion about the guy based on what I saw on TV. Not only was the beneficiary of a sick heater that covered up his bad playing, but some of his table-talk was downright unethical. Aside from constantly talking about the strength of his hand with multiple people still left to act, the incident where told his Commerce buddy he WOULD NOT have called his all-in if he knew the guy was BEHIND is really offensive and I would have been very upset about that if I were at the table.

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The call he made after the flop in the 99 hand made me want to puke. At that point he was no longer playing to win; he was playing to move up one spot in the money.

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LOL tourney donks.

Prahlad played VERY well.

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Not saying shove, but it went check-check, check-check, then Gold raises the river and Prahlad folds his sevens. Why even call the raise preflop? Can you really expect to play a pot with the big stack and check it all the way down?

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I think Gold led out on the flop. Also, I'm sure Prahlad makes that call all day long in most cash games against most opponents. It's a little different for 1/3 of your stack with 20 left in the ME.

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Gold did not lead that flop, in fact you could tell on Friedman's face he was not happy the Ace hit the turn and regretted not betting the flop.

OP,
I think it's unfair to criticize a player who's thinking about poker is way above yours or mine. He probably had a plan for that hand which backfired, I'm not going to critcize his play because he understands far better what is going on at that table than I do.

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I thought while watching it that his plan was to pick off a bluff but that he lost his nerve to pull the trigger on the river, which is what he said afterward.

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If we don't question plays by better players how do we learn? FWIW I think you have to constantly adjust your plan based on flop, action, etc. If this wasn't a perfect spot to take a stab at the flop, I don't know what is.

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Gold did not lead that flop

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Yes he did.

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prahlad was playing to move up one spot in the money.

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you have got to be [censored] kidding

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Gold did not lead that flop

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Yes he did.

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If this wasn't a perfect spot to take a stab at the flop, I don't know what is.

7s was up against utg chip leader.

9s were against tag betting into 2 people (no idea why he was raising k-6os preflop middle position).

flop calling is pretty standard.

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prahlad was playing to move up one spot in the money.

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you have got to be [censored] kidding

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Do you have any idea who Prahlad is? If you did you would realize how stupid this comment.

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i had a tight image, and was raising EP, not MP. i was raising to steal the blinds, at that point, and happened to catch a good flop i could also bet out to take down.

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Gold did not lead that flop

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Yes he did.

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Thanks. That's what I thought. It went c/bet, call; check, check when the A hit; bet, fold.

The only reason PF doesn't call on the river with his hand is because of the bet size in relation to his chip stack and the chance Gold backed into the A. As I said earlier, PF probably makes this call all-day in a cash game when he can reload.

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i had a tight image, and was raising EP, not MP. i was raising to steal the blinds, at that point, and happened to catch a good flop i could also bet out to take down.

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I don't know what the chip situation was exactly, but why did you push the turn? Do you regret that at all?

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i had a tight image, and was raising EP, not MP. i was raising to steal the blinds, at that point, and happened to catch a good flop i could also bet out to take down.

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I don't know what the chip situation was exactly, but why did you push the turn? Do you regret that at all?

[/ QUOTE ]I wondered this as well. I think either a check or a smaller bet would've been better, although obviously we saw the cards. Were you afraid of a flush draw or set(FH draw)?

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i had around 2/3 pot, so i thought it was a fine time to bet. given that board, i thought the likelihood of a check behind was too great for me to get tricky.

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fwiw, i think prahlad played great poker from what i saw.

on this particular hand (77s v Gold), i think he should've taken a stab at that turn. i mean, i know he didn't want to get bet off the best hand, but if he was going to fold to a river bet, then i think he should've stabbed at the turn.

if gold called and check the river, then we get to a showdown cheaply. i basically think he saved himself a 250k turn bet by playing that a little weak/tight. but he could've won a nice pot (maybe).

and doug, fwiw, i liked that K6o hand. you probably could've bet 1/2 your stack on the turn and pushed any river. i know its higher variance but its > cEV. he might have called that bet. it depends on what you put him on obv. anyway, i probably would've pushed too... nh.

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i had around 2/3 pot

[/ QUOTE ]ah, I didn't know this at all. No problem with your play then imo. Really wish ESPN would let us know more of the details.

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and doug, fwiw, i liked that K6o hand. you probably could've bet 1/2 your stack on the turn and pushed any river.

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If you have 2/3rds the pot left in your stack, and you bet half of it, you might as well sound some alarm bells.

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Surprised noone has commented on the two perfect flops Prahlad got for his sevens and nines and managed to lose both hands. Granted he made a nice laydown when techno hits his straight, but weren't either one of these hands a better spot to reraise/make a stand than the A3??

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surprised wha??!?