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booger 09-19-2006 04:47 PM

bears vs vikings
 
I have been a vikes fan since 1967. Yes 39 years of purple despair. Brad Childress has done a good job with the team trying to right the ship with discipline. Brad Johnson is a good fit for the vikes for now and I'm actually interested in what Tarvaris Jackson will do in the future. The emphasis, finally, on improving their defense is a welcome sign.
Vikes have done a good job winning on the road vs the redskins (05 playoff team) and at home vs carolina (05 playoff team). The biggest test will be da bears. The bears have a better O and D. For the vikes to win they will have to win the turnover battle. Vings offense has been average at best.
I fear the bears will wear down the vikes.
Anyone elso thinking Bears/Ravens possible superbowl. I know it's extremely early.
Anyway, thoughts??

kyro 09-19-2006 04:50 PM

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While I've been impressed with the Bears and Ravens, I'd like to see them beat teams other than 4 of the worst 6 teams in the NFL right now.

I see the Vikes keeping it close, but I don't think they score enough to win.

Pudge714 09-19-2006 05:19 PM

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With HFA I could see this game being close, the bears have beaten up on two bad teams, I'd like to see them play a good team.

Case Closed 09-19-2006 05:26 PM

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Pudge714 09-19-2006 05:32 PM

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Case Closed 09-19-2006 05:47 PM

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Works for me. Back to the Bears V. Vikings thread.

MyTurn2Raise 09-19-2006 07:27 PM

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I almost bet on the Bears big here, but remembered how the dome can be a house of horrors. I think that's the only thing preventing a double-digit win for Chicago.

CharlieDontSurf 09-19-2006 08:00 PM

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The only thing I see giving the Bears an advantage is the Bears DESTROYED two bad teams. Minn barely squeaked by two teams that were hyped to be good..but in fact are average at best.

MacGuyV 09-19-2006 08:52 PM

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In my view this game's a virtual coinflip so I like the Vikings getting points at home. While I am a fan of Grossman and his ability, he's really gone from largely an unknown to showing he can produce vs. a horrible team on the road and a below average team at home. A slightly above average team on the road with a pretty good defense in a noisy stadium is a big step to take for a young QB. It sounds so pointless and cliche, but this game especially is just whoever turns the ball over less wins.

Colonel Kataffy 09-19-2006 10:18 PM

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Just saying that you'd like to see the bears win against a good team is so meh... Hell, why not just wait till after the superbowl to predict a superbowl winner.

That being said:

The bears played and beat some good teams last year w/o any passing game, now that they do have a passing game, there is good reason to think they are a much better team than they were last year.

As far as this game goes, even though road games suck. The bears seem to do well on indoors. I think this defense is a turf defense, much the same way Warner/Faulk rams were a turf offense.

MacGuyV 09-19-2006 10:29 PM

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I think this defense is a turf defense, much the same way Warner/Faulk rams were a turf offense.

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Not flaming, but this sounds very much like something John Madden would say.

MyTurn2Raise 09-20-2006 12:04 AM

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well...it's a turf defense because turf emphasizes speed and that is where the Bears, specifically Urlacher, excels.

IlliniLou 09-20-2006 02:17 AM

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http://snl.jt.org/arc/epskit/91-11-23-4.jpg
umm Ditka 85, Vikings 2

Shajen 09-20-2006 08:38 AM

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My only concern is the two really really bad teams the Bears have played this year have both been able to have a successful running game against them. If the Bears were not 25+ points ahead, those teams would have been able to grind down the D with the running game and get some points...they couldn't because of the lead the Bears jumped out to early in the games.

That said, the Vikes and Bears always play really tough against each other, as Divisional rivals should. I do believe the Bears are a better team, and if they can get to B Johnson, it will be a very very long day for the Vikes.

I won't bet on the Bears, as they are my team, but I do expect them to run the table this year in the North.

Final score:

Bears 24 Vikings 14

Colonel Kataffy 09-20-2006 11:07 AM

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Anyone elso thinking Bears/Ravens possible superbowl. I know it's extremely early.

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My only problem with this, is both QB's have health issues.

Brian707 09-20-2006 11:57 AM

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While I've been impressed with the Bears and Ravens, I'd like to see them beat teams other than 4 of the worst 6 teams in the NFL right now.

I see the Vikes keeping it close, but I don't think they score enough to win.

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The Bears didnt beat two bad teams they destroyed them.

Bears 20 Vikings 10

miajag 09-20-2006 11:58 AM

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My only problem with this, is both QB's have health issues.

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I'm a big Ravens fan and would obviously love to see them in the Super Bowl, but they need to beat some good teams to prove they're for real. So far they've crushed one team that was supposed to be good but it turns out might be bad (Tampa Bay) and one positively awful team (Oakland). They didn't look good at all against Oakland; against any other team in the league that game would have been a lot closer.

kyro 09-20-2006 12:21 PM

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While I've been impressed with the Bears and Ravens, I'd like to see them beat teams other than 4 of the worst 6 teams in the NFL right now.

I see the Vikes keeping it close, but I don't think they score enough to win.

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The Bears didnt beat two bad teams they destroyed them.

Bears 20 Vikings 10

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I'm aware of that. I wasn't knocking them, and right now I think they may even be the best team in the NFC. I was just reminding people not to start screaming SB matchup immediately after Week 2 because 2 teams have looked good against absolutely terrible opponents.

Case Closed 09-20-2006 03:10 PM

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It seems as though this Bears bandwagon will fill up quickly. Don't worry MyTurn2Raise we will always keep some room for you if you come around.

Sluss 09-20-2006 04:31 PM

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well...it's a turf defense because turf emphasizes speed and that is where the Bears, specifically Urlacher, excels.

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I almost bet on the Bears big here, but remembered how the dome can be a house of horrors. I think that's the only thing preventing a double-digit win for Chicago.

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MyTurn2Raise 09-20-2006 05:15 PM

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lol...I can be as objective as the next guy, especially if I think about betting the game. That doesn't mean however that I don't feel a Bears/Ravens superbowl might just signal the death of the NFL as sport. (Actually, I think the Cowboys titles in the 90s did that already, but that is a whole other crazy stance I have.)

xorbie 09-20-2006 05:38 PM

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SD is better than baltimore.

kyro 09-20-2006 05:58 PM

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I didn't know people were debating the other way around.

MyTurn2Raise 09-20-2006 07:13 PM

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The bears comeuppance happens October 16th beyatches

lastchance 09-20-2006 07:27 PM

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The bears comeuppance happens October 1st beyatches

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Seattle at Chicago, Sunday Night. w00t.

booger 10-01-2006 11:42 PM

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bears and ravens still look good


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