Party Blackjack - kickass Promo
 

http://www.partycasino.com/news/prom...artyhours.html

Party is paying 2:1 on blackjack for the next 3 days (possibly 6, there's conflicting info on their site) between 6:00 and 7:00 PM EST. This adds 2.27% of player advantage to the -.55% of their basic game, making a 1.72% player advantage game. Assuming 600 hands an hour, your expectation is just over 10 units for the hour.

Why am I posting this here instead of Internet Bonuses? Because that forum is full of risk-averse pussies. BBV is where the real gamblers hang out.

So who here has the balls to bet $200/hand for an hour in a grossly +EV situation?

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"If the dealer also has Blackjack you will not win and you will only be returned your Stake."

isn't this a big deal in the other direction?

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Good bye bankroll, I'll miss you. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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There is zero chance this won't be rigged. I can't wait for all the busto posts.

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I'm pretty sure PPBJ is like 70/30 for the house, not the 50.5/49.5 you claim. I have 200k hands to support this.

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"If the dealer also has Blackjack you will not win and you will only be returned your Stake."

isn't this a big deal in the other direction?

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I'm not sure what your question is. It's always a push when you have BJ vs a dealer BJ.

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If the dealer also has Blackjack you will not win and you will only be returned your Stake."

isn't this a big deal in the other direction?


standard rule

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If you bet $25 a hand. Whats the +EV/hour for this game?

I dont think I can bet more as a 200nl player.

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... 10 Units still aka 250$

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... 10 Units still aka 250$

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thx, Whats the variance? Like $2000?

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... 10 Units still aka 250$

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thx, Whats the variance? Like $2000?

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People don't discuss things like variance and risk of ruin in BBV. They whip out their big hairy balls and slap people in the face with them.

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I have the bankroll/nerve for $200 a hand...it's what I bet when I'm bonus whoring anyways....is it truely +EV? I might be doing this for a few days if it is [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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... 10 Units still aka 250$

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thx, Whats the variance? Like $2000?

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standard deviation of blackjack = 1.2 (standard blackjack is 1.155, I'm assuming the SD is slightly higher because of the 2:1 BJ payoff)

SD 600 hands = 1.2*sqrt(600) = 29.4 units

Expectation = +10.3 units

So

65% chance of finishing between -19.1 units and +39.7
95% chance of finishing between -48.5 and +69.1
99.7% chance of finishing between -77.9 and +98.5

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... 10 Units still aka 250$

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thx, Whats the variance? Like $2000?

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[gay math not suitable for BBV]

standard deviation of blackjack = 1.2 (standard blackjack is 1.155, I'm assuming the SD is slightly higher because of the 2:1 BJ payoff)

SD 600 hands = 1.2*sqrt(600) = 29.4 units

Expectation = +10.3 units

So

65% chance of finishing between -19.1 units and +39.7
95% chance of finishing between -48.5 and +69.1
99.7% chance of finishing between -77.9 and +98.5

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awesome thanks for the info

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is there a strategy sheet anyone here can reccomend/link to maximize ev on this?

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google

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wizardofodds.com

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is there a strategy sheet anyone here can reccomend/link to maximize ev on this?

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Just follow the dealer strategy. Hit on less than 16, and stand on 17 or higher. You won't be giving up too much.

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how did you calculate the player edge given these rules?

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is there a strategy sheet anyone here can reccomend/link to maximize ev on this?

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Just follow the dealer strategy. Hit on less than 16, and stand on 17 or higher. You won't be giving up too much.

[/ QUOTE ]that can't be optimal strategy.

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there is no excuse for not following a card when trying to make money here. wizardofodds.

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is there a strategy sheet anyone here can reccomend/link to maximize ev on this?

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Just follow the dealer strategy. Hit on less than 16, and stand on 17 or higher. You won't be giving up too much.

[/ QUOTE ]that can't be optimal strategy.

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its a lot better than doing it by instinct, but a card is better. esp when betting 200$ units.

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how did you calculate the player edge given these rules?

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I guessed.

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Wtf is the dealer strategy? If it involves hitting a 12 when the dealer shows 5 or a 6 it cant be that great.

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is there a strategy sheet anyone here can reccomend/link to maximize ev on this?

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Just follow the dealer strategy. Hit on less than 16, and stand on 17 or higher. You won't be giving up too much.

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its a lot better than doing it by instinct, but a card is better. esp when betting 200$ units.

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It's actually quite a lot worse than doing it by instinct, unless your instincts are really terrible.

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Btw, does anybody feel by instinct that standing with TT is good vs a dealers 6? I can just never understand that.

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is there a strategy sheet anyone here can reccomend/link to maximize ev on this?

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Just follow the dealer strategy. Hit on less than 16, and stand on 17 or higher. You won't be giving up too much.

[/ QUOTE ]that can't be optimal strategy.

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its a lot better than doing it by instinct, but a card is better. esp when betting 200$ units.

[/ QUOTE ]if you had only a $30k roll would u be willing to bet so much?

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i would bet 200 per hand on a 30k roll for sure.

200*50=10k. 95% chance of not losing more than 10k. EV is 2k.

i have a 6k roll, i'll be doing $50 bets for sure.

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Sorry, I should have posted some of this earlier in anticipation of a glut of questions.

Q: <blah blah blah blah> gambling question <blah blah>
A: Wizardofodds.com almost certainly has the answer

Q: Which game does this promo apply to?
A: According to party, it is their Blackjack-Single Player game with a max bet of $200. Their terms explicity exclude thier Blackjack - High Limit game. I have no idea if Blackjack - Single Deck or Blackjack - Multi player apply.

Q: Strategy Card for Party blackjack?
A: Party uses 8 decks. Resplit up to 4 hands. Double after Split (DAS). Double on Anything (DOA). Hit on Soft 17 (H17). Late surrender allowed. Use the right hand card at

http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/strategy/4deck.html

If you can't interpret this card, do not participate in this promo. You will probably lose money and whine about it later

Q: How'd you calculate the house advantage of party's game without the 2:1 promo?
A: http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/ho...alculator.html

Q: How'd you calculate the player advantage that the 2:1 promo adds?
A: http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack

Q: What is my EV of this promo
A: 1.71% * number of hands you play * amount wagered per hand

For 600 hands an hour, this is about 10 units. So if you bet $100 a hand, you can expect to earn $1,000

Q: What is the chance of me losing $x
A: From an earlier post
65% chance of finishing between -19.1 units and +39.7
95% chance of finishing between -48.5 and +69.1
99.7% chance of finishing between -77.9 and +98.5

ie ... this promo isn't for the risk averse.

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party rigged this promo to run during my classes and force me to take a zero on a quiz.

Party could show up to my door and hand me 5k and I will still find a way to hate them because this is what they are doing right now.

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did anyone click terms and conditions. under that, it says the promo runs until the 25th. as i cant play the next three days, this could matter a little more to me.

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did anyone click terms and conditions. under that, it says the promo runs until the 25th. as i cant play the next three days, this could matter a little more to me.

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As I said, there is conflicting info on their site. In one spot they say the 19th-21st, the other they say 19th-25th. I doubt party even knows which is correct.

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shall be in for $200/hand all the hours!

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if you guys are correct this would be the best promo ever. I don't see it being discussed in other parts of the site yet. Might wait till the results get in from tomorrow night. g/l those that try it.

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wouldn't it be better to play 5 hands per round against the dealer? wouldn't this greatly increase your hands/hour?

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I'm gonna multitable this b*tch!

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can someone better explain bj variance for those of us who don't know?

what's the time # of hands for these calculations?
[65% chance of finishing between -19.1 units and +39.7
95% chance of finishing between -48.5 and +69.1
99.7% chance of finishing between -77.9 and +98.5]

or am I thinking of it wrong?

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I'm gonna multitable this b*tch!

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Holy [censored], I had no idea that you could multitable their blackjack! 1000 hands an hour here I come

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it wouldn't help. hand rate is a function of your mouse clicking speed. you aren't waiting on other people.

multitabling would probably lower your hand rate.

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when does this start and end?