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PokerGoD69 09-16-2006 03:45 PM

Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
I have been doing a lot of poker coaching lately, and a lot of my players have this problem. They want to win this very hand they have no patience. This has to be changed. Larry W. Philips writes in his book <u> Zen and the Art of Poker </u> :

"Poker Rule #9: Dont fall into the Now Trap.

New paper headline:
Man is impatient! Refuses to wait! Must win now--Not in a half hour! Not intrested in winning a half hour from now! Must happen now! Doesnt have time to wait!

"This headline could apply to many of us in poker. There is great attraction in all aspects of the modern age with immediacy. It is very seductive in its lure. Likewise, most of the trouble in poker occurs through this love affair with the "now"--with impatience, with trying to hurry up the game. Players want to win NOW, today. Results mush happen now, in this hand, the one right in front of us. We love the Now. We are devoted to it, infatuated with it, and give it much weight."

The moral is we must be patient, and not fall into the now trap. Of course everyone wants to win right NOW, but that doesnt make unplayable hands playable, and unprofitable situations profitable. Many of my students, feel that they can play second tier hands and win, please dont fall into this trap.

PokerGoD69 09-16-2006 03:46 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
bump

True 09-16-2006 03:47 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
how long does it take to get enough 25nl players to quit playing poker and just coach?

True

Spy Dog 09-16-2006 03:48 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
Nice bump one minute after you posted this. Try the Psychology forum.

PokerGoD69 09-16-2006 03:49 PM

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how long does it take to get enough 25nl players to quit playing poker and just coach?

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I play 5/10 NL.

Jamougha 09-16-2006 03:51 PM

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how long does it take to get enough 25nl players to quit playing poker and just coach?

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I play 5/10 NL.

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LMAO

Shaddux 09-16-2006 03:52 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
I like to raise 23s utg.

PokerGoD69 09-16-2006 03:52 PM

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how long does it take to get enough 25nl players to quit playing poker and just coach?

True

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I play 5/10 NL.

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LMAO

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Put your money where your mouth is lets play HU 5/10 NL.

True 09-16-2006 03:52 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
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how long does it take to get enough 25nl players to quit playing poker and just coach?

True

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I play 5/10 NL.

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LMAO

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hmmmm i didnt realise 5/10 was soft

ahhh wait, live right?
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True 09-16-2006 03:53 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
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how long does it take to get enough 25nl players to quit playing poker and just coach?

True

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I play 5/10 NL.

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LMAO

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Put your money where your mouth is lets play HU 5/10 NL.

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How many buyins do you want to lose?

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Dan Bitel 09-16-2006 03:53 PM

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how long does it take to get enough 25nl players to quit playing poker and just coach?

True

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I play 5/10 NL.

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LMAO

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Put your money where your mouth is lets play HU 5/10 NL.

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dooooo it

PokerGoD69 09-16-2006 03:54 PM

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how long does it take to get enough 25nl players to quit playing poker and just coach?

True

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I got 27 on party and 23 on stars take your pick.

I play 5/10 NL.

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LMAO

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Put your money where your mouth is lets play HU 5/10 NL.

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How many buyins do you want to lose?

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Jamougha 09-16-2006 03:54 PM

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how long does it take to get enough 25nl players to quit playing poker and just coach?

True

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I play 5/10 NL.

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LMAO

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Put your money where your mouth is lets play HU 5/10 NL.

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Sure, I play on FTP. aim = Jamougha, let's do it.

PokerGoD69 09-16-2006 03:55 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
ok lets do it ill deposit on there again right now.

True 09-16-2006 03:57 PM

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ok lets do it ill deposit on there again right now.

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BUSTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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allaboutmyfetti 09-16-2006 03:57 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
fawk I wanan bike hoem just to sweat this. is this going on?

Mercman572 09-16-2006 04:00 PM

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how long does it take to get enough 25nl players to quit playing poker and just coach?

True

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I play 5/10 NL.

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LMAO

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Put your money where your mouth is lets play HU 5/10 NL.

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Sure, I play on FTP. aim = Jamougha, let's do it.

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What time you playing????!! This guy is the next VP.

True 09-16-2006 04:00 PM

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Jam hit up aim mate

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PokerGoD69 09-16-2006 04:03 PM

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how long does it take to get enough 25nl players to quit playing poker and just coach?

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15 minutes im just depositing on ftp cuz i dont play there

I play 5/10 NL.

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LMAO

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Put your money where your mouth is lets play HU 5/10 NL.

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Sure, I play on FTP. aim = Jamougha, let's do it.

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What time you playing????!! This guy is the next VP.

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Jamougha 09-16-2006 04:07 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
We are negotiating, he says he ahs money on stars. We have been arguing over whether I should trust him in a transfer from stars/ft/

Spy Dog 09-16-2006 04:09 PM

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We are negotiating, he says he ahs money on stars. We have been arguing over whether I should trust him in a transfer from stars/ft/

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Please don't trust him.

True 09-16-2006 04:09 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
PokerCod, yesterday you were playing 2/4nl, you just thought 5/10 was easy?

Who do you coach?

What do you teach them?

In raised and re-raised pots be worried of 2 pair on boards like 2K5?

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Brent. 09-16-2006 04:10 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
Keep us updated, please.

Shaddux 09-16-2006 04:12 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
zomg I thought you would be playing on ft then I could watch.

Mercman572 09-16-2006 04:21 PM

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We are negotiating, he says he ahs money on stars. We have been arguing over whether I should trust him in a transfer from stars/ft/

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Please don't trust him.

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If he were to trust you, that would be fair as you've shown good character over the long period of time you've been here. He has not.

chesspain 09-16-2006 04:23 PM

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Nice bump one minute after you posted this. Try the Psychology forum.

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Not on my watch.

allaboutmyfetti 09-16-2006 04:23 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
what's goin on fellas, is this happening or what?

Mercman572 09-16-2006 04:32 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
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We are negotiating, he says he ahs money on stars. We have been arguing over whether I should trust him in a transfer from stars/ft/

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Please don't trust him.

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Oh yea, Stars cashouts are instant (up to the amount you deposited). So what's the problem with him cashing out and depositing at Full Tilt?

Jamougha 09-16-2006 04:32 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
LMAO guy is a scumbag, scams me for $500 and leaves

Mercman572 09-16-2006 04:34 PM

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LMAO guy is a scumbag, scams me for $500 and leaves

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[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] You trusted him????

allaboutmyfetti 09-16-2006 04:35 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
wtf wat happened

Jigsaws 09-16-2006 04:36 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
details?

Spy Dog 09-16-2006 04:37 PM

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LMAO guy is a scumbag, scams me for $500 and leaves

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I hope this isn't true. What is his screen name?

kitaristi0 09-16-2006 04:38 PM

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wtf?

Jamougha 09-16-2006 04:39 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
He has no $ on FT, says he has $ on PS. I want to transfer 5k to stars anyway so eventually we sort out a deal where I send him 500, he sends 5k and I send the rest. Eventually I send the 500 and he... disappears lol. What a retarded little prick.

ImsaKidd 09-16-2006 04:40 PM

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LMAO guy is a scumbag, scams me for $500 and leaves

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Why the hell did you transfer him money. please let "scam" mean "hit and run"

allaboutmyfetti 09-16-2006 04:42 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
Jam -

I know you already know this ... but why are you transferring 5 bills to someone with 25 posts. I thought HE was gonna transfer you 500, how did this even transpire.

What a douchebag. Can't mods cross-check the IP addresses he logs in with with existing posters (*cough* AK?)

kslghost 09-16-2006 04:42 PM

Re: Dont Fall into the \"Now Trap.\"
 
Jam, I thought you were smarter than this. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Jamougha 09-16-2006 04:43 PM

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Jam, I thought you were smarter than this. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Haha, I dithered about it for ages but I quite wanted to put some $ onto stars. Sigh.

Spy Dog 09-16-2006 04:44 PM

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He has no $ on FT, says he has $ on PS. I want to transfer 5k to stars anyway so eventually we sort out a deal where I send him 500, he sends 5k and I send the rest. Eventually I send the 500 and he... disappears lol. What a retarded little prick.

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You should at least email FT support and show them this thread. Not sure if that would help but it may red flag him in their system.


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