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we know that a family cannot inheret a persons debt, so if im going to commit suicide prett soon, why dont i max out all my credit cards and take out a bunch of loans and then give the money to my family and friends? why dont more people do this? will the feds come to my family and demand that they give the money back that i gave them before i died to the credit card companies and banks? what if theyve already spent it? thanks for any knowledge on this topic, my family and friend eagerly await your responses.

keepin it real,

ren

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why dont more people do this?

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because people dont like committing suicide?

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why dont more people do this?

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because people dont like committing suicide?

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Dont bash it before you try it. It's pretty fun.

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my family and friend eagerly await your responses.

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So your family and friend knows that you're going to kill yourself? This is called "retarded." Oh yeah, it's called Fraud too.

I feel bad for your family.

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well for starters most people who commit suicide aren't in the right frame of mind and don't think about their deaths as a way to help others.

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You think you're miserable now? What happens when you aren't sucessful in your attempt?

I've been there...things don't always work out as planned. If it isn't your time to go then *something* will go wrong and all you will have accomplished is making your life worse.

Remember the guy in LA that parked his SUV on a commuter train track, pussied out and jumped clear of the vehicle only to live to answer to killing a bunch of people in the train wreck he caused?

Death will come eventually, dude...just be patient til your number is up. That's the only guarantee we have in life.

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You think you're miserable now? What happens when you aren't sucessful in your attempt?

I've been there...things don't always work out as planned

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Man, to go through with attempting to kill yourself you probably sucked at life.
To attempt to kill yourself and fail, you have to be in the top 99 percentile of people who suck at life.

Gun, in throat, aim up.

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if you are going to commit suicide get professional help. it is not an easy thing to do and things can go wrong.

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Lol Seether. Talk about things you know nothing about often? I'm happy for ya that you have no clue about any suicidal mindsets.

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I have a feeling this thread is going in the wrong direction.

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if you are going to commit suicide get professional help. it is not an easy thing to do and things can go wrong.

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nh sir

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I have a feeling this thread is going in the wrong direction.

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Sure is...but it looks like the OP was answered anyway. If friends/family know then it's fraud. If they don't know, then they'll have a cupla hundred bucks once to offset their remaining lifetime of empty birthdays, anniversaries, family holidays, random memories, etc.

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I have a feeling this thread is going in the wrong direction.

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Sure is...but it looks like the OP was answered anyway. If friends/family know then it's fraud. If they don't know, then they'll have a cupla hundred bucks once to offset the next 50+ empty birthdays, anniversaries, family holidays, random memories, etc etc etc.

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Don't forget funeral costs!

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Q: Why don't most people that are locked on their decision to commit suicide get psychological treatment, just to see what happens because there's nothing to lose, only to gain (even if they believe it to be mostly meaningless)?

A: Because again, they are not in the right frame of mind to behave rationally.

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Q: Why don't most people that are locked on their decision to commit suicide get psychological treatment, just to see what happens because there's nothing to lose, only to gain (even if they believe it to be mostly meaningless)?

A: Because if they're done with this life, got enough out of it, and are ready to move on, it is -EV to engage in an activity that could possibly make their lives longer.

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FYP

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Q: Why don't most people that are locked on their decision to commit suicide get psychological treatment, just to see what happens because there's nothing to lose, only to gain (even if they believe it to be mostly meaningless)?

A: Because if they're done with this life, got enough out of it, and are ready to move on, it is -EV to engage in an activity that could possibly make their lives longer.

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FYP

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So you're on the depressive side of your bipolar disorder, I see.

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So you're on the depressive side of your bipolar disorder, I see.

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Never said that's how I feel NOW. Simply pointing out how far off base your "answer" was. I didn't even address the faulty assumptions in the question to start with.

I have no plans whatsoever to try to check out early, but I've been there off and on in the past from ages 10-35. I therefore have a more solid than usual understanding of said mindset. Much of what people say on this topic (not just on this thread) is said from a perspective nowhere remotely close to one that'd make sense to the person they're trying to communicate with. It's like you're using Level 0 thinking to beat a Level 3 table and have no clue how far off base you are. That's all, and it's not meant as an insult. It's a good thing to be ignorant about in your own life...but you're not going to help a damn thing in someone else's by spewing out said ignorance.

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So you're on the depressive side of your bipolar disorder, I see.

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Never said that's how I feel NOW. Simply pointing out how far off base your "answer" was. I didn't even address the faulty assumptions in the question to start with.

I have no plans whatsoever to try to check out early, but I've been there off and on in the past from ages 10-35. I therefore have a more solid than usual understanding of said mindset. Much of what people say on this topic (not just on this thread) is said from a perspective nowhere remotely close to one that'd make sense to the person they're trying to communicate with. It's like you're using Level 0 thinking to beat a Level 3 table and have no clue how far off base you are. That's all, and it's not meant as an insult. It's a good thing to be ignorant about in your own life...but you're not going to help a damn thing in someone else's by spewing out said ignorance.

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I take it that irritability is also common in bipolar.

Arguing the merits of suicide is ignorant when death is not imminent, Dr. Phil.

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there are approximately 16 suicide attempts to every completed suicide.

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Never said that's how I feel NOW. Simply pointing out how far off base your "answer" was. I didn't even address the faulty assumptions in the question to start with.

No, Crayzee's barking up the right tree. I've got no overwhelming objections to euthenasia for the terminally ill, but mental suffering, despite it's terrible ubiquity when you're depressed, is a terrible reason to end your life.

Depression cuts you off from a genuine experience of life and human love. When I was depressed (4+ years, bitches), I often thought that I would be better off dead (paging tuq), but the fact is, as long as there are any options, you're better off alive.

Existence has a lot to offer, and death will offer you no relief, because you won't be there to savor it.

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but this depends on an individual's religious conviction, and more importantly, the degree of their conviction...

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Sort of like the odds of getting dealt a pocket pair.

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but this depends on an individual's religious conviction, and more importantly, the degree of their conviction...

Not really. Whoever you are now will be different in 15 minutes, but at least your brain and body will provide some context and an illusory sense of continuity. When you're dead, that's gone. As your brain shuts down, the components of your reality will detach and wither and disappear. Then you're dead.

The pieces of your personality, your memories, your experience of being embodied, your thoughts, your sense of self and of your history of life is gone.

Whether you're reborn when Jesus comes back, reborn in a new karmic reality or reduced to dust, it's over. The you that you're attached to now, that you love because it's YOU is as irrelevant then as the you that starred in your mama's sonogram.

The hopelessness of depression is a physical and mental disease, and it reduces your perspective to your suffering. There's more to life, there's more to your life, and most people really benefit from getting help.

If there's an afterlife, what's your hurry?
If there's not an afterlife, what's your hurry?

You, the you you are now, only gets one go around.

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you are clearly agnostic (or an athiestic fool). if you are indeed agnostic, you admit that it is unquantifiably possible (even if in your own opinion, improbable) that your scientific desription of death is not wholly accurate. i.e., there really are 70 virgins waiting in heaven to be eternally [censored], or whatever your own religious convictions describe.

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who is to say, that our memories are gone? Perhaps the flying spaghetti monster absorbs the memories into his metatentacles and we are reborn as a meatball with memories, bound by eternal savory meatsauce pleasure.

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you admit that it is unquantifiably possible (even if in your own opinion, improbable) that your scientific desription of death is not wholly accurate. i.e., there really are 70 virgins waiting in heaven to be eternally [censored], or whatever your own religious convictions describe.

Of course it's possible for the afterlife to be anything, but if you realize that the christian and muslim versions of the afterlife (for saved or unsaved people) are eternal, endless and keep going on and on and on, then delaying your entrance to that afterlife by 5 or 20 or 80 years is nothing. The ratio of any lifespan (16 years or 120) to infinity gets all asymptotic towards 0.

you are clearly agnostic (or an athiestic fool).

No, I'm not agnostic or athiest. And athiests aren't fools, they're just unconvinced. If you were smarter, more perceptive or more thoughtful, you might be able to convince them.

But that's unlikely to happen in this lifetime.

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you beat me before i edited. not that it mattered,

if I believe the afterlife is eternal pleasure, and my life sucks right now, I don't care if the next 50 years are negligible on an infinite scale. 50 years is 50 years and I'd rather be having eternal sex.

and I do believe athiests are fools. failing to admit the mere possibility of a god or an afterlife or opther metaphysical ideas is foolish. you can't prove them; there's no evidence to support them; but there is no evidence to disprove them, so it's possible. hence the agnostic idealogy.

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and I do believe athiests are fools. failing to admit the mere possibility of a god or an afterlife or opther metaphysical ideas is foolish. you can't prove them; there's no evidence to support them; but there is no evidence to disprove them, so it's possible. hence the agnostic idealogy.

They admit the possibility, since you can't prove the non-existence of God/a god/gods/karma/maya/tao/xenu/whatever, but in a universe that's 12 billion years old are skeptics supposed to get all jazzed up about beliefs generated by primitive cultures 20-30 centuries ago?

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If someone wants to kill themself who gives a shyt let them. Ive heard of people who had their whole entire family killed and they commited suicide when they found out, That is a rare situation that I can sympathise with. But when some whiny pussy wants to kill themself for no good reason (like all those NYU students playing roof jump to road kill) I couldnt give a [censored].

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"and I do believe athiests are fools. failing to admit the mere possibility of a god or an afterlife or opther metaphysical ideas is foolish. you can't prove them; there's no evidence to support them; but there is no evidence to disprove them, so it's possible. hence the agnostic idealogy. "

This would go both ways, would it not? If that's your argument, then everybody is a fool. If I'm a fool for not believing in what I can't disprove, aren't you also a fool for believing in what you can't prove?

Either way, it's kind of pointless to argue it in any case, wouldn't you agree?

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All the other issues aside, I believe that your estate DOES keep it's debt. This is why credit card companies have riders you can get that will pay off balance or suspend payments if you are killed or disabled. It's not a given, it costs extra. And I doubt it pays if you commit suicide.

If you're an old person, it makes a lot of sense to get credit cards with this kind of rider and spoil the crap out of your grandchildren. Your credit is great, and they can't discriminate on the basis of age.

If this is your brilliant plan, why not just get a $5M term life insurance policy before you off yourself? You have just as good of a chance of seeing that money as you do of having your debt erased.