Party Lobby is CPU hogging beyond control - help plz
 

Hey guys,

The party lobby has been hogging my CPU beyond control. It seems to take control of all my computer's resources and in cycles, making playing almost impossible. The mouse becomes sluggish and the lobby doesn't refresh itself for long spurts.

I have a solid machine 3Ghz w/ 2 gigs of ram.

If anyone has any tricks to optimize the lobbies performance or any workarounds, it would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Jeff

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I'm experiencing the same problems. Works fine at first but after a while partygaming.exe is using 98% of the CPU which makes for lots of problems. PT can't keep up with the importing, PAHud doesn't update the stats and often doesn't even show them. Mouse movements become sluggish and sometimes the screen freezes for 5+ seconds.

I would be really grateful for some kind of solution to this as well. I'm already using Demonster btw but that doesn't help very long.

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That can happen on a low-end machine and also on mahcines with certain video cards and certain video configurations.

Try this:

Under "Game Rules & Options" / "Video & Audio Options", turn off (uncheck) everything, especially "Chip & Card Movement".

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I have a solid machine 3Ghz w/ 2 gigs of ram.

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I dont know if this applys.

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That can happen on low-end machines

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If turning off the video/audio options didn't help, then phone Party tech support.

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It seems it might be a problem with Party + Poker Tracker + PAHud.

I am also using a couple of AHK scripts like you. Perhaps we can try isolating the problem by disabling one of the supporting applications at a time while playing.

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Try installing Process Guard and blocking Party from hooking your keyboard. If I remember correctly this helped quite a bit. Party is still a resource hog but not quite as bad...

Also try DeMonster...

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is there a way to get rid of the monster # counter in the party lobby?

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is there a way to get rid of the monster # counter in the party lobby?

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DeMonster

Set:
dm_hide_lobby_jackpot = 1

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thnx a lot!

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Can party's CPU hogging somehow be related to PAHud?
Everything is working fine for me when i'm using Yuks handgrabber and importing from 12 tables at once but when i start up PAhud and start playing things go haywire.

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I'm not sure... it's going haywire for me and I tried disabling/re-enabling PAHud.
Because of this SNG Opener is not working for me.
This is becoming frustrating.... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Try using the beta version of PA Hud. Version 1.14 has some CPU issues for some people.

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I've always had similar issues with Bodog...

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The Party memory leak only exists while playing...

You can datamine forever and the CPU should be reasonable but once you start playing it'll slowly starting creeping up. This has nothing to do with PAH.

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I contacted party support and here's what they gave me. Suffice to say I followed their step-by-step solution and it didn't change anything.

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In order to resolve this issue please follow the steps mentioned below:

1. Do a disk clean up.

To carry out a Scan Disk follow the appropriate steps below for your version of Windows:

Microsoft Windows ME or Microsoft Windows 98 or Microsoft Windows 95

1. Click Start, click Run and type 'scandisk' in the
run box and click 'Ok'.
2. In the scandisk window select the drive that you
wish to be checked.
3. Choose the option between 'standard'
and 'through'. It is recommended you run standard
first, if you encounter issues with scandisk then
run the 'through' scan.
4. Finally click 'Start' to begin scandisk.

Microsoft Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000

1. Double Click the 'My Computer' icon.
2. Right Click on the drive that you wish to scan and then click on 'Properties'.
3. Click on 'Tools', and then on 'Check Now'.
4. Click on both options and then on 'Start'.

Once you have completed the above mentioned steps please follow the steps mentioned below to uninstall and reinstall in a different folder.

As I understand, you are experiencing difficulties accessing our site. In order to resume playing you will need to uninstall and then reinstall our software.

IMPORTANT: Before you uninstall the software ensure you copy the Notes.txt file from the installation folder on to your desktop.
1) Close all Windows.
2) Right click on the 'PartyPoker' icon on the desktop.
3) Click on 'Properties'
4) Click on the 'Find Target' button
5) Double click on the PartyPoker folder
6) Right click on the 'Notes' file and click on 'Copy'. Close all the windows.
7) Right Click on the Desktop and click on 'Paste'

If you do not save it, the notes you made through the "Add Player Notes" option will be lost.

To uninstall the software:
1. Click 'Start', point to 'Settings', click on 'Control Panel', and then double-click on the
'Add/Remove Programs'.
2. Select 'PartyPoker', and click on 'Change/Remove' to remove our software from your system.
3. From your desktop delete the 'PartyPoker' icon.
4. Open 'My Computer' and browse to "C:\", then delete "C:\PartyGaming" folder (unless you renamed it something different when you installed it the last time).
5. In 'My Computer', open "C:\Program Files" where you will see another folder called 'PartyGaming', delete this folder also.

To reinstall the software:
1. Go to our website, click on "Click here to download and play now" to download the software.
2. Save the setup file to the desktop.
3. Double-click on the saved setup file to start the installation procedure.
4. Change the default installation directory from "C:\Program Files\PartyGaming" to "C:\PartyGaming".

Once you have reinstalled the software you will have to add the Player Notes:

->Right click on the Notes.txt file that you saved on the Desktop and click on Copy
->Right click on the 'PartyPoker' icon on the desktop.
->Click on 'Properties'
->Click on the 'Find Target' button
->Now the installation folder opens, Double Click on the PartyPoker folder, click on Edit and click on Paste.

We would also recommend you to avoid using other applications while playing on Party Poker.

If you still face any difficulties please e-mail me back and I will be assisting you furhter in resolving this issue.

NOTE: Your PartyAccount username and password are confidential information. No one from the company will ever ask for your password in a phone call or email. Do not respond to any requests that ask for your password.

Navin
PartyPoker Customer Care

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That crap is such a joke. It's their standard line to fix pretty much every problem.

I'm having the same thing: 100% CPU usage. I was using GT+, PartyPlanner, DeMonster and PT while having the problem. I just switched today to PAHUD instead of GT and am still having 100% CPU usage.

Is the problem PostreSQL by chance? This started happening for me right around that time.

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Is the problem PostreSQL by chance? This started happening for me right around that time.

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There is no problem with Postgres; however, Postgres is yet another set of processes that will consume CPU. That is one disadvantage of using Postgres over Access, but I think most will agree the advantages heavily outweight the disadvantages...

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I don't see how. You can have a bigger database. That's pretty much it unless you do all those fancy postgre querries.

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Ok that explains it, didn't think there was a difference between mining and playing 12 tables that's why i thought it was related to PAH in some way.

Soo i guess we'll just have to wait until party fixes their coding?
I'm going to try running process guard though.

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I don't see how. You can have a bigger database. That's pretty much it unless you do all those fancy postgre querries.

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Postgres is also A LOT faster; meaning faster imports and faster stat retrieval...

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Same problem over here. I have PP consuming 80-95% CPU even while NOT PLAYING (3 MHz, 2 GB RAM). It is virtually impossible for me to play and use PT/PAHUD at the same time...

I am starting to think Party is deliberately doing this to force people into not using, as they stated in the e-mail response above, "other applications"...Hope this is not the case, because if it is then bye bye pp

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Same problem over here. I have PP consuming 80-95% CPU even while NOT PLAYING (3 MHz, 2 GB RAM). It is virtually impossible for me to play and use PT/PAHUD at the same time...

I am starting to think Party is deliberately doing this to force people into not using, as they stated in the e-mail response above, "other applications"...Hope this is not the case, because if it is then bye bye pp

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If your Party CPU is that high while not playing then it sounds like you arent using DeMonster. Use DeMonster and see what your CPU usage is then? If you're already using DeMonster how fast is your CPU?

I can say rather confidently that its not deliberate. Its a case of extremely poor design and implementation followed by years of adding things on withouth thinking about performance. To essentially fix the problem, they would need to do a complete redesign and start from scratch...

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Here's another update from Party. *sigh* I can't stand the generic answers. I would be thrilled if they could just reply something like; "Yes. We are aware that the current code base needs to be optimized. However, here are a few possible workarounds that could probably get you up and running smoothly..."

Below is quoted their 3rd reply and my comments regarding it.

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Please understand that it is not network latency issues. It is my local
machine that goes through the slowdown NOT the internet.

I have noticed however that in a bizarre twist the software actually gets
"faster" over time. After about 1 hour of running the software it gets
better. This is quite sporadic however, is there anything that you could tell me that might help me fight a workaround?

Any other ideas what might be the problem?

- Jeff

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----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:10 AM
Subject: Reply From PartyPoker.com [#5808027]


> With regards to your e-mail, we are sorry to learn that your system is
> slowing down. Your system configuration we must admit, is very good and
> you should not have issues of this sort while playing.
>
> We understand that this could be owing to the fluctuations over the
> internet. However, this should slow down only the PartyPoker.com software
> and not your whole computer. If the disk clean up and deleting the cookies
> and temporary internet files does not help, please check the number of
> concurrent programs you are running.
>
> Should that be high, please use as many less programs as you can. This
> should help you. Do get back to us for any further queries and we shall
> assist you.
>
> NOTE: Your PartyAccount username and password are confidential
> information. No one from the company will ever ask for your password in a
> phone call or email. Do not respond to any requests that ask for your
> password.
>
> Srinivas
> PartyPoker Customer Care
>

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Here's another update from Party. *sigh* I can't stand the generic answers. I would be thrilled if they could just reply something like; "Yes. We are aware that the current code base needs to be optimized. However, here are a few possible workarounds that could probably get you up and running smoothly..."

Below is quoted their 3rd reply and my comments regarding it.


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Tell them that Party consumes 40% CPU while having an equivalent amount of tables open on PokerStars only consumes 4% CPU. See what they say then, lol....

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Hahaha... awesome. I'll do that. What's sad though is that it's absolutely true. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I don't see how. You can have a bigger database. That's pretty much it unless you do all those fancy postgre querries.

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Postgres is also A LOT faster; meaning faster imports and faster stat retrieval...

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you guys are right, postgres is faster and all the other stuff you said, but what he was saying is the postgres is running in its own process, it is basically another application running, if you use access PT or whatever, accesses the database in its own process, and doesn't need the overhead of interprocess comunication. In the same process doesn't mean faster, it just means different.

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you guys are right, postgres is faster and all the other stuff you said, but what he was saying is the postgres is running in its own process, it is basically another application running, if you use access PT or whatever, accesses the database in its own process, and doesn't need the overhead of interprocess comunication. In the same process doesn't mean faster, it just means different.

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You're thinking along the right lines but are semantically wrong. Postgres is faster in the sense that you can retrieve larger amounts of data much quicker; however, you are right, Postgres has its own processes and will consume more CPU (hence the reason) it is faster. The overhead of PT communicating with Postgres is marginable. The overhead lies in Postgres' advanced database schema, design, etc.

Anyways, not to argue semantics. I think everyone agrees that Postgres is the much better option for (the hardcore poker player) because of a multitude of reasons.

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Pure guess, technically beyond my knowledge.

I wonder if this has something to do with the problem. Party continually and repeatedly does disk accesses of the files containing the scrolling ads in the lobby – like a few hundred times per second.

3483 8:09:58 PM PartyGaming.exe:1004 FASTIO_QUERY_STANDARD_INFO C:\Documents and Settings\me\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat SUCCESS Length: 311296

3484 8:09:58 PM PartyGaming.exe:1004 FASTIO_QUERY_STANDARD_INFO C:\Documents and Settings\me\Local Settings\History\History.IE5\index.dat SUCCESS Length: 81920

This is repeated over 300 times during 8:09:58 PM and 8:10:44 and 8:11:29, etc., etc.

Info from Filemon by Sysinternals. Maybe somebody who knows more about this stuff than I do would like to take a look.

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If your Party CPU is that high while not playing then it sounds like you arent using DeMonster. Use DeMonster and see what your CPU usage is then? If you're already using DeMonster how fast is your CPU?


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I wrote 3 MHz, but fortunately it is 3 GHz [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Actually I have been using DeMonster from the start (would probably have already left PP...or killed myself by now if I have not found that peice of software [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
However, if i play for an hour or so and then leave the tables, but continue mining CPU usage does not go down.

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I can say rather confidently that its not deliberate. Its a case of extremely poor design and implementation followed by years of adding things on withouth thinking about performance. To essentially fix the problem, they would need to do a complete redesign and start from scratch...

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I am in this case full of admiration for the sales/marketing people of the company developing the software. They have to be real good...almost the same magnitude as the developers SUUUUCK
PS. Thanks for your efforts to make DeMonster better [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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E-mailing and notifying them of the magnitude of the problem is our only hope (I hope I am wrong though), but things may go faster in the right direction if we ALL send complaints. Mine is already sent!

Anyone here has a computer with dual-core processor? I am very curious about whether you also have 80-95% CPU usage while playing and mining, or if it is significantly lower??

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Anyone here has a computer with dual-core processor?

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I do. See my posts above about my problems. I'm about to smash my screen I'm so aggravated.

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I wonder if this has something to do with the problem. Party continually and repeatedly does disk accesses of the files containing the scrolling ads in the lobby – like a few hundred times per second.

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Since the file is static and its being accessed that frequently your computer will cache the file so that it isnt doing a disk read everytime its accessed. In fact the read should take nanoseconds and use no cpu; therefore this shouldnt be the problem. Even if the file wasnt cached, the system would be hung up on the disk I/O which is not CPU intensive...

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Anyone here has a computer with dual-core processor?

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I do. See my posts above about my problems. I'm about to smash my screen I'm so aggravated.

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Does anyone having this problem not have a dual-core CPU? If so, what have you got?

I'm thinking this maybe has to do with the timer-ticks / processor-affinity bug I seem to remember people talking about some time ago...

Personally I never see this, but I only run a single core right now. FWIW usually have 6 XP accounts observing 4 tables each, and play 8-12 on my XP main account.

Also I use Empire - but I would assume the software is just as bugged as the Party client.

dave.

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Hey http://pokeracesoftware.com/forums/i...0b04631ddf.gif. It's quite easy to get things wrong, and live a whole life thinking that http://pokeracesoftware.com/images/avatar.gif likes bananas and http://pokeracesoftware.com/forums/i...0b04631ddf.gif likes apples, when http://pokeracesoftware.com/images/avatar.gif in fact hates those yellow bastards, and you, http://pokeracesoftware.com/forums/i...0b04631ddf.gif, are the one with banana fever. http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5...rom2000uz6.jpg prefer plums.

Perhaps you should go solo with a DeMonster logo? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Adde

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Does anyone having this problem not have a dual-core CPU? If so, what have you got?

I'm thinking this maybe has to do with the timer-ticks / processor-affinity bug I seem to remember people talking about some time ago...

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Interesting...I have dual core and do have the problem.

Anymore info on that bug? A quick google turned up nothing. ..I wonder if setting the affinity to only one processor would help?

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Interesting...I have dual core and do have the problem.

Anymore info on that bug? A quick google turned up nothing. ..

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It was on these forums somewhere, maybe C/T Help, Internet Gambling or here... although I can't find it now that I try with the search function.


From what I can (barely) remember, Party Client uses some timer information from the CPU core for some reason (feeding their RNG?, encryption?), and this timer is not synced between the different cores in a multicore system. When the PartyGaming.exe is moved from one core to another, it finds different values than it is expecting, and freaks, consuming much CPU trying to figure out "what happen?", I think.

The cure is to set "Processor Affinity" to a certain CPU core, which can be done in "Task Manager", similar method to "Set Process Priority" - This command is only available on multi-CPU systems tho, so I can't describe exactly what/where since I only have a single CPU lol [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].


Try poking around with affinity settings and see if it makes any difference - hopefully it does.

But, as I say this was a while ago I saw this posted, and may have been fixed / may be totally unrelated to the current random CPU hogging.

Best of luck,

dave.

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Happy?

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Anyone here has a computer with dual-core processor?

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I do. See my posts above about my problems. I'm about to smash my screen I'm so aggravated.

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Wow, obviously computation power does NOT matter. No new computer for me then [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
Dont smash the screen, its innocent. Send a hate message to party.

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Does anyone having this problem not have a dual-core CPU? If so, what have you got?


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I have a single core, 3 GHz intel, 2 GB RAM