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30/60 hold'em game at the Bellagio.

On the river the board is AT56J with no flush possible. Lady bets out, button raises, lady 3bets and button calls.

Lady turns over T6 for two pair, button turns over KQ for the stone nuts.

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Amazing, I can't believe that would happen at 30/60. People are supposed to respect each other and fold preflop.

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Amazing, I can't believe that would happen at 30/60. People are supposed to respect each other and fold preflop.

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I've told this elsewhere but:

Board is QJ9, I'm holding QQ. I think we go 3 bets on the flop and 2 on the turn (which means I am dead like all the time). She donks the river and as I call (I think) she says "I hope you don't have the one hand that can beat me" and rolls KT... (mind you she's not being a dick, she's just that dumb).

I dare you not to tilt at least a little after that.

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6 handed no limit game. board is AKQJT, no flush possibility. my buddy pushes all in, 3 guys fold, me and other guy calls.

heh. good stuff.

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I think he was commenting on the button not rasing with the nuts.

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Oh, I thought he was commenting on the button chasing a gutshot J for the straight.

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I think he was commenting on the button not rasing with the nuts.

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Oh, I thought he was commenting on the button chasing a gutshot J for the straight.

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Nope, just the call with the nuts.

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I think he was commenting on the button not rasing with the nuts.

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Oh, I thought he was commenting on the button chasing a gutshot J for the straight.

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Nope, both.

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FYP [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] (and thats really what I thought you were pointing out, lol)

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One of my favorite hands- 15-30 at the Bellagio:

I checked the river. My opponents bet with an obvious straight.

I put out two stacks of three $5 chips thinking I'm raising. But, it's obviously just a call.

He turns over his straight. I turn over my check-called Royal Flush and drag the pot.

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i was playing in a B&M and hero bet the river and called the raise from villain. hero tabled a straight flush. shreveport, LA.

hero bragged about his straight flush for hours after that too. telling every new player that sat down how he had gotten one that night. he was so proud.

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i was playing in a B&M and hero bet the river and called the raise from villain. hero tabled a straight flush. shreveport, LA.

hero bragged about his straight flush for hours after that too. telling every new player that sat down how he had gotten one that night. he was so proud.

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Hey man, I suck at making str8 flushes(or any kind of winning hand really). If I ever make a str8 flush I'm gonna brag about it like I won the lottery or something.

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only slightly annoying that someone would keep bragging about it and definitely not post-worthy.

but coupled w/ the fact that he left 1-2 bets on the river, he didn't seem to have much to brag about. he even excitedly announced his hand while flipping it over too so it wasnt from a misread.

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only slightly annoying that someone would keep bragging about it and definitely not post-worthy.

but coupled w/ the fact that he left 1-2 bets on the river, he didn't seem to have much to brag about. he even excitedly announced his hand while flipping it over too so it wasnt from a misread.


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He was excited and wanted to show it down. If he reraised they might fold and he wouldn't get to showdown his straight flush. It probably never occured to him, he can always flip his hand over before he drags the pot.

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If he reraised they might fold and he wouldn't get to showdown his straight flush.

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Precisely.

It probably wouldn't be time wasted to derive a whole model of hold 'em in which the aim is not to maximize cash EV, but to maximize the "psychological showdown value" of getting to be star of the table for a given hand. Showing down the winning hand, any winning hand, is of huge value in this model -- the bigger the hand the better. Of course winning without a showdown, while better than nothing, has less value than winning a smaller pot in a showdown.

This may sound ridiculous, but it's probably not too far from how many B&M SS LHE players approach the game. Think about what the policy prescriptions of such a model would be: call often (because you might win), raise rarely if ever {because you might not get to show down a winner, although a value raise might be OK if you think you'll get called), bluff never.

I would argue that's pretty close to how a naive bad player plays, and such a player may even be maximizing "expectation" in terms of that great feeling when you show down a winner (as opposed to cash expectation of course). Poker's such a great game because playing wrong carries such strong psychological reinforcement!

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I played a hand in the commerce 20/40 game where I raised a guys bet on the river, on a JJ229 board, with J9 and was called by quad 2s. The guy said he was worried about quad jacks.

I also think one bet went in on the turn and two on the flop. And it was limped around preflop as well.

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I saw a 20/40 hand at Borgata, set over set, (Qs and Ts) go 2 bets before the flop, 1 on the flop, 2 on the turn, and 1 on the river. Three ways.

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6 handed Triple Draw 2-7 game 100/200, HU at the river. Can Kim Hua bets, I raise, he 3-bets.... and I call with the stone cold nuts. Whoops.

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I don't have enough fingers to count the times I have called holding the nuts....I like Crown Royal though...

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There was a 3/6 limit hand where the board ended up 55x5x at the river. It was 4 ways after the flop and 3 ways at the start of the river. It went after the river card.. player 1 bet, player 2 fold, player 3 (me) raise, and the reraising ensue putting about 10 more BB into the pot with me going all-in. I proudly showed my AA while he threw down the 5 into the muck hand face up and kept the other card down. The dealer told him to pick up the 5 card and he took the pot. Man was I stupid.

Those were the early days of my career and wished I knew enough to call his hand dead just because he threw that card down. I rememeber the whole table being quiet while he reeled me in. Man was I ignorant. There hasn't been much imporvement since then.

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wished I knew enough to call his hand dead just because he threw that card down

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Trying to use a technicality to win a pot without the best hand is a hallmark of douchebaggery.

Martin

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First time I played B&M, I got about seven bets in on the river with the second-nut flush.

And that wasn't even the dumbest thing that happened that hand.

The lady who was punishing me with re-raises was getting mad about it. She was angrily slamming the table with her chips when she re-raised. At five bets, she shouted at me, "What do you think I have???" Until that point, I hadn't given any thought at all as to what she might have. I decided to only raise it once more.

That only made her madder. I guess she found it disrespectful of me to think that she might be stupid enough to five-bet a hand that wasn't the nuts. As she seven-bet it, she repeated herself, screaming, "What do you think I have???"

I just call. She turns up the nuts, and as the huge pot is being pushed to her, she starts grumbling about me to another player.

I blow up. "What are you mad about? You should be DELIGHTED to have a chump like me in the game." I racked up and left.

I had donated about $700 to the game at that point. I had $300 more on me, that I would've undoubtedly bought in with, in a vain attempt to get even.

But her behavior ran me off, which narrowly takes the prize for "Dumbest person involved in the hand."

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wished I knew enough to call his hand dead just because he threw that card down

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Trying to use a technicality to win a pot without the best hand is a hallmark of douchebaggery.

Martin

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I'd rather win $$$$ and be a douche than letting him have it...but I like money...a LOT.

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Caesars IN:

I have AQ, board is Q97T2. It was HU between myself and another guy. I bet the river, he thinks for a minute, calls and asks "Do you have the Q?"
I say yes and show him AQ. He sighs and says "I was affraid of that" shows me pocket KK and mucks his cards.
Uh, what?

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I played a hand in the commerce 20/40 game where I raised a guys bet on the river, on a JJ229 board, with J9 and was called by quad 2s. The guy said he was worried about quad jacks.

I also think one bet went in on the turn and two on the flop. And it was limped around preflop as well.

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Wouldn't that be a jackpot hand at Commerce?

If so, then "worried" wouldn't be my first thought, plasma TV's would be.

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30/60 hold'em game at the Bellagio.

On the river the board is AT56J with no flush possible. Lady bets out, button raises, lady 3bets and button calls.

Lady turns over T6 for two pair, button turns over KQ for the stone nuts.

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$5/$10 B&M.

Board is A55xx. Two guys take it to 3 bets on the river. Guy 1 has AA, guy 2 has 55.

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"Wouldn't that be a jackpot hand at Commerce?"

commerce 20 doesnt have a jackpot...but for the lower games its aces full beaten...

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Last night, I hold 33, Board 6d2c3s6sJs, I pot the flop and turn & river, I get min-raised to $120 on the river, as I'm about to reach for my chips to push knowing he'll call with his BD flush for $900 more, he says I have 62o you should just call and not push, I'm not greedy. I say okay and sure enough he has 62o and saves me $1000.

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Maybe a month ago, I'm playing with 2 friends who are brothers. Brother1 (B1) has QQ. Brother2 (B2) has Ac-xc. Flop is Qc-5d-7c. B1 bets out, B2 raises, a ton of people come along for the ride, B1 3-bets, B2 just calls, like 4 others call. Turn is a club, now it gets capped. River is the 5c. B1 checks. B2 bets, gets back around to B1 who disgustingly folds to the obvious flush.

Maybe 2 months ago, B1 has AA against some idiot who turned 2-pair on some raggedy board. River pairs the bottom card (no FH). Idiot bets, B1 calls. Idiot shows 2-pair, B1 disgustingly mucks his two pair.

READING IS FUNDAMENTAL

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Board ends up Q-8-9-3-3, no flush possible. First guy checks. Second guy checks. I check behind. First guy shows A-9. Second guy shows A-9.

I muck 9-8.

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I actually went on tilt after winning this hand, it just happened the other night at a 20-40

Me(MP)-88
Button-Jx
UTG-55

I raise preflop.
flop J85(2 spades)- check, I bet, they call.
turn J- check, I bet, they call.
river blank- UTG donks, I raise, button folds(flashes me his J), UTG calls.

I wanted to punch both of them in their stomachs and take $80 from their stacks. I mean how did the turn not go at least three [censored] bets god damn it.

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Let's not forget the lady playing stud who calls a bet on the river, when she can't beat the trips that were showing.

"I wanted to see what he had."

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D'oh!

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Thank you, sir.

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She should know better than to "tap on the glass"; it hurts their ears. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I played a hand in the commerce 20/40 game where I raised a guys bet on the river, on a JJ229 board, with J9 and was called by quad 2s. The guy said he was worried about quad jacks.


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Ah the power of the all in move.

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D'oh!

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Thank you, sir.

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She should know better than to "tap on the glass"; it hurts their ears.

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Paranoia is really "heightened awareness.

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Ah the power of the all in move.

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I think someone is trying to challenge Microbob

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I saw a 20/40 hand at Borgata, set over set, (Qs and Ts) go 2 bets before the flop, 1 on the flop, 2 on the turn, and 1 on the river. Three ways.

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Similar, 10/20 game the night before WSOP ME Day 1 at the Rio this past year...

One raise preflop, 3 players.

Flop comes Q-T-6. Bet, raise, call, call.

Turn comes a J. Bet, call, call.

River 3. No flush on board. Bet, call, call.

QQ, TT, 66. Set over set over set. I sat there dumbfounded, got up, and left to go to the Borgata.

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Similar, 10/20 game the night before WSOP ME Day 1 at the Rio this past year...

I sat there dumbfounded, got up, and left to go to the Borgata.

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You got up to go to the Borgata from Rio? That's quite a haul!