Rolf\'s PLO Book - anybody got it yet?
 

I saw on Rolf's website that the book should have hit the shelves by now.

Anybody got a copy yet?

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i ordered my copy through amazon and am still waiting. their website lists a delivery estimate of oct 10 - oct 12, but i'm hoping it will arrive earlier.

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I just got mine in today through conjelco. Upon first glance it looks like on hell of a book.

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I just got mine in today through conjelco. Upon first glance it looks like on hell of a book.

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Yes – it’s really great. In my opinion it’s one of the best poker books ever written. Even if you are not interested in PLO (and if you aren’t – you probably will be after reading the book) it is very instructive on how a strong poker player approaches and thinks about big bet play. If you are the kind of player who wants to work at your game and think about your poker then this is an invaluable book. (I should point out that I am the publisher of the book, but this is not a puff piece – this is genuinely what I think).

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I'm sold.

Just cancelled my Amazon order and ordered it through Conjelco.

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I am about 100 pages into it, looks pretty damn good so far.

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Thanks for the kind words, guys. As you know, I have put a lot of time & effort into it - and I am glad to see this effort being appreciated.

As to the people who asked about Amazon: The book is in stock now.

Best regards,
Rolf.

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Even though I don't play PLO, I really enjoy your Card Player articles Rolf.

Keep up the good work.

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I have book envy, hurry up Amazon. I am working on a theory that preordering through Amazon sucks. I will let you know how it goes.

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Just ordered through professionalpoker.com via ebay.
Should get it by the weekend. Looking forward to it.

Question for those who have it or Rolf:
How applicable are the strategies to on-line PLO. My casino dosn't offer live PLO(although I try to generate interest).

I'll be playing exculsively on-line.
And will it be applicable to tournament play as well.

Thanks,
Spike

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Amazon says my order has shipped expected arrival date 9/27

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Rolf, just got the book. Looks awesome and in-depth. I'm experienced at no-limit hold em and new to Omaha, it seems like a fairly advanced book for a new player to Omaha. Would you recommend i read a basic Omaha book prior to your latest. Example - Championship Omaha by Cloutier and McEvoy

Thanks for your great work and sacrifice to help poker players like myself become better.

Psion

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Amazon says my order has shipped expected arrival date 9/27

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For future refernece, conjelco ships priority mail. I usually get stuff two days after it ships. I probably pay a bit more than I would at amazon, though.

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Spike,

If you are good at tournies the material is extensible.

This is absolutely fine for on line play. It is almost entirely based in math and talks about good strategy (in a game theory sense, though I don't think Rolf ever uses that term).

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I buy all my 2+2 books direct. I didn't know Rolf's book was going to be available through Conjelco.

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Amazon says my order has shipped expected arrival date 9/27

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For future refernece, conjelco ships priority mail. I usually get stuff two days after it ships. I probably pay a bit more than I would at amazon, though.

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In addition to the service, I don't mind paying a little more as appreciation for Conjelco supporting this site.

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How applicable is it to plo8?????

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Rolf, just got the book. Looks awesome and in-depth. I'm experienced at no-limit hold em and new to Omaha, it seems like a fairly advanced book for a new player to Omaha. Would you recommend i read a basic Omaha book prior to your latest. Example - Championship Omaha by Cloutier and McEvoy

Thanks for your great work and sacrifice to help poker players like myself become better.

Psion

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I'd recommend Ciaffone's book to start (if you need a primer).

Go to Rolf's website (www.rolfslotboom.com) and check out his book reviews.

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Would you recommend i read a basic Omaha book prior to your latest. Example - Championship Omaha by Cloutier and McEvoy



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Lyle Berman chapter in SSII is pretty basic
So is Ciaffone's Omaha book mentioned elsewhere

Ciaffone & Reuben have some good material in their PL & NL Poker book

Reuben's How Good is Your PLO is good.

I don't think much of Cloutier's book.

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Reuben's How Good is Your PLO is good.


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I hate to disagree with someone that has an awesome avatar but I think a new player is asking for seriuos trouble if he reads Reuben. I got past the first chapter and realized I was not ready for Reuben.

I didn't finish the book so I have incomplete information but my understanding is Reuben plays really well post flop so he can get away with being really loose preflop. A new player is not going to play well post flop so based on a partial read and previous discussions on this forum, I say newbie beware. I won't say don't read it and and I won't say it isn't a good book but I am certain it isn't for newbies.

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Rolf, just got the book. Looks awesome and in-depth. I'm experienced at no-limit hold em and new to Omaha, it seems like a fairly advanced book for a new player to Omaha. Would you recommend i read a basic Omaha book prior to your latest. Example - Championship Omaha by Cloutier and McEvoy

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No. As you know, I am not particularly fond of this book. In general, I would say: Provided you are a decent player when it comes to other games + you are familiar with the specific Omaha terms, I wouldn't advise you to read any books first just because they may be easier to digest. Yes, you may need to work a little bit harder & maybe read things 2 or 3 times before you understand it, but that is still much better IMO than a book that is a bit simpler, but possibly also a bit less accurate / insightful.

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Thanks Rolf, great advice. Almost finished with chapter one, and i immediately see your point. I certainly want to have alignment with the basic strategies outlined so far, and further strategies layed out in later chapters. I however didn't know you werent an endorser of the other book mentioned (Championship Omaha) just curious. What would you describe as a core weakness of the title and various other Omaha books floating around. (Don't mean to put you on the spot, but I'm sure along with myself, their are an array of other players just seeking to play solid omaha poker, who don't want to be lead down the wrong path by poker content which may "over-simplify" the complexities of basic, intermediate and advanced play. Thanks

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I got Reuben's book as well. Will combine that with Rolfs Book for primary reference. I heard Bill Boston's book is excellent for Limit Omaha 8. Just curous can you explain some weaknesses of the Championship Omaha book.

Thanks Psion

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does rolf's book cover plo8 or just plo?

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Just PLO.

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Reuben's How Good is Your PLO is good.


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I hate to disagree with someone that has an awesome avatar but I think a new player is asking for seriuos trouble if he reads Reuben. I got past the first chapter and realized I was not ready for Reuben.

I didn't finish the book so I have incomplete information but my understanding is Reuben plays really well post flop so he can get away with being really loose preflop. A new player is not going to play well post flop so based on a partial read and previous discussions on this forum, I say newbie beware. I won't say don't read it and and I won't say it isn't a good book but I am certain it isn't for newbies.

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This could be said for almost any good book (Capeletti's Omaha hilo book or Ed Miller's small stakes limit holdem book). A newbie should almost always look to play tighter then what these books recommend, so that they are entering pots with a nice edge and avoiding some of the more difficult situations. I still think that these books are extremely beneficial for all players, even new ones.

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This could be said for almost any good book (Capeletti's Omaha hilo book or Ed Miller's small stakes limit holdem book). A newbie should almost always look to play tighter then what these books recommend, so that they are entering pots with a nice edge and avoiding some of the more difficult situations. I still think that these books are extremely beneficial for all players, even new ones.

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Just out of curiosity and I appologize in advance if this is a stupid question but, Have you read Reuben's "How Good is Your Pot Limit Omaha"? Comparing it to SSH is a pretty big leap.

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This could be said for almost any good book (Capeletti's Omaha hilo book or Ed Miller's small stakes limit holdem book).

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Somewhat OT, but I'm not sure there is anything I could say about both Miller and Cappeletti's books. SSHE is possibly my favorite poker book of all time, while Cappeletti's Omaha Hi/Lo is the only poker book I have ever actually returned to the book store the day after I bought it.

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steamboatin - I have read Reuben's book. I thought it was really good but you are right, not on the same level as Small Stakes Holdem. My comparison was more about how many good books advise play that is a little too loose preflop for the typical newbie.

NickMPK I am surprised you returned that book right away. It's been a few years since I read it, but I specifically remember getting a lot of insight from that book, especially the stuff about Push and Pull hands.

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Cappeletti's Omaha Hi/Lo is the only poker book I have ever actually returned to the book store the day after I bought it.

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Currently reading it now. I spent some time searching for reviews and it seems to be a mixed bag. Either people loved it or hated it. I decided to go ahead and take a chance anyway.

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I'm sold. I'm buying this book for sure. I was thinking about it but the comments in here have sold me on it. Thanks for making the poker community that much better at PLO, Rolf [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I saw the book at Barnes & Noble today.

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This could be said for almost any good book (Capeletti's Omaha hilo book or Ed Miller's small stakes limit holdem book).

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Somewhat OT, but I'm not sure there is anything I could say about both Miller and Cappeletti's books. SSHE is possibly my favorite poker book of all time, while Cappeletti's Omaha Hi/Lo is the only poker book I have ever actually returned to the book store the day after I bought it.

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It's not going to win book of the year, but if you can't find $20 worth of value in it you're not trying hard enough

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Got it today. Read the first Chapter and half of the second one. All I can say is I'm pleased with what I've read so far.
There are no live PLO games were I'm located, I mostly play NLHM 300max.
I'm thinking the big stack and small stack strategies would work well for NLHM as well.
I know Rolf has DVD's for NLHM as well, I might have to check those out.

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got mine, the mailman just gave it up. I was ready to send Amazon a nasty email but I guess I am a happy camper now.

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just put my order in, can't wait!

i like reuben's book, i think you would have to be a fairly hopeless poker player not to realize how aggressive he is and read it on that basis.... bottom line is there is more practical information about plo in there than any other book on market, hoping i won't be able to say that when my package comes

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Pretty good so far. Lots of stuff to think about.

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ordered it off amazon.ca so hopefully itll be here soon

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Ordered mine on Amazon.co.uk. They are still telling me that it won't be in until late October! Bah!

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While I'm cool with Rolf's writing, I'd have to say that his name is cool, but his nickname is unoriginal and boring. :-D