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bobhalford 09-06-2006 03:34 PM

(False accusation later retracted/MH) Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
A few months back, when the Monster program started, I made a post about switching sites and asked if anyone wanted to split the refer-a-friend bonus on Pacific. ImsaKidd (who had over 2K posts) PM'd me and I created a new account.

I waited a few weeks and then PM'ed him to see what was up. He replied that he had to clear the bonus and wasn't paying me until Pacific paid him. So I waited a few more weeks. Sent a PM and received the same response. He was unclear whether or not he had cleared the bonus and not received payment, or hadn't bothered playing on the site.

Today I see a strategy post from him on the SSSH site on hands that he played on Full Tilt.

Anyway, I have no other recourse but to let everyone know that ImsaKidd is dishonest. If anyone wanted to split a RAF bonus, I would certainly cooperate and send the $$. That's just the way I am, and the way I expect most experienced posters on here to be. Even if I was a poor college student, I wouldn't bother angleshooting this way. Wouldn't make me feel too good about myself, and it wouldn't be worth the bad karma. It's a shame that someone would go out of their way to take advantage of a situation, tell lies about how they haven't received their bonus money yet, all for a mere $50 (I originally wanted to split the entire bonus 50/50, but then agreed when ImsaKidd insisted on giving me only $50 because he had to clear a bonus).

ImsaKidd 09-06-2006 03:39 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
LOL.

They havent credited the $150 to me. Obviously 4 PM's (every time you PM'ed me), isn't enough for you to get the message.

Thanks for making me out as a scumbag when i'm not. I appreciate it.

ImsaKidd 09-06-2006 03:42 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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Today I see a strategy post from him on the SSSH site on hands that he played on Full Tilt.



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What the hell does this have to do with anything?

Also, I have no reason to screw anyone out of $50. I'm not gonna give you $50 when Pacific hasnt credited me the $150 yet. I don't know if you didnt click the right link or what, but I hate dealing with Pacific customer support because it is worse than party support (IMO).

AngusThermopyle 09-06-2006 03:44 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 

Ok, which one of you is really Gold and which is Leyser?

McBusto 09-06-2006 03:45 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
This is cool.

ImsaKidd 09-06-2006 03:48 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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This is cool.

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Yeah, I love getting slandered. Should I post a link in BBV (with poll)?

bigalt 09-06-2006 03:50 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
orf wiv 'is 'ed

ImsaKidd 09-06-2006 04:06 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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orf wiv 'is 'ed

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what?

Ignignokt 09-06-2006 04:10 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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orf wiv 'is 'ed

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what?

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Say it to yourself with a John Gale accent.


Edit: FWIW, slandering someone else in the Zoo means next to nothing in the long run, so don't sweat it too much.

ImsaKidd 09-06-2006 04:16 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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orf wiv 'is 'ed

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what?

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Say it to yourself with a John Gale accent.


Edit: FWIW, slandering someone else in the Zoo means next to nothing in the long run, so don't sweat it too much.

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I still dont get it. PM me the joke?

It pissed me off that this guy PMs me saying he will give me the rest of today, then he posts 10 minutes later.

McBusto 09-06-2006 04:18 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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This is cool.

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Yeah, I love getting slandered. Should I post a link in BBV (with poll)?

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Yes but only if it has BASTAD on it.

suzzer99 09-06-2006 04:18 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
LOL at freaking out over $50. I think I'd just pay OP to get him out of my life.

MycroftX 09-06-2006 04:21 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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I still dont get it. PM me the joke?

It pissed me off that this guy PMs me saying he will give me the rest of today, then he posts 10 minutes later.

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Off with his head, zomg.

bwana devil 09-06-2006 04:25 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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LOL at freaking out over $50.

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1. id be annoyed at $50 and especially if i felt cheated out of it. it shouldnt take months to turn this around.

2. it's libel. please stop using slander.

bwana

AngusThermopyle 09-06-2006 04:43 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
Someone not play enough yet? New account (bobhalford) should get $50 (from Pacific) and referer (ImsaKidd ) $150 (from Pacific) after enough play by new account (bobhalford). Sounds like maybe bob hasn't played enough?

_______________________


6. For the Referred Friend to qualify for this offer, s/he must open an Account and make a minimum deposit of $20, within 30 days of receiving the invitation email. An immediate $25 bonus will automatically be added to the Referred Friend's Money Play account. To receive the remaining $25 of the bonus, the Referred Friend must accumulate a minimum of 888 comp points* within six months from their initial deposit. The bonus will be available for cash out once the Referred Friend bets 20 times the bonus amount.
7. For the Referring Friend to qualify for this offer, s/he must have a Money Play Account to which the $150 bonus will be credited. If not, s/he will not be entitled to the bonus. In addition, for the Referring Friend to receive the bonus, the Referred Friend(s) must open a new Pacific Poker Money Play Account and submit a Deposit of $20, or more, to that new account no more than 30 days after the Referring Friend has submitted the invitation. An immediate $50 bonus will be added to the Referring Friend's Money Play account. To receive the remaining $100 of the bonus the Referred friend(s) must accumulate a minimum of 888 comp points* within six months from their initial deposit.

Daniel Magix 09-06-2006 04:43 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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LOL at freaking out over $50. I think I'd just pay OP to get him out of my life.

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I will get out of your life for $40.

bobhalford 09-06-2006 05:01 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
Well, I've made over 4K comp points, so that can't be it. I thought that might be the problem until I checked my account.

So the jury is still out as to why no $$ has been credited to ImsaKidd's account, 3 months later.

AngusThermopyle 09-06-2006 05:08 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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Well, I've made over 4K comp points, so that can't be it. I thought that might be the problem until I checked my account.

So the jury is still out as to why no $$ has been credited to ImsaKidd's account, 3 months later.

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So you recieved both $25 payments from Pacific?

Ali shmali 09-06-2006 05:14 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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orf wiv 'is 'ed

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what?

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ok, this is going to bug me too. what gives?

sticky situation for you 2. Pacific support sucks.

bobhalford 09-06-2006 05:25 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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Well, I've made over 4K comp points, so that can't be it. I thought that might be the problem until I checked my account.

So the jury is still out as to why no $$ has been credited to ImsaKidd's account, 3 months later.

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So you recieved both $25 payments from Pacific?

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I think I got one of the $25 payments, not sure about the other one, whatever that is. What is being contested is the $50 out of the $150 that should have been credited to ImsaKidd's account. According to him, it has not been credited. He tried phone support, but it is currently unavailable, so we'll see tomorrow what happens.

I think ImsaKidd means well. He may not be a dishonest 2+2er... he may just need a little motivating to solve problems.

I can't blame myself for making the initial post. After 3 months and a few PM's, all he had to say to me was "it hasn't been credited to my account." No mention of having contacted support, no mention of how strange it was that no money was received, etc. All he said was that he's not giving me any $$ until he gets his $$. That was fine with me until 3-4 months later when I'm asking for an explanation.

Given ImsaKidd's responses to my PM's, the only thing I could conclude was that he was taking the $$ for himself. Certainly, if I was him, I would have contacted Pacific 3 months ago demanding my $150. It occured to me that the only reason why he wouldn't care about this is because he got his $150 and isn't paying me the $50. The only evidence in his favor was that he actually continued to repond to my PM's.

Kaz The Original 09-06-2006 05:26 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
Shame on you ImsaKidd. What is the world coming to?

heater 09-06-2006 05:26 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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orf wiv 'is 'ed

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what?

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ok, this is going to bug me too. what gives?

sticky situation for you 2. Pacific support sucks.

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Off with his head.

TylerD 09-06-2006 05:29 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
its already been answered. "Off with his head" said in a cockney (London) accent.

AngusThermopyle 09-06-2006 05:31 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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I think I got one of the $25 payments, not sure about the other one, whatever that is. What is being contested is the $50 out of the $150 that should have been credited to ImsaKidd's account. According to him, it has not been credited. He tried phone support, but it is currently unavailable, so we'll see tomorrow what happens.

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READ THE T&C.
If you did not get the second $25, they don't think you generated enough points. If they don't think you generated enough points, they aren't going to pay him.

And you don't give a Forque about $25 Pacific may owe you? But you can come screaming here over $50?

bobhalford 09-06-2006 05:48 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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I think I got one of the $25 payments, not sure about the other one, whatever that is. What is being contested is the $50 out of the $150 that should have been credited to ImsaKidd's account. According to him, it has not been credited. He tried phone support, but it is currently unavailable, so we'll see tomorrow what happens.

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READ THE T&C.
If you did not get the second $25, they don't think you generated enough points. If they don't think you generated enough points, they aren't going to pay him.

And you don't give a Forque about $25 Pacific may owe you? But you can come screaming here over $50?

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Since I've accumlated over 4,000 points, I think I've played enough. I probably did receive the 2nd $25 bonus, I just don't know what that is exactly. I know that they have given me more money other than the first deposit bonus.

I don't think it's that I haven't played enough. I think there may have been a problem at Pacific, which we will hopefully sort out tomorrow when phone support is back up.

ptmusic 09-06-2006 06:06 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
Yeah, dealing with each other and phone support for who knows how many hours seems like a good use of time for $50.

bobhalford 09-06-2006 06:14 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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Yeah, dealing with each other and phone support for who knows how many hours seems like a good use of time for $50.

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I've contacted support before and didn't experience any problems. I expect this to get resolved tomorrow without much problem, but then again I'm an optimistic person.

WhatDoesCallMean 09-06-2006 06:38 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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Yeah, dealing with each other and phone support for who knows how many hours seems like a good use of time for $50.

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I've contacted support before and didn't experience any problems. I expect this to get resolved tomorrow without much problem, but then again I'm an optimistic person.

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before it gets resolved tomorrow, like you expect, you really should make a "Rigged Poker Site: Pacific" post just in case they are.

sure if they're not, whats the harm?

and i really did laugh at reading the sensational title that someone at 2+2 may be dishonest...i mean, its a site full of poker players, gamblers and people with nothing better to do with their time except sit at the internet all day - how could any of these people be even slightly dishonest?

of course, im not saying that thos other guy is dishonest.....i just dont care [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

MicroBob 09-06-2006 07:52 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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I think ImsaKidd means well. He may not be a dishonest 2+2er

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I have no other recourse but to let everyone know that ImsaKidd is dishonest.

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It's a shame that someone would go out of their way to take advantage of a situation, tell lies about how they haven't received their bonus money yet

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he may just need a little motivating to solve problems.


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SackUp 09-06-2006 09:47 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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Shame on you ImsaKidd. What is the world coming to?

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I laughed.

D.H. 09-07-2006 05:51 AM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
Did YOU contact support before starting this thread? If you did and got the message that your friend had been paid, then this thread would be OK. You should not start a thread like this unless you are sure that you are right.

Black winter day 09-07-2006 06:56 AM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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Shame on you ImsaKidd. What is the world coming to?

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I laughed.

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Me too [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
AK - you are one sick mofo

ImsaKidd 09-07-2006 12:08 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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Did YOU contact support before starting this thread? If you did and got the message that your friend had been paid, then this thread would be OK. You should not start a thread like this unless you are sure that you are right.

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Of course he didn't.

bobhalford 09-07-2006 12:59 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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Did YOU contact support before starting this thread? If you did and got the message that your friend had been paid, then this thread would be OK. You should not start a thread like this unless you are sure that you are right.

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Of course he didn't.

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Since when do people call inquiring about other people's accounts? I have to provide my mother's maiden name etc. to get support for my account. How do you think it's going to work when I ask for details about someone else's bonus account. That's totally retarded. ImsaKidd should have contacted support 3 months ago. Why he didn't or hasn't has not been determined yet. Now, after 3 months and an entire thread, I'm still clueless about how this situation got to where it is right now. Whether this was done on purpose or by accident, I don't know. All I know is I agreed on a deal that would give me $50 and now 3 months later I don't have it. It's not my responsibility to call up support asking why some other player didn't receive his bonus money.

AngusThermopyle 09-07-2006 01:19 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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Since when do people call inquiring about other people's accounts? I have to provide my mother's maiden name etc. to get support for my account. How do you think it's going to work when I ask for details about someone else's bonus account. That's totally retarded. ImsaKidd should have contacted support 3 months ago. Why he didn't or hasn't has not been determined yet. Now, after 3 months and an entire thread, I'm still clueless about how this situation got to where it is right now. Whether this was done on purpose or by accident, I don't know. All I know is I agreed on a deal that would give me $50 and now 3 months later I don't have it. It's not my responsibility to call up support asking why some other player didn't receive his bonus money.

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3 months ago? What, you cleared the 888 points in one day?

You claim you made enough points, but how does he know you aren't lying? How does he know that you didn't just agree so you could make a quick $50 and never did play?

You don't even know if they gave you the second $25, which should have happened at the same time he got his $100. But you don't seem to care about it. You just want to put all the onus on him. Try getting hold of CS and ask them if they ever credited you the second $25, and when.

canada_dry 09-07-2006 02:11 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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They havent credited the $150 to me. Obviously 4 PM's (every time you PM'ed me), isn't enough for you to get the message.

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OP, says he created the account "a few months back" and you are telling me that you haven't cleared the bonus yet?

One of you is lying.

AngusThermopyle 09-07-2006 02:15 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
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OP, says he created the account "a few months back" and you are telling me that you haven't cleared the bonus yet?

One of you is lying.

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He does not clear the bonus, the OP does.

bobhalford 09-07-2006 04:13 PM

Retraction and apology / MH
 
Ok - I've sorted the whole thing out today.

I erroneously believed that I had received the bonus money. I just recalled having received a few $25 type gratuities that I figured was the bonus cash. In checking with support, I apparently had not received the bonus. A quick email exchange with promotions solved the problem and our bonuses will be credited in the next 48 hours.

Apologies to ImsaKidd for the thread. I wasn't as clear on the bonus protocol that sites use (and I've never done a RAF bonus before so I didn't realize that my bonus would be credited at the same time as his).

So, in my mind I had done my side of the deal, and ImsaKidd was not doing what needed to be done to get it over with. Even though I was able to resolve this myself, I still think it was his responsibility to contact support to resolve the matter, as I had played enough at Pacific to grant him the bonus. I had done what I was required to do and wasn't getting my $50, which pissed me off.

If ImsaKidd wants me to, I can create a new thread to clear his name. He is not dishonest. But I definitely would not recommend him as someone to share a RAF bonus with.

MicroBob 09-07-2006 04:51 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
Why should imsakidd have to do this if you are the one that hadn't received credit for the bonus.

he was pretty relaxed about it apparently and said, "Look, I can't pay you until they pay me. Are you sure you have played enough there?"
And you seemed to be like, "OMG YES YES YES!! Give me my damn money already."


I'm not sure the etiquette for these things either, but it seems like blaming him for Pacific's mistake is kind of silly.

poker_n00b 09-07-2006 05:25 PM

Re: Dishonest 2+2er: ImsaKidd
 
lol karpinski


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