Why I think online poker IS rigged.
 

They rig online poker because they have to to survive.

Some people think they rig it out of greed, to maximize rake, but that's not true.

Do you really think they can allow expert players to hop on multiple tables at 70 hands per hour and win all the money from the recreational players? The recreational players would quickly get discouraged and quit. These people, who want to play every hand they are dealt, are the vast majority of the online sites business and any site that doesn't rig the game so they can stay in it will go bankrupt in no time. A business must cater to the vast majority of its customers. Not to a small minority.

After playing online try playing live at a real casino. You will quickly notice some odd differences. For example, people who play every hand they are dealt, lose their chips and have to buy more instead of you losing your chips to them. I swear I've seen it with my own eyes.

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They rig online poker because they have to to survive.

Some people think they rig it out of greed, to maximize rake, but that's not true.

Do you really think they can allow expert players to hop on multiple tables at 70 hands per hour and win all the money from the recreational players? The recreational players would quickly get discouraged and quit. These people, who want to play every hand they are dealt, are the vast majority of the online sites business and any site that doesn't rig the game so they can stay in it will go bankrupt in no time. A business must cater to the vast majority of its customers. Not to a small minority.

After playing online try playing live at a real casino. You will quickly notice some odd differences. For example, people who play every hand they are dealt, lose their chips and have to buy more instead of you losing your chips to them. I swear I've seen it with my own eyes.

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... of course... why didn't I see it, it's so clear now.

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Finally some definitive proof

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Finally some definitive proof

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Oh that explains a lot... and here I thought God just hated me.

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LOL i'm guessing you've played like 500 hands

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They rig online poker because they have to to survive.

Some people think they rig it out of greed, to maximize rake, but that's not true.

Do you really think they can allow expert players to hop on multiple tables at 70 hands per hour and win all the money from the recreational players? The recreational players would quickly get discouraged and quit. These people, who want to play every hand they are dealt, are the vast majority of the online sites business and any site that doesn't rig the game so they can stay in it will go bankrupt in no time. A business must cater to the vast majority of its customers. Not to a small minority.

After playing online try playing live at a real casino. You will quickly notice some odd differences. For example, people who play every hand they are dealt, lose their chips and have to buy more instead of you losing your chips to them. I swear I've seen it with my own eyes.

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this thread should be stickied for truth

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500 hands and 21 posts.

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all I can say is at least he took the time to think it out and use paragraphs.

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They rig online poker because they have to to survive.

Some people think they rig it out of greed, to maximize rake, but that's not true.

Do you really think they can allow expert players to hop on multiple tables at 70 hands per hour and win all the money from the recreational players? The recreational players would quickly get discouraged and quit. These people, who want to play every hand they are dealt, are the vast majority of the online sites business and any site that doesn't rig the game so they can stay in it will go bankrupt in no time. A business must cater to the vast majority of its customers. Not to a small minority.

After playing online try playing live at a real casino. You will quickly notice some odd differences. For example, people who play every hand they are dealt, lose their chips and have to buy more instead of you losing your chips to them. I swear I've seen it with my own eyes.

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APPARENTLY SO

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Since all gambling results should have variance - I can imagine that the first time when playing a gambling game, even as a losing proposition, it is pretty natural for at some time early on to have profit (because of the swings) but as time passes this gets less and less probable for a -EV player/game.

I'd guess that this plausible variance profit slowly dwindling into losses away as statistics chews along is probably 99% of the reason behind 'rigged' theories.

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I must say..... I for one am now convinced.

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The beats are the same live. I watched a guy play every hand for 2 hours and make $300 at 2/4 and bounce.

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I must say..... I for one am now convinced.

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The beats are the same live. I watched a guy play every hand for 2 hours and make $300 at 2/4 and bounce.

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Prove it. BAD PLAYERS DON'T WIN LIVE.

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why i think YOU'RE an idiot:

see OP.

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I have to be honest arguments that online poker is rigged are ridiculous. Anyone could parse the numbers and see if things were happening where they shouldn't and then the site would be vulnerable to litigation because the EULA guarantees a fair random number generator.

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I have to be honest arguments that online poker is rigged are ridiculous. Anyone could parse the numbers and see if things were happening where they shouldn't and then the site would be vulnerable to litigation because the EULA guarantees a fair random number generator.

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For a second there, I was completely convinced by OP. Now you've completely changed my mind!

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I have to be honest arguments that online poker is rigged are ridiculous. Anyone could parse the numbers and see if things were happening where they shouldn't and then the site would be vulnerable to litigation because the EULA guarantees a fair random number generator.

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there have been sites that have been shown to be rigged

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I have to be honest arguments that online poker is rigged are ridiculous. Anyone could parse the numbers and see if things were happening where they shouldn't and then the site would be vulnerable to litigation because the EULA guarantees a fair random number generator.

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there have been sites that have been shown to be rigged

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link?

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I have to be honest arguments that online poker is rigged are ridiculous. Anyone could parse the numbers and see if things were happening where they shouldn't and then the site would be vulnerable to litigation because the EULA guarantees a fair random number generator.

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there have been sites that have been shown to be rigged

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link?

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i thought planet poker's rng was shown to have a flaw
not sure about the site name.... but i know there was at least one...... i don't know if it was on purpose by the programers or not

this is different?

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I have to be honest arguments that online poker is rigged are ridiculous. Anyone could parse the numbers and see if things were happening where they shouldn't and then the site would be vulnerable to litigation because the EULA guarantees a fair random number generator.


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Nonsense.

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the site would be vulnerable to litigation because the EULA guarantees a fair random number generator.

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Litigation from Gibraltar National Mounties or the Official Internet Poker Police?

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hey i'm not sure how poker works but if you're losing all your money to [censored] players, doesn't that mean you suck ass and should die?

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If online poker is rigged, how do they choose who the winning players are?

It always seems like the guys posting hands, talking about strategy, and examining the game and trying to improve seem to be the winners.

Whatever software the poker sites are using to detect this intellect and rig the game for these players is quite impressive.

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Easy.

If you win, they make you lose. Then, because you are losing, they let you win...

Waitasec....

At some point, I think you have to travel through time...