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I'm rewatching some old episodes of HSP and in episode 10 Barry and Daniel are talking about the AA vs KK hand. They say something to the effect of they didn't believe Sammy had the kings since when the king flopped he didn't give a reaction, and it took him like 5 minutes to turn over his hand or something.

That is completely the opposite of what was shown in the actual episode though. Sammy gave a startled cry and asked to run it twice and immediately turns over the kings after the river. Was this spliced in or what? This seems pretty weird. This talk happens during the hand where Antonio just won the hand moving all in on the turn with J6 against Eli.

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What's your point? He either misspoke or didn't remember the specific details, not a big deal.

I doubt he intentionally said this knowing what happened to get sympathy, but its a possible angle.

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Err I don't really have a point. I find it unlikely Barry or Daniel would misremember a hand like that, and impossible for them both to misremember and nobody chiming in. I assume what they said had to be correct.

However that is COMPLETELY the opposite of what was shown. I'm just curious as to what actually happened, that's all.

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creative editing?

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sammy says "oh, is that a king?" what barry and daniel said is that sammy didnt show his kings, as it would be proper etiquette to do since he flopped the nuts. barry showed his aces because as far as i know if you're all-in the only time in a cash game you really should definitely show your hand is if you have the nuts. they do say he didnt react to the king though, which they were of course wrong about. it'sn ot a big deal though.

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Sammy and I haven't figured out how they edited it to look like he jumped in his seat and let on that he flopped a set. He did quietly say he had Kings before the flop came, but then he stayed emotionless as the flop hit, only asking if I wanted to run it twice. We know that they took out a lot of dead time, but none of us remember the reaction shown on TV.

Barry

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wow, that's weird that they just added him jumping out of his seat.

it just goes to show you that you can't assume everything on these poker shows goes down exactly as shown, i e-mailed jennifer harman through her site and mentioned the slowroll at the end of that 1outer in last years main event coverage on ESPN, and she replied saying that it was edited to look worse than it was. Seems the producers try to make a lot of extra drama.

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Yay I got a response from Barry! Heh <3

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wow, that's weird that they just added him jumping out of his seat.

it just goes to show you that you can't assume everything on these poker shows goes down exactly as shown, i e-mailed jennifer harman through her site and mentioned the slowroll at the end of that 1outer in last years main event coverage on ESPN, and she replied saying that it was edited to look worse than it was. Seems the producers try to make a lot of extra drama.

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Been discussed ad nauseum that it wasn't really a slow-roll. He thought he was hollywooding to put her all-in...not realizing that her bet already set him all-in.

Ironic though that they ended up sitting directly next to each other on the 1st day of the WSOP this year. He busted her AA with 66 after he flopped a set. He's like impending doom to Harman.

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He's like impending doom to Harman.

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Either him or Doug Lee who I think knocked Jen out of 3 tournies in a row...or something like that.

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Doug Lee= Overated Donkey
Zeidman= Bigtime Donkey

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From an interview with Farha:

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That’s a situation where you got unlucky. Let’s talk about one where you got lucky. You were on High Stakes Poker…


Farha: (Laughs) I know what you’re going to say.
Before we get to that hand against Barry Greenstein, tell me what was different about a televised cash game.
First, I think about myself. I don’t want to lose on TV. I’ll look bad. So if I think that way, that means everybody’s thinking the same way. Now I thought, Maybe I’ll play a lot looser, as usual, on TV, show them how loose I am, and I know I’m going to outplay all of them. Because they’re playing to win, and not to lose. I played looser and bluffed a lot and outplayed them. I used psychology. I was in their minds, thinking, They’re not going to play these hands. On the contrary, I was gambling. I was playing below the belt.
Let me tell you what happened on the last hand, when I beat Barry’s pocket aces with pocket kings. I think Barry cost himself that hand. About two hours before that, I saw Barry and Doyle Brunson playing a hand. Doyle had aces and Barry had pocket queens. Doyle raises, Barry moved all in. Two hours later, I sit down. I try to see who’s winning and losing, and Barry says, “Well, I’m losing $700,000.” So I figured, all night long, Barry’s going to be gambling here. He’s going to be playing aggressively to get his money back.
Now, they announce the last hand. I have pocket kings. Barry raises, made it $5,000 or something. I counted my money, I’m winning $100,000. I say, Well, I gotta raise. I gotta play this. So I raise, I make it like $12,500 or so. Barry raises to $50,000. I think to myself, This is a [censored] cooler, it’s unbelievable! The last hand, I don’t want to go broke, and Barry has, like, exactly the same amount of chips as me. I kept thinking, If I muck my hand, I’ll win 85 thou. That’s the right thing to do. It’s the last hand. Why would I risk everything when I’m winning on the day? I kept thinking—it took me maybe 10 minutes—then I remembered the hand he played against Doyle. I said, either Barry has queens or he has aces. And Barry, if he had queens, he would make the same move, because he’s losing a lot. And Barry knows I play so aggressive, maybe Sammy is gambling as usual. The right thing is to muck them, but I’m a gambler. I put him all in. Of course, he calls.
So they open the flop and a king hits the board. I don’t react. On TV, I don’t know, they edit it so it looks like I’m jumping around. I never reacted. They edited that! It’s reality television. They can do a lot with reality


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Hmmm. Very nice. Nicer to cite a source though.

If Barry and Sam are saying it didn't happen then um, uh. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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All In Magazine

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Ta very much (didn't mean to come across as rude btw if you wondering).

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Is Sammy a moron?
How the hell did Barry "cost" himself that hand?
He made a great overbet, making it look like his range is much wider than AA (especially since he played QQ that way before vs Doyle and he was stuck) and Sammy took the bait and went allin.
I know, that if Sammy folds, Barry doesn't lose the hand, but come on, you can't say, a person "costs" himself the hand by getting all his money in vs an underpair.

Sorry for the bump, got the link to this thread from here
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...;gonew=1#UNREAD