Songs that made you realize your favorite band was going downhill
 

Smashing Pumpkins - Ava Adore
Dave Matthews Band - I Did it
REM - Shiny Happy People
U2 - Numb

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Anything after and including "Load" from metallica

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When push comes to shove

meh

also, the entire final cut album

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By The Time I Get To Arizona - Public Enemy

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Last Cup of Sorrow - Faith No More... they rehashed "Kindergarten" from the Angel Dust record, just changed the lyrics... it is teh suck.

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entire Green Album by Weezer

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This is probably in my top three Floyd albums.

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Hysteria-Def Leppard

They used to rock, i swear.

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Pretty Fly For A White Guy - The Offspring

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Why do people always say that about Metallica? Their songs from post-Black Album era are objectively better than before. Stop trying to be cool by saying newer Metallica sucks; god forbid a band should develop musically beyond speed metal that all sounds the same.

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Hysteria-Def Leppard

They used to rock, i swear.

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So let me get this straight, you liked all of their previous albums but DIDN'T like Hysteria? I think everyone in the world liked it but you, might be wrong though.

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This is probably in my top three Floyd albums.

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It's a great album but definitely a clear sign that Pink Floyd as it was before had ceased to exist.

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This is probably in my top three Floyd albums.

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It's a great album but definitely a clear sign that Pink Floyd as it was before had ceased to exist.

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Yeah, it was basically a Roger Waters solo album. But still incredible nonetheless.

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Pretty Fly For A White Guy - The Offspring

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I'd actually pick Original Prankster, but I see where you're coming from.

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FYP

- JA

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I think this was about the time Metallica started having group therapy sessions.

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November Rain

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Please never comment on music again. Your statement is obsurb talking about any musical subject, but post black album metallica, you have got to be f'ing joking

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Wow. You're the first human being I've ever heard with that opinion. I knew Metallica turned into a bunch of hacks when I first heard "Fuel."

Just contrast and compare the lyrics to something like "Creeping Death."

Slaves
Hebrews born to serve, to the pharaoh
Heed
To his every word, live in fear
Faith
Of the unknown one, the deliverer
Wait
Something must be done, four hundred years

So let it be written
So let it be done
I'm sent here by the chosen one
So let it be written
So let it be done
To kill the first born pharaoh son
I'm creeping death

Now
Let my people go, land of Goshen
Go
I will be with thee, bush of fire
Blood
Running red and strong down the nile
Plague
Darkness three days long, hail to fire

So let it be written
So let it be done
I'm sent here by the chosen one
So let it be written
So let it be done
To kill the first born pharaoh son
I'm creeping death

Die by my hand
I creep across the land
Killing first-born man
Die by my hand
I creep across the land
Killing first-born man

I
Rule the midnight air, the destroyer
Born
I shall soon be there, deadly mass
I
Creep the steps and floor, final darkness
Blood
Lambs blood painted door, I shall pass

So let it be written
So let it be done
I'm sent here by the chosen one
So let it be written
So let it be done
To kill the first born pharaoh son
I'm creeping death



This [censored] song makes me wanna kill [censored] babies that will grow up to become tyrants. Now contrast that to "Fuel" from the Load Album

Gimme fuel
Gimme fire
Gimme that which I desire

Turn on, I see red
Adrenaline crash and crack my head
Nitro junkie, paint me dead
And I see red

One hundred plus through black and white
War horse
War head
[censored] em, man
White knuckle tight
Through black and white

Oh, on I burn
Fuel is pumping engines
Burning hard
Loose and clean

Oh, and on I burn
Turning my direction
Quench my thirst with gasoline

So gimme fuel
Gimme fire
Gimme that which I desire

Turn on beyond the bone
Swallow future, spit out hope
Burn your face upon the chrome

Take the corner, join the crash
Headlights, head on
Another junkie lives too fast

Yeah
Lives way too fast, fast, fast, fast, fast

Oh, on I burn
Fuel is pumping engines
Burning hard, loose and clean

Oh, and on I burn
Turning my direction
Quench my thirst with gasoline

So gimme fuel
Gimme fire
Gimme that which I desire

Oh
Gimme fuel
Gimme fire
My desire

Oh, on I burn
Fuel is pumping engines
Burning hard, loose and clean

On I burn
Turning my direction
Quench my thirst with gasoline

Gimme fuel
Gimme fire
Gimme that which I desire

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This song makes want to bomb a theatre full of people watching 'Fast and the Furious' but not because the song kicks ass, simply because the theatre might be full of people that like songs like this one.

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Why do people always say that about Metallica? Their songs from post-Black Album era are objectively better than before. Stop trying to be cool by saying newer Metallica sucks; god forbid a band should develop musically beyond speed metal that all sounds the same.

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How is it "cool" to say new Metallica isn't as good? Who would we be trying to impress, exactly? Personally, I think even the Black album was the beginning of the downhill slide for Metallica, although it's not the boring pile of crap all the later albums are.

Also, I wasn't aware there were objective criteria for measuring music, especially heavy metal. Subjectively, I think they used to rock. Now I think they sound like most other crappy metal bands. If you disagree, fine. You don't really fit the criteria of this thread, since you think they're still good.

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I think that "Unforgiven" and "Sad but true" are both powerful songs from the Black Album. They may not be as fast as the earlier songs, but they have the same element of heaviness as the first 3 albums.

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The Joshua Tree was good but I could totally tell what direction U2 was going after that and I didn't like it.

Ramones, Bonzo Goes to Bittburg was a cool song, but a similar feeling of doom followed it around.

Green Day, Good Riddance (Time of Your Life). Downhill big time.

Prince, Raspberry Beret. Duh.

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Not all the Black album was bad by any means, but I thought it showed signs of the band slipping.

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REM - Shiny Happy People


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WTF? That's a crap song for sure, but downhill? Yeah, you're right -- following that up with AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE is a real step down. ROFL, etc.

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Phish, Sample in a Jar

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I assume you mean the studio version. Phish has lots of tunes that pretty much bite in the studio, but really open up live. I think this is one of them. Crappy as a four-minute polished tune. But unbelievable as a first-set closer. Especially with the lights.

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Dave Matthews Band - I Did it


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Hoo boy. This song made me sad.

Growing up as a Rush fan, I was originally going to say The Big Money, but there were a few other good songs on that album, so I'll say Force Ten instead.

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WTF? That's a crap song for sure, but downhill? Yeah, you're right -- following that up with AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE is a real step down. ROFL, etc.

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When I read the thread title, I knew REM would be my pick. But I had a much later song in mind. I think Out of Time is perhaps their best album (to me, anyway), even if shiny happy people ain't that great. And of course joker is right about AFTP.

For me it's either Daysleeper or Imitation of Life. Probably the latter, as I like New Adventures and UP a lot.

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By The Time I Get To Arizona - Public Enemy

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Kill yourself.

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a band can go downhill on their second album?

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I seem to always be the only Metallica fan(at least on messageboards and from what I read online) that likes Load. Hero of the Day is actually my favorite Metallica song.

ReLoad pretty much sucked though

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Res Ipsa Loquitur

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Phish, Sample in a Jar

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I assume you mean the studio version. Phish has lots of tunes that pretty much bite in the studio, but really open up live. I think this is one of them. Crappy as a four-minute polished tune. But unbelievable as a first-set closer. Especially with the lights.

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Correct. I heard it for the first time live in Washington, DC, in December 1993 and thought it was amazing. When the album came out I distinctly remember thinking "uh-oh". That also applies to most of Hoist in general, but Sample is what sticks out in my mind.

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Not all the Black album was bad by any means, but I thought it showed signs of the band slipping.

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I guess I'm just too into mainstream music. I thought the black album, end to end, was STELLAR. However, talk to any hardcore Metallica fan and you'd think they crapped on a CD, threw it in a jewel case and charged $13.99 at Sam Goody for the privilege of smelling their sh*t.

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Well, it depends on when you got into Metallica I guess. I know the Black album got them a TON of new fans. Good for them, they're totally rich. Most people who like the older music don't like the newer stuff.

Good call on Faith No More earlier in the thread. They were a fantastic band when they started. King For a Day had a number of mediocre songs though and everything after that was really bad.

Use Your Illusion was G'NR's 3rd album, and I thought it was good. I can't think of a song that made me think they were going downhill since they pretty much crapped out after that and didn't make much more music.

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Death Cab For Cutie - "Sound of Settling" ; puke

Pavement - "Stereo" (Brighten the Corners)
though I really like some songs on that album, some of the songs are just obviously phoned in and you can tell it was going downhill from here.

U2 - Zooropa (yeah, I know Numb is in the OP, suck me, OOT)

Metallica - Nothing Else Matters or Unforgiven

REM - Losing my Religion (yeah, pretty obvious they lost it on this album)

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WTF? That's a crap song for sure, but downhill? Yeah, you're right -- following that up with AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE is a real step down. ROFL, etc.

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I actually think "Automatic" is their best album, and "Monster" isn't bad at all either, but you could tell on "Out of Time" that they were headed for the crapper, and it quickly came to pass after Monster.

The last few songs on "OOT" are actually still awesome : Half A World Away / Texarkana / Country Feedback / Me In Honey-580 but the first half is puke-worthy.

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The Joshua Tree was good but I could totally tell what direction U2 was going after that and I didn't like it.


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You seem like you're into punk which sort of makes sense, but people make this statement a lot and it's so sick. Joshua Tree - Rattle & Hum - Achtung was the peak of U2 for most people. I personally love the stuff before Joshua, but it's very raw and not really that unusual or special. You could definitely get worried by Achtung.