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Wow, I was seriously disappointed. After a series of episodes escalating in drama, tension and quality, this [censored] sucked.

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Ugh... Ruined my whole weekend. Easily worst episode of the series.

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Yeah, I couldnt believe it. Worst episode of the season. All that time spent on getting Wu and Hawkeye's men to camp and nothing happens. Seems like they were thing, lets just end this and be done with it. I hardly see a point for the movies now, even though I hope they still do them. All that discussion we had of major characters dieing sure didnt pan out.

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LOL.......... I still thought it was an excellent episode. I was disappointed in the fact that Bullock did not put a smack down on Hearst. If that happened it would have been awesome.

Utter was on fire tonight. He had a couple of great scenes. The first one with Hearst and then the one with the N***er General.

You are correct it was a letdown in the respect that there was not more conclusion/action/drama. I suppose that it was going to be left for the next season. I guess had this not been the last episode it would have been just as good as any of the previous. I still think this was the best season of any TV show I have seen.

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My heart was pounding when Al went into the office with Hearst and his guys. I really thought he was gonna make a move with his blade. I was so looking forward to this episode. I cant believe it was a letdown and now its over.

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I was researching Deadwood mid week (yes cheating) to see who was real and not real. Almost everyone made it out of Deadwood alive. Between that and about the first 15 minutes of the episode, it was apparent not much in the way of death was going to happen............

So it was easy to guess that most if not all of the main characters were going to make it till Season 4 or the movies whichever they decide.


I thought Al would get one of the henchmen. I also thought Hearst's ego, from basically getting called a Pussy by Bullock and Utter, would cause him to get an epic beat down from Bullock. I was disappointed that did not happen. I think Hearst spitting teeth would be pretty cool.

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Feh. What a letdown, especially as the series finale. Not glimmer of hope...

Alma is forced to sell to Hearst. Hearst steals the election and crushes Star and Bullock. Al's reinforcements finally arrive... and do nothing. Al never gets revenge and watches Hearst ride out of town smug and happy... only after he has to murder an innocent woman in order to appease Hearst.

I really don't think the producers knew the series wouldn't have a season 4, or I'd expect a bit more closure. As it stands, it's a horrible way to finish the series. A dark, dreary, disappointing end to what seemed to be such an amazing season.

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Just came across this.

Deadwood Rides Again

Here is another article.

On Deadwood Season 4

That second article closes with possibly the best line in Deadwood history:

"The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man — and give some back."

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Deadwood Rides Again

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LOL before some nit flames you, that has been known for awhile. Milch got pissed because HBO was only going to buy/pay for 6 episodes. He told them to [censored] off. They came back with the 2-2hour movies, which kind of made everyone happy.

My guess is the movie idea is because HBO is supposedly not getting international rights. Which crimps the earning power of the show and the biggest factor in HBO's decision to stiff Milch and us.


Maybe with the movie it is a way to get around that. Somewhat similar to Firefly/Serenity.

God knows when these movies will actually be made. Milch is working on another series for HBO, some surfer series.

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Deadwood Rides Again

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LOL before some nit flames you, that has been known for awhile. Milch got pissed because HBO was only going to buy/pay for 6 episodes. He told them to [censored] off. They came back with the 2-2hour movies, which kind of made everyone happy.

My guess is the movie idea is because HBO is supposedly not getting international rights. Which crimps the earning power of the show and the biggest factor in HBO's decision to stiff Milch and us.


Maybe with the movie it is a way to get around that. Somewhat similar to Firefly/Serenity.

God knows when these movies will actually be made. Milch is working on another series for HBO, some surfer series.

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Yeah, I already knew that they werent doing a fourth season and were going to make those movies. Those links just went into a little more detail about it, so I thought I'd post them.

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Hearst steals the election and crushes Star and Bullock.

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Not sure that's actually the case, this was never really established during the episode. Bullock was losing to Manning in Sturgis, but the final outcome wasn't revealed.

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Unlike most here, I thought it was a good ending. The way they left things, and Swearengen's last line went perfect together. In real life, things don't usually end neat and clean, and often, not everything gets resolved.

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I thought about it a little more this morning, and I still hate the ending.

Agreed, it would be unrealistic if everything worked out perfectat the end, but SOME measure of closure would have been more satisfying. After all the build up all season about "war" and "blood", the final episode was remarkably uneventful, aside from the complete triumph of Hearst.

Essentially, it was like Lord of the Rings, except if Sauron had succeeded in taking over Middle Earth, Aragorn denied his right to be King, and Gandalf murdered to spare the lives of the hobbits and appease the displeasure of Sauron.

Or it was like Star Wars, if Darth Vader succeeded in conquering the Galaxy, Luke was left to die after his hand got cut off, and Han Solo and Leia were allowed to live, but only as prisoners on the second Death Star.

Feh... Very satisfying...

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Paging ActualGod...





WTF?!?!?!?!?

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I've got almost 4000 posts now, and it seems like 10% of them start out with the same four words:

You guys are nuts!

This was a GREAT episode. Almost every scene, there was half a chance of someone we love getting killed. And not in a silly, Schwartzenegger way, but realistically.

I didn't want Charlie, Al, or Johnny to die in this episode, and all three put their necks on the line for us. What more do you want?

And I'm not so sure it was such a total win for Hearst. Al called on the Wu Brigade and the Hawkeye Brigade. As soon as they stepped foot into the arena, Hearst took off like a scared schoolgirl. I don't believe for a second that a copper find in Montana is more pressing than a gold strike in South Dakota, and I can't believe that Hearst thinks so.

I, for one, am tickled pink that the apocolypse was avoided in Deadwood. All our friends live to see another season, or movie, or whatever.

Latest results from Sturgis: Cy's a freaking lunatic! "Lord, help me understand c**t."

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I agree with YTF. This was an awesome episode. Lots of tension, some killin, threats of killin, and Richardson talking Jive to Aunt Lou! WTF more do you people want?

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Feh. What a letdown, especially as the series finale. Not glimmer of hope...

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You know that when they taped this episode they did not know they were going to get cancelled. Thank god they are going to make 2 more episodes to finish things off properly.

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WTF more do you people want?

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Blood.

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I'd have liked some measure of revenge by Al... Hearst did, in fact, coldly cut off his finger...

Instead, he has to humiliate himself further to Hearst, before watching him ride out of town, richer and stronger than when he arrived...

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I thought it was v good. It's not fair to judge it as a series finale. No closure does kinda suck. Hopefully we'll get the movies or another season after we finish season 1 of the surf show.

FYI the real life Al Swearingen gets hit by a train in Denver.

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I thought it was v good. It's not fair to judge it as a series finale. No closure does kinda suck. Hopefully we'll get the movies or another season after we finish season 1 of the surf show.

FYI the real life Al Swearingen gets hit by a train in Denver.

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So, the door is still open for another season, maybe? And, the movies aren't a "done deal"?

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I thought it was v good. It's not fair to judge it as a series finale. No closure does kinda suck. Hopefully we'll get the movies or another season after we finish season 1 of the surf show.

FYI the real life Al Swearingen gets hit by a train in Denver.

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So, the door is still open for another season, maybe? And, the movies aren't a "done deal"?

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As far as I know the movies ARE a done deal, but nobody's talking about it right now at all, which makes me wonder if it'll really happen. I have no idea.

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I'll be so disappointed if they leave it as is. Another season (or 3) would be awesome, and the movies would suffice but not be nearly as satisfying.

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Perhaps I have been spoiled by the completely satisfying ending to "Six Feet Under", a show I watched only semi-regularly.

I wanted to see Dan and Johnny lead Wu's chink army through the streets of Deadwood, where they line up against Hearst's Pinkertons. I wanted to see the muddy slop of the thoroughfare replaced with the blood and innards of gutted men. I wanted to see Hearst slap that loopy [censored] Trixie. I wanted to see Bullock hand down some earnest beatings. I wanted to see Hearst retreat as he realizes there are easier places to expand his fortune. I wanted to see Al offer half priced pussy and whiskey as the locals celebrate a hard fought victory. I wanted to see Hearst send his Pinkertons to burn out the town as he left. I wanted to see Swearengen's scowl with his beloved Gem aflame behind him.

Bummer.

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Yeah tolliver is nutso. I had a bit of trouble understanding his line this season. I'll have to brush up via on demand.

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I was quite satisfied with the ending. The fact of the matter is that as much as I love Swearengen, Hearst is just a notch above on the badass scale. Swearengen knew in the end that he just didn't have enough to take him down.

I loved how, even in the face of all odds, Bullock and Charlie never backed down. The end with Bullock telling Hearst to get the hell out of camp or he'll drag him out of camp by his ear, after telling Charlie to stay back, and in the face of all of Hearst's armed men... was chilling.

I'll miss this show.

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I watched the episode again On-demand. It really was an excellent episode.

Here is a writer that I have been following weekly. He is of the opinion this is the best drama that he has ever seen. Some of the actors of the show (Jim Beaver-Ellsworth in particular) have written him to tell him what a spectacular job he has done as TV critic and his interpretation of the show. Anyway he is much better at conveying the episode then I (he is a little more luke warm to the episode):

Link to Excellent Deadwood critic


One other Deadwood link I think is awesome. This is a link to how many time [censored] is uttered in an episode. They also have a [censored] to C**Sucker ratio that I think is quite funny:

[censored]'s per minute

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Do you think Jack, kind of betrayed Al? Giving a headsup to Hearst that Al is prepared for war?

I think he did...

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did this show get cancelled?

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Frustrated. Frustrated, self-destructive and lashing out. Frustrated at bowing before Hearst and getting nothing from it. Frustrated with his injuries. Compare and contrast with EB in a similar situation, left to only mumbling to himself...


In some ways, Deadwood really confounds me... Tolliver was really setup as a foil for Swerenger. An even eviler version of Swerenger the anti-hero. But then as they're still circling each other, Hearst rides in and takes over the whole season. Was Powers Booth incapacited in real life? Did they need to reduce his role for that reason? And then there's the Earps, you'd expect an awful lot more payoff than that... And I have no idea where the acting troop was going. WTF?

OTOH, they really set the whole thing up with Jenny really well. Gradulally working her in as Johnny's sweetheart over several episodes.

Great, great show that will be missed!

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Do you think Jack, kind of betrayed Al? Giving a headsup to Hearst that Al is prepared for war?


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No, I think he was working Hearst (he expressed a desire to do so several times, both to Al and the chubby actress). It was flattery to convince Hearst he's above Deadwood (and that Bullock, Swerengen, etc can be expected to self-destruct on their own without Hearst's involvement) couched with the threat of Hearst winding up stuck in the middle of a war. Hearst is bravest when he has other people to do the fighting for him.

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It didn't occur to me that Jack betrayed Al. On the other hand, I didn't completely get that scene between Jack and Hearst. Specifically, I didn't grasp why Hearst seemed to get angry at Jack.

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I don't think Jack betrayed Al. He was nervous.

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I didn't grasp why Hearst seemed to get angry at Jack.

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Hearst got upset because he realised he was needlessly putting himself in danger and more importantly straying from his true calling (pursuing the colour) and wasting his time in Deadwood.

Hearst doesn't take council from anyone and didn't appreciate Jack pointing out that Hearst had gotten himself mired in a pissing contest. Even though Jack was right, nobody tells Hearst his business.

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I will definitely have to watch it again to really pick up everything, but I mostly enjoyed it. I really wish the good guys could have taken down some of Hearst's henchman for [censored] and giggles though.

Nice flash from Stupid/Jeanine too. Yummy.

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Nice flash from Stupid/Jeanine too. Yummy.

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That girl is breath-takingly beautiful. When she's onscreen, I have trouble taking my eyes off her.

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I liked that this ep was like 100% tension, but they did so much build up for a showdown that it's impossible not to feel let down. I'm sad to know that the movies aren't more ready to go.