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qsdaddy 08-16-2006 02:06 PM

F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 hands.
 
I play only $10-$20 and above. I use to get 24 points per 20 hands in jackpot games and 18 points for non jackpot games. Now it's 15 points for 20 hands in all games jackpot or not upto 30-60. So being gold I use to get 48 points per 20 hands in jackpot games and now only 30 and no bonus points. Points will now come much slower...

canada_dry 08-16-2006 02:20 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 hands.
 
[censored] Party Poker!

Tk79 08-16-2006 02:22 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
I like that they reply to my email telling me how I will get more value for my play under the new system. Apparently cutting the regular points down and eliminating the bonus points is a benefit to me. I guess Im supposed to believe that.

fullhouse 08-16-2006 03:33 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
unbelivable BS...

3 points for 20 raked hands NL50
8 points for 20 raked hands 1/2

WTF?

Fat Nicky 08-16-2006 03:47 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
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8 points for 20 raked hands 1/2


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isn't this an increase for 1/2...didn't it used to be 6 pts per 20 hands.

AngusThermopyle 08-16-2006 03:50 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
Yes. And they lowered it for .50/1.
No more pts for deposits.
Gold/Silver thresholds for attain/retain seem to have changed.

Fat Nicky 08-16-2006 03:53 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
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Gold/Silver thresholds for attain/retain seem to have changed.

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yea...seems to be more lax...

evilganz 08-16-2006 03:53 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
I thought .5/1 NL (my game) had been 4 and is now 5.

I like how they made limit and NL the same and just did it by blind sizes (assuming that I'm reading the table correctly/. Cause 1/2 limit players and 1/2 NL players certainly pay equal amounts in rake.

Jackasses.

bengele 08-16-2006 04:27 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
Where are you seeing the new system. When I go to Players Club -> How to earn Party Points form my account on their web site I get what looks like there old system.

rjoefish 08-16-2006 04:36 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
Looks the same for me too. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

mrjetguy 08-16-2006 05:02 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
Limit is definitely the same still according to PP's site.

LImitPlayer 08-16-2006 05:25 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 hands.
 
They doubled the 2-4 limit points, I used to get 6 points per 20 hands now I get 12. Works for me

RikaKazak 08-16-2006 05:34 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 hands.
 
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They doubled the 2-4 limit points, I used to get 6 points per 20 hands now I get 12. Works for me

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That's the same for 2/4 NL too right??? They raised it?

Nick-Zack 08-16-2006 05:37 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
$22 SNG's have gone from 6 points to 4. That along with the removal of happy hour points is just lovely.

novel20 08-16-2006 05:48 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
So what OP said was wrong? Why people keep bashing PP for nothing? Why don't they bang their head on the wall?

Falc 08-16-2006 05:52 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
Where do you read the changes? When I check the players club page it's the same as always.

AngusThermopyle 08-16-2006 06:02 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
Clear your cache or reload the page:


We have made some changes to the way Players Club points are awarded for our No Limit and Pot Limit games. Points will now be awarded in a new incremental grading system where the higher the table stakes, the more points you will earn.

The points will now be awarded as per the table below:
Limit & No-Limit/Pot-Limit Games
Limit PartyPoints Earned Criteria
$100/200, $50/100 25 for every 20 raked hands played on these tables in a day
$30/60, $25/50, $20/40, $15/30, $10/20, $5/10 15
$15/30, $10/20, $5/10 - Jackpot 15
$3/6, $2/4 - Jackpot 12
$3/6, $2/4 12
$1/2 8
$.50/1 5
$.25/.50 3
$.15/.30, $.10/.20, $.05/.10 2

AngusThermopyle 08-16-2006 06:06 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
also:

Please note we have discontinued the 'Bonus points', but don't worry, any bonus points already in your account won't disappear and you can still spend them at the Party Store. Remember you can now earn points when you play at both PartyCasino.com and PartyPoker.com. Plus you will also earn more points while playing poker tournaments.

astarck 08-16-2006 06:18 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
So 2/4 limit and 2/4NL earn 12 points?

kfellmy 08-16-2006 06:19 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
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[censored] Party Poker!

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Hahahahaha

I have said this for at least two years now.

Why would any one play there when Party obviously do not care about their customers. I know there are plenty of fish there but if you are dissatisfied then move on. If you go to a restaurant and get crappy food or service, are you going to go back?

Unicorns 08-16-2006 07:01 PM

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If you go to a restaurant and get crappy food or service, are you going to go back?

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If the other patrons were walking around handing me bills, i'd consider it

MicroBob 08-16-2006 07:10 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
What are the requirements for silver and gold status now?

If it's easier to attain gold-status then it may work out better for some players (although losing happy-hour double-points and deposit-points and such would still hurt)

Tk79 08-16-2006 07:13 PM

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What are the requirements for silver and gold status now?

If it's easier to attain gold-status then it may work out better for some players (although losing happy-hour double-points and deposit-points and such would still hurt)

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Perhaps you can make more of this than me lol. Its either 12k, 16k, or 35k for gold. You guess...

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k3...6/untitled.jpg

heater 08-16-2006 07:13 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
[ QUOTE ]
Clear your cache or reload the page:


We have made some changes to the way Players Club points are awarded for our No Limit and Pot Limit games. Points will now be awarded in a new incremental grading system where the higher the table stakes, the more points you will earn.

The points will now be awarded as per the table below:
Limit & No-Limit/Pot-Limit Games
Limit PartyPoints Earned Criteria
$100/200, $50/100 25 for every 20 raked hands played on these tables in a day
$30/60, $25/50, $20/40, $15/30, $10/20, $5/10 15
$15/30, $10/20, $5/10 - Jackpot 15
$3/6, $2/4 - Jackpot 12
$3/6, $2/4 12
$1/2 8
$.50/1 5
$.25/.50 3
$.15/.30, $.10/.20, $.05/.10 2

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I've cleared cache and cookies and it's still showing the old info. Are you sure they didn't throw up the new page earlier by mistake and it's been taken down since? I checked in IE, Firefox, and Opera, lol. The old page is still up.

AngusThermopyle 08-16-2006 07:36 PM

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I've cleared cache and cookies and it's still showing the old info. Are you sure they didn't throw up the new page earlier by mistake and it's been taken down since? I checked in IE, Firefox, and Opera, lol. The old page is still up.

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"New" page is still up. lol.
Maybe they just put the "old" one up for a "select few". lol

AngusThermopyle 08-16-2006 07:40 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
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Perhaps you can make more of this than me lol. Its either 12k, 16k, or 35k for gold. You guess...


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12K seems for the next two months, if you note the dates. Guess they will bump you early.
16K seems to be for three months.

35K...no eFing idea.

Or maybe they are all wrong.

It's Party, Jake.

MatthewRyan 08-16-2006 07:45 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
Are 1/2 limit players even paying half of what I'm paying in rake at 1/2nl?

MicroBob 08-16-2006 07:48 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
Thanks for the screen-shot.
Just curious what they're doing and I don't think I can access the party-points page without an account.


I agree that looks awfully confusing and I have no idea what they are talking about.
Whether it's 12k, 16k or 35k to get to gold-level is completely beyond me.


This is consistent Party confusion in their promotions though.
Pretty obvious that their stuff is completely impossible to decipher. It's beyond me how they don't seem to see that.

Just look over your own stuff and it's pretty obvious that none of this makes sense.


They have similar confusion or mis-communication or contradiction on almost every promotion they run.

Monster: Top 2,000 players get entry to monthly OR top 25% of those entered get entry.

Bonuses: Play 1k raked-hands and you COULD get $100. Leads to confusion as to whether you will really get the $100 or not.


Stuff like that.
Once it is brought to their attention by about 100+ customers who are trying to figure out what the hell they are trying to say one would think that it would be obvious that the language on their own site should be reviewed and edited.

Falc 08-16-2006 08:13 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
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I've cleared cache and cookies and it's still showing the old info. Are you sure they didn't throw up the new page earlier by mistake and it's been taken down since? I checked in IE, Firefox, and Opera, lol. The old page is still up.

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"New" page is still up. lol.
Maybe they just put the "old" one up for a "select few". lol

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It's the same for me, the old page is there.

AngusThermopyle, do you mind pasting the new NL-point system too?

AAAA 08-16-2006 08:33 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
limit and no limit are the same.

Twilight 08-16-2006 08:33 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
The point system he posted is the new one used for NL aswell.

AshyLarry 08-16-2006 08:36 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
After clearing my cookies and history, I still receive the old page too. Changing 50NL points from 4 to 3 for 20 hands completely screws me up for the summer sizzler. I'm questiong their business tactics if they really are messing with their point system, without a hint of warning, during a promo that can be entirely ruined by one off day.

ski 08-16-2006 08:40 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 hands.
 
2/4 NL is now 12 points per 20 hands. Its about [censored] time. This new point system makes more sense than pretty much anything PP has done in the past year IMO.

heater 08-16-2006 09:12 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
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I've cleared cache and cookies and it's still showing the old info. Are you sure they didn't throw up the new page earlier by mistake and it's been taken down since? I checked in IE, Firefox, and Opera, lol. The old page is still up.

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"New" page is still up. lol.
Maybe they just put the "old" one up for a "select few". lol

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Yeah, you must be right. I mean it's not like Party has been known in the past to post pages that weren't meant to be up yet and then taken them down later the same day or something.


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Robbie Robb 08-16-2006 09:19 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
Can someone figure out exactly where $25NL falls in this new chart??? It looks to me as if all the amounts there are for limit tables.

heater 08-16-2006 11:08 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
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Can someone figure out exactly where $25NL falls in this new chart??? It looks to me as if all the amounts there are for limit tables.

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I don't know, but I just got this back from VIP:

Dear Kevin,

Thank you for contacting us.

We can understand your concern that we have not informed you of the changes to the Points structure.

The new structure will be available on the web site within the next 12 hours, if you still have problems seeing this then please do not hesitate to contact us.

Thank you for choosing us as you're on line Gaming Site!

Joyce
PartyPoker Customer Care

LesJ 08-16-2006 11:19 PM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
Dear Les,

Thank you for contacting us.

With regards to your email, the Players Club Points structure has changed and
will take effect from today.

The website is in the process of being updated and we hope to have the new
structure on there very soon.

Kind regards

Diane
PartyPoker Customer Care

daveymck 08-17-2006 05:45 AM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 ha
 
I think what will be key to this new points system is if they adjust the store prices down to reflect the lack of bonus points, but its Party so I guess they wont.

I am not surprised they got rid of the deposit bonus points but am surprised they got rid of the raked day and happy hour type ones as they potentially encourage play.

Sciolist 08-17-2006 06:03 AM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 hands.
 
The points were basically worthless to begin with anyway. The VIP promotion is also (as far as I can see), basically worthless. It's not like I'm going to change my playing habits - what choice do I have? - but I'm not going to start playing more like I would have done with the last VIP bonus...

AA Suited 08-17-2006 11:41 AM

Re: F.Y.I. .No bonus points and lowered the amount of points per 20 hands.
 
i've stopped playing on Party because of the stupid missing buttons bug if you do 5 or more SnGs.

I was going to play again (4table) just to maintain my Gold Status. (35k points to maintain per quarter, already have 30k.)

Now i need another 12k or 16k to maintain for this quarter?! SCREW THEM!


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