($27) AJ push or raise ?
 

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Preflop: Hero is in CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t250</font>

i was torn between pushing and raising. raise + cbet looks scary, push looks a lot easier

Re: ($27) AJ push or raise ?
 

ALL in or raise 350 or you might get pushed around or drawn out on by a bigger stack -

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yeah, r+c costs almost half your stack. i like a push.

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I like a raise &amp; a c-bet here. That way you can get away from your hand cheaply if re-raised preflop, unless you have reads that you are beating a villain's range. I also like that you raised to 250. Ace Eleven, raising to 350 is a bad idea here IMO. You are committing to much of your stack. If you're gonna raise to 350 you might as well push.

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I overpushed with ~12-13 BB in a $27 yesterday and got called by something like A8s. The push is likely +EV, anyway; it makes the rest of the hand really easy; and every-so-often there's a crazy call. For me, that all adds up to pushing, even if it isn't "real poker". Of course, we're not talking about "real poker", we're talking about SNGs.

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I like the push better as well

IMO 350 is much beter a bet than 250 as the BB will think much harder about calling another 250 than 150, especially if player has been tight.

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By making it 350 you just bloat the pot for the flop when you have a short stack. This is not a good idea. By making it 350 preflop you pretty much have tio committ youself with any c-bet you make. By making it 250 preflop you can bet 250-300 on the flop &amp; get away from the hand if you're behind w/ around 800 chips or so, where you maintain some fold equity.

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BTW, if it is common for people to call a push with A8s in this spot then I think a push is probably better.

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BTW, if it is common for people to call a push with A8s in this spot then I think a push is probably better.

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Re: ($27) AJ push or raise ?
 

depends who is pushing.

I favor a push, however 250 does not tell me "Strong Hand"

I still like 350 better that 250 here. Blinds are much more likely to fold to this bet IMO

Hope these posts helped.

PEACE

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depends who is pushing.

I favor a push, however 250 does not tell me "Strong Hand"

I still like 350 better that 250 here. Blinds are much more likely to fold to this bet IMO

Hope these posts helped.

PEACE

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If you're so worried about the blind folding then you should push because by making a 350 bet preflop you're pretty much going to have to push the flop if you make a c-bet anyway. Making a 250 bet allows us to take down the blinds cheaply and gives us an escape route. If we are called we may have the best hand &amp; we can still make a bet on the flop &amp; get away from our hand if we think we are behind.

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I like the 250. It takes the blinds most of the time. You can get away if someone pushes. If someone calls, oh well, play the flop. With 1100 chips I'd push.

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I push this one. However, a raise to 2,5 BB is perfectly fine in the later levels. To all the people that tell him to raise to 350: what's your plan on the flop when he miss it? Make a c-bet to 500? That will leave him with ~500 chips. People that fold to a 2,5 BB raise will fold to a 3,5 BB raise also, in the late levels.

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I like 350

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I like 350

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No offense but I think you should listen to some of the advice that the more experienced posters are giving you here. We have good reasons for making the 250 raise. Your only reason for making a 350 raise is that it takes down the blinds more, yet you don't realize the negatives of the 350 raise. If you're going to make it 350, and if your only concern is how often you can take down the pot preflop, then you should just push preflop.

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I'll push this
I don't like the 3.5 and the 2.5 raises.The push is the best way to take these blinds.You'll miss a lot of times the flop when you raise and then what do you do?

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What happened to 3xBB raise? Are 2.5xBB raises or 3.5xBB regular in the higher buy-ins? I rarely see them in the $11s or $22s on stars when someone is making standard position raise.

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I did already state I'd prefer a push here. I understand your reasoning, but disagree slightly, have a nice day. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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I agree

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What happened to 3xBB raise? Are 2.5xBB raises or 3.5xBB regular in the higher buy-ins? I rarely see them in the $11s or $22s on stars when someone is making standard position raise.

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3xBB is still standard. The reason he's raising 2.5xBB here is because of his stack size. It allows him to make a c-bet on the flop, yet still get away from his hand if he's beat.

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I consider 3.5x a strong raise here &amp; 2.5x a weaker raise.

Especially when the BB is almost 2x your stack.

Another reason why the push all in is the best choice here.

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Would you make the 2.5xBB raise with AA or bigger? Go all-in? The 2.5xBB would give you a few options to play post-flop.

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Would you make the 2.5xBB raise with AA or bigger? Go all-in? The 2.5xBB would give you a few options to play post-flop.

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If I had been making 2.5xBB raises recently then I would do so w/ AA as well. Otherwise it looks a little suspicious. Otherwise I would raise 3xBB.

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You only have 13xBB left. I would probably push it here.

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I like the 250. It takes the blinds most of the time. You can get away if someone pushes. If someone calls, oh well, play the flop. With 1100 chips I'd push.

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the raise size all depends on the BB's propensity for calling raises from the CO. if you have a tight, straight-forward rock in the BB I like the 250 raise for the reasons mentioned above.

because of the awkward stack size (the old 13-11 BB quandry) i think a bet of 250 size makes sense. I think if you're going to bet 350 here you might as well push.

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nh