what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

why would he call this?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB (twin-caracas)/ ($985)
BB ($927.75)
DaPlaya ($985)
MP1 ($192.25)
MP2 ($868)
CO ($1121.25)
Button (Lyric)/ ($1377)

Preflop: DaPlaya is UTG with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
Lyric: raises $30 to $40
twin-caracas: raises $140 to $180
fitz420: folds
Lyric: raises $1197 to $1377 and is all-in
twin-caracas: calls $805 and is all-in
Flop: ($2372) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($2372) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($2372) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

*** SHOW DOWN ***
twin-caracas: shows [8h 9c] (three of a kind, Fours)
Lyric: shows [As 7s] (three of a kind, Fours - Ace kicker)
Lyric collected $1977 from pot
Final Pot: $2372

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

he is fish.

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

he has a lot of money for a fish

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he has a lot of money for a fish

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and?

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

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he has a lot of money for a fish

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So does BBuddy.

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

he knows lyric knows he 3bets light and is capable of 4betting light to try and counter, so he knows his cards have to be live often. so the call isnt really that far from breakeven, and great for metagame since he can get lyric to go easier on the preflop 4bets in future by showing him he doesnt like being pushed around and is willing to gamble.

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

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he knows lyric knows he 3bets light and is capable of 4betting light to try and counter, so he knows his cards have to be live often. so the call isnt really that far from breakeven, and great for metagame since he can get lyric to go easier on the preflop 4bets in future by showing him he doesnt like being pushed around and is willing to gamble.

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So he calls with 98o and thats supposed to make OP tighten up with the 4-bets?

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

it shows that he's willing to gamble. OP might not be comfortable doing that in big pots, so it could slow down his 4bets in that manner.

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

Lyric is properly rolled for these games so he I am sure he is comfortable playing big pots against loose callers, and its not like twin called the AI with a small pair or AJo, it was 98o.

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

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it shows that he's willing to gamble. OP might not be comfortable doing that in big pots, so it could slow down his 4bets in that manner.

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This is actually a fair point.

When guys start calling huge bets pre flop allin with suited connecters, I usually will be forced to tighten up my reraising range. The last thing I want to do is put a hand like AQ allin against 54s.

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

his family is one of the richest in south america[/halfhearted sarcasm but i think its true]

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

Winning that 20% of your stacks must be brutal, you definitely don't want to go around doing that.

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

Twin plays 200/400NL I am sure he sometimes gets very bored at 5/10 and tilts.

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

LOLOLOLOLOL

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

whoa lyric buddy i havent seen this out of you before

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

Chip dump

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

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Chip dump

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Thats what it looked like - but as others have mentioned I think there's probably other reasons for the play: table image, boredom etc. There's no doubt that Lyric like reraising preflop.

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

Nothing very strange with that hand.

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

ya this is a great way to chip dump. get allin preflop with a 60% edge

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

i'm pretty sure it has something to do with how much of a maniac twin plays like.

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

Isnt this how twin always plays?

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

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i'm pretty sure it has something to do with how much of a maniac twin plays like.

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Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

POKERSTARS GAME #5996780943: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($5/$10) - 2006/08/21 - 04:20:31 (ET)
Table 'Nephele' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: twin-caracas ($2145.30 in chips)
Seat 5: Born2DogBaby ($970 in chips)
Born2DogBaby: posts small blind $5
twin-caracas: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Born2DogBaby [8d 8c]
Born2DogBaby: raises $30 to $40
twin-caracas: raises $100 to $140
Born2DogBaby: raises $830 to $970 and is all-in
twin-caracas: calls $830
*** FLOP *** [6h 3s 3h]
*** TURN *** [6h 3s 3h] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [6h 3s 3h Js] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Born2DogBaby: shows [8d 8c] (two pair, Eights and Threes)
twin-caracas: mucks hand
Born2DogBaby collected $1939 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1940 | Rake $1
Board [6h 3s 3h Js Kc]
Seat 2: twin-caracas (button) (big blind) mucked [Tc 6c]
Seat 5: Born2DogBaby (small blind) showed [8d 8c] and won ($1939) with two pair, Eights and Threes

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

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The last thing I want to do is put a hand like AQ allin against 54s.

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What??

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

Me neither... the last time he did it vs me, he had A5o (and forced me to lay down 8To pre-flop [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img])

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

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POKERSTARS GAME #5996780943: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($5/$10) - 2006/08/21 - 04:20:31 (ET)
Table 'Nephele' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: twin-caracas ($2145.30 in chips)
Seat 5: Born2DogBaby ($970 in chips)
Born2DogBaby: posts small blind $5
twin-caracas: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Born2DogBaby [8d 8c]
Born2DogBaby: raises $30 to $40
twin-caracas: raises $100 to $140
Born2DogBaby: raises $830 to $970 and is all-in
twin-caracas: calls $830
*** FLOP *** [6h 3s 3h]
*** TURN *** [6h 3s 3h] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [6h 3s 3h Js] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Born2DogBaby: shows [8d 8c] (two pair, Eights and Threes)
twin-caracas: mucks hand
Born2DogBaby collected $1939 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1940 | Rake $1
Board [6h 3s 3h Js Kc]
Seat 2: twin-caracas (button) (big blind) mucked [Tc 6c]
Seat 5: Born2DogBaby (small blind) showed [8d 8c] and won ($1939) with two pair, Eights and Threes

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wow.. i got nothing on that lol.

Re: what is with this call from twin caracas?
 

whats worse? calling off all of your stack with 89 or puting all of your stack in relatively in the dark with A7off?

twin knows what he has, and thinks (correctly) that he isnt in that tough of shape.

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whats worse? calling off all of your stack with 89 or puting all of your stack in relatively in the dark with A7off?

twin knows what he has, and thinks (correctly) that he isnt in that tough of shape.

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and im still not sure if you are a gimmick acct...