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spino1i 08-16-2006 06:32 AM

Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
Im thinking of whoring these guys:
http://www.lasseters.com.au
anyone heard of these guys? Good? bad? They seem to have a pretty sweet bonus. Basically 100$ bonus for 2000$ wagered and you can do it up to 5 times.

Lessu 08-16-2006 07:44 AM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
It's a sticky so no thanks

sonneti 08-16-2006 08:05 AM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
They are listed on casinomeister.com so should be fine, he even has an extra $50 bonus if you signup through one of his links.

ps: stickys rock [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

terrellk11 08-16-2006 08:39 AM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
I busted, but I know several people that his this site for large sums of money and were paid with very little hassle. Highly reputable casino.

Ballers83 08-16-2006 08:42 AM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
Lasseter's Casino is fine, but the software is sooooo slow. Seriously, playing this made me want to kill myself.

1huskerfan 08-16-2006 10:36 AM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
Slower than CON?
Their software seriously almost put me on tilt. Nothing like being forced to look at your busted hand for 3 seconds.

WLVRYN 08-16-2006 01:33 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
I'll tell you a secret to help at Lasseters and AusVegas: The bonus is cashable, even though the T&C's say its sticky. Dont tell anyone I told you.

Ainex 08-16-2006 01:35 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
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I'll tell you a secret to help at Lasseters and AusVegas: The bonus is cashable, even though the T&C's say its sticky. Dont tell anyone I told you.

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I was considering hitting this up regardless for the GG point but now I think I definitely will give it a go.

Ballers83 08-16-2006 01:35 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
Yes, its slower than CON. I ended up flat betting $50 a hand and busted because it took so long to finish up the WR at $10 a hand.

JPT III 08-16-2006 02:04 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
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Im thinking of whoring these guys:
http://www.lasseters.com.au
anyone heard of these guys? Good? bad? They seem to have a pretty sweet bonus. Basically 100$ bonus for 2000$ wagered and you can do it up to 5 times.

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Careful! The T&Cs require 50x(B+D) for all BJ and VP. That's a WR of 10K, with an approximate expected loss of $50, leaving only (approx) an EV of $50 -- on a $100 deposit/sticky. Not the greatest, although the chance to do it 5 times is nice.

Badger 08-16-2006 06:21 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
Boogster.com will give you 10k points ($100 value, or even cash in poker gift certs) to go through them. That makes it kind of risk free. PM me if you'd be kind enough to use me as a referral for this. (I'd get 1k points)

FourNickel 08-16-2006 06:34 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
Are Americans allowed?

FourNickel 08-16-2006 06:48 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
Seriously? Can anyone else confirm it is not sticky?

Badger 08-16-2006 06:55 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
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Seriously? Can anyone else confirm it is not sticky?

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I can confirm this happened to me at Casino Las Vegas or Lasseters. I forget which.

FourNickel 08-16-2006 07:46 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
At casinobonuspages.com is says "First Withdrawal must be sent by check, subsequent Neteller withdrawals processed in under 48 hours" Is this true, and what is the best game to clear this bonus with. Thanks for the help.

ottsville 08-17-2006 12:08 AM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
I cashed my bonus

mojack 08-17-2006 12:26 AM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
Is BJ still the game of choice here, even with the 50x req? Or is war or 3 card poker better?

And with the sticky/cashable debate, do you still play a sticky strategy in case? Have yet to do a sticky, but this might be a place to start.

Ballers83 08-17-2006 08:51 AM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
Ya, definitely still play BJ. This is indeed a cashable. I still played this like a sticky because the software is sooo damn slow. If I flat bet like $10 a hand, it would take like 5 hrs to clear the 10k WR. Just play it like a sticky and bet at least $50 a hand. When you hit your target, you can go back to flat betting $5 or $10 a hand to meet the WR.

Badger 08-17-2006 01:06 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
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Ya, definitely still play BJ. This is indeed a cashable. I still played this like a sticky because the software is sooo damn slow. If I flat bet like $10 a hand, it would take like 5 hrs to clear the 10k WR. Just play it like a sticky and bet at least $50 a hand. When you hit your target, you can go back to flat betting $5 or $10 a hand to meet the WR.

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When I play 100/100 stickies I bet $200 the first hand $400 the second. How much does it hurt your EV to bet $50/hand?

136913691369 08-17-2006 01:15 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
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Ya, definitely still play BJ. This is indeed a cashable. I still played this like a sticky because the software is sooo damn slow. If I flat bet like $10 a hand, it would take like 5 hrs to clear the 10k WR. Just play it like a sticky and bet at least $50 a hand. When you hit your target, you can go back to flat betting $5 or $10 a hand to meet the WR.

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When I play 100/100 stickies I bet $200 the first hand $400 the second. How much does it hurt your EV to bet $50/hand?

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It hurts your EV betting 200 the first hand because you can't split or double. IMO optimum betting would be half your balance until you reach your target

Ballers83 08-17-2006 01:38 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
Well, if you leave no money for doubling or splitting opportunities, the HA becomes like 3% or something (Check WOO). I usually bet around 25-50% of the D+B, so for $100+$100, I usually bet like $50 a hand. Works out fine for me

Badger 08-17-2006 01:57 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
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It hurts your EV betting 200 the first hand because you can't split or double. IMO optimum betting would be half your balance until you reach your target

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Well, if you leave no money for doubling or splitting opportunities, the HA becomes like 3% or something (Check WOO). I usually bet around 25-50% of the D+B, so for $100+$100, I usually bet like $50 a hand. Works out fine for me

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I checked WoO for this number and didn't find it. If you're betting 50% of the D+B, keep in mind a few hands become better not to split if you can't double afterwards. So, if the HA is 3% my EV is $64.65 (two bets of everything in a row)
(.485*.485)600-(1-.485*.485)(100)=64.65

Can someone show me the EV of betting 1/4 D+B?

136913691369 08-17-2006 02:32 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
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an someone show me the EV of betting 1/4 D+B?

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For stickies, the EV is largely dependant on how high your target is... the higher the target the greater the EV (and the greater chance you will bust).

For a 100+100 with a target of $800 assuming negligible HA and WR the EV would be: (this is Izverg's formula so I can't explain it any further) p=probability you will bust

p= target-(bonus+deposit)/target
800-(200)/800=0.75 so 75% of the time you will bust.

EV= p*bonus amount
0.75*100= $75

I don't know the exact difference in EV between betting 1/4 or 1/2 the d+b, but I know that betting 1/2 will give a greater EV because as we should all know by now betting bigger increases EV.

so in order of increasing EV
betting the whole d+b (lowest EV because of the extra HA from no doubles/splits).... betting 1/4 d+b.... betting 1/2 d+b

JPT III 08-17-2006 04:51 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
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When I play 100/100 stickies I bet $200 the first hand $400 the second. How much does it hurt your EV to bet $50/hand?

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Badger's strategy, of course, maximizes EV but for the negative impact of not being permitted to double or split (as discussed on this forum). However, there is another potential pitfall that you should be aware of: those pescky T&Cs!

many of them, in defining the wagering requirement, say something like:

20 times your deposit plus bonus; or
100 times your maximum wager.

WHICHEVER IS GREATER SHALL APPLY

You go and make a $200 wager at one of these places, and your WR just went to 20K. So be careful.

JackOfSpeed 08-17-2006 05:14 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
Nice find, OP. $ or Euros, anyone?

syncmaster 08-18-2006 03:28 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
I tryed signing up for this today, I said I was from U.S.A. and got a drop down list to pick my state. However they didn't have my state, along with 4 others. I contacted support, here is the conversation.

_____________________
Shane W >> Hello and welcome to Lasseters Online, How may I help you?

Customer Said >> I am trying to signup right now, I am in the U.S. When I go to pick a state, I don't see mine.

Shane W >> unfortunately there are 5 US states we don't allow registration from, IN, MN, MO ,MS and NV

Shane W >> this is due to potential conflicts with already existing gambling establishments in your states
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I couldn't get a straight anwser from him. Anyone know why this is?

Ballers83 08-18-2006 04:09 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
Nothing you do do bro... Just hit another casino.

Badger 08-18-2006 07:22 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
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When I play 100/100 stickies I bet $200 the first hand $400 the second. How much does it hurt your EV to bet $50/hand?

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Badger's strategy, of course, maximizes EV but for the negative impact of not being permitted to double or split (as discussed on this forum). However, there is another potential pitfall that you should be aware of: those pescky T&Cs!

many of them, in defining the wagering requirement, say something like:

20 times your deposit plus bonus; or
100 times your maximum wager.

WHICHEVER IS GREATER SHALL APPLY

You go and make a $200 wager at one of these places, and your WR just went to 20K. So be careful.

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Yes, I always watch out for this. Lasseters and AusVegas are the only two I've seen thus far. I haven't done amny casinos.

So no definitive answer on what strategy has the most EV?

stephan 08-23-2006 05:04 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
Doing ausvegas is ok if you do lasseters? Has anyone made a big cashout from Lasseters? I think I had one of the luckiest runs possible (probably 1% or less likelyhood). I deposited with $100, got the $100 bonus and I'm ready to cashout $800 after betting $10/hand. Hopefully i don't get stiffed.

FreeOffersNow 08-23-2006 05:10 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
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Doing ausvegas is ok if you do lasseters? Has anyone made a big cashout from Lasseters? I think I had one of the luckiest runs possible (probably 1% or less likelyhood). I deposited with $100, got the $100 bonus and I'm ready to cashout $800 after betting $10/hand. Hopefully i don't get stiffed.

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Yes, doing AusVegas is ok if you've done Lasseters. Also, I've cashed out $420 from Lasseters...they require your first withdrawal be made by check, though. Congrats!

supercheval 08-23-2006 05:48 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
It is not clear in their terms, anyone know if you can have another bonus once u've withdrew some money already? Let's say I deposit 100 get 100 bonus, complete the wagering requirement and finish at 500$. I then withdraw it all... can I redeposit and get another 100$ bonus?

FreeOffersNow 08-23-2006 08:25 PM

Re: Lasseter\'s Casino anyone?
 
supercheval, the following statement applies directly to your question: "Each deposit and the resulting bonus must be wagered to extinction or withdrawn, prior to making your next deposit." It would be my understanding that this means you must have a $0 balance (either because you lost it all or withdrew your balance) to be eligible for a second (third, fourth, or fifth) deposit bonus. Hope this helps!

Additionally, I forgot to mention that CasinoCashUnlimited.com offers a $115 payout ($100 minimum deposit + you must accept the bonus) for Lasseters Casino. We generally offer a $115 payout ($100 minimum deposit + you must accept the bonus) for AusVegas Casino as well, however, the offer has been removed for the remainder of the month as AusVegas has exceeded their budget this month.


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