Multiple accounts in a tournament from the same IP address?
 

This is not a cheating post (and forgive my computer ignorance).

Sometimes my bro-in-laws or some friends will be visiting my house, and since they like poker , and I have a few computers, we'll try to play some online poker together (they all have their own accounts, of course). But if we try to play an MTT (or sit at the same SNG table), the software blocks us.

Is there any way around this? It seems pretty reasonable that a bunch of people might all want to log in and play a tournament against each other from the same location, with no intention of cheating.

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I think it depends on the site, but most sites I believe block this kind of thing.

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It seems pretty reasonable that a bunch of people might all want to log in and play a tournament against each other from the same location, with no intention of cheating.

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Totally reasonable. I'd be thrilled if I was in a tournament against you. WTF?

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It seems pretty reasonable that a bunch of people might all want to log in and play a tournament against each other from the same location, with no intention of cheating.

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If everyone were honest this would seem perfectly reasonable, however with many instances of cheating (in just this manner) already documented, no honest and knowledgable player will want to play any site that allows this.

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with no intention of cheating.

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The road to Justin's grandmother's house is paved with good intentions.

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6 person SNG, and you and your 4 cousins playing together against a fish. Yeah, right.

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Totally reasonable. I'd be thrilled if I was in a tournament against you. WTF?

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I'm not sure what you mean by this. I guess you are assuming that 3 people under the same roof cannot participate in a tournament without cheating. I disagree.

My brothers-in-law live in another state. Occasionally we get together for the holidays, etc. We'd like to be able to play an online tournament together for fun. I can understand why the online sites need to be vigilant - but assuming the only reason to play from the same location is for the purposes of cheating, is ridiculous.

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Totally reasonable. I'd be thrilled if I was in a tournament against you. WTF?

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I'm not sure what you mean by this. I guess you are assuming that 3 people under the same roof cannot participate in a tournament without cheating. I disagree.

My brothers-in-law live in another state. Occasionally we get together for the holidays, etc. We'd like to be able to play an online tournament together for fun. I can understand why the online sites need to be vigilant - but assuming the only reason to play from the same location is for the purposes of cheating, is ridiculous.

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*sigh*

The point is that the positive of preventing collusive behavior outweighs the negative of preventing you and your buddies play in the same physical location.

I mean, buy a deck of cards and grab the penny jar.

That said, my oldroomate and I would play separately over the same connection (and presumably same IP) address. Party just wouldn't let us join the same table (rightly so).

We found this out when my roomie tried to come into my room to razz me. I was actually happy to hear it.

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What about a private tourney?

Or like someone said, just deal out the cards, it's more fun that way.

BTW, why wouldn't you just play in your own separate homes in the same tourney, rather than wait till you're all together? That makes more sense.

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Seriously, it pains me to think that people would rather play online than live in this situation.

It reminds me of my ex who would bitch about me never spending any quality time with her. Of course her idea of QT was the two of us sitting on the couch watching friends reruns while not talking.

Get the deck of cards and some pennies and get everyone involved.

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Totally reasonable. I'd be thrilled if I was in a tournament against you. WTF?

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I'm not sure what you mean by this. I guess you are assuming that 3 people under the same roof cannot participate in a tournament without cheating. I disagree.

My brothers-in-law live in another state. Occasionally we get together for the holidays, etc. We'd like to be able to play an online tournament together for fun. I can understand why the online sites need to be vigilant - but assuming the only reason to play from the same location is for the purposes of cheating, is ridiculous.

[/ QUOTE ]I don't understand this....your family lives far away. You can play online anytime against each other in your own houses. Yet the one time you get to see them and spend time with them, you want to go into different rooms and play poker? Why not actually do something where you can interact with them while they're visiting and save this for when you're in different states?

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but assuming the only reason to play from the same location is for the purposes of cheating, is ridiculous.

[/ QUOTE ]No, its not. Its smart. If any site allowed you to do this, I would instantly stop playing there. I'm sure that many feel like me.

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I don't know about SNG's...but I thought most sites allow you to play in the same MTT. Granted you won't be at the same tables. The software keeps the same IP from playing on the same table (until you get closer to the final table at least).

Recall reading two people from same house (husband and wife) getting away with it. Although maybe they got the ok from support first...or maybe they stopped allowing that because of possible issues with cheating.

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What sites don't allow this? I've done it on UB and Stars, though not since a week or so after the ZJ scandal broke, so policies may have changed.

I'm going to be annoyed if my roommate wants to play FTOPS or WCOOP HORSE and we aren't both allowed to. It's not like your NLHE donkaments where most of the time you can just wander to any other online site and play a similar tournament.

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im pretty sure u can play MTT's from same ip, just not sng's. no?

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I don't know about SNG's...but I thought most sites allow you to play in the same MTT. Granted you won't be at the same tables. The software keeps the same IP from playing on the same table (until you get closer to the final table at least).

Recall reading two people from same house (husband and wife) getting away with it. Although maybe they got the ok from support first...or maybe they stopped allowing that because of possible issues with cheating.

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You're incorrect about the software doing that I think. Me and my buddy are not allowed to sit at the same SnG or cash game table because I have logged in from his computer before. Yet we've played in the same MTT and been sat together at the very first table before.

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Set up a private tourney, I think then you can play from the same IP.

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Seriously, it pains me to think that people would rather play online than live in this situation.

It reminds me of my ex who would bitch about me never spending any quality time with her. Of course her idea of QT was the two of us sitting on the couch watching friends reruns while not talking.

Get the deck of cards and some pennies and get everyone involved.

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You do know the definition of "Quality Time" according to a woman? It doesn't count as Quality Time if the boyfriend's not miserable doing whatever the GF has selected to do.

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Seriously, it pains me to think that people would rather play online than live in this situation.

It reminds me of my ex who would bitch about me never spending any quality time with her. Of course her idea of QT was the two of us sitting on the couch watching friends reruns while not talking.

Get the deck of cards and some pennies and get everyone involved.

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Sharing this post with my wife and asking, "sound familiar?" was a really bad idea.

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but assuming the only reason to play from the same location is for the purposes of cheating, is ridiculous.

[/ QUOTE ]No, its not. Its smart. If any site allowed you to do this, I would instantly stop playing there. I'm sure that many feel like me.

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I don't assume that the ONLY reason to play from the same location is to cheat. I believe that some people out there really do like to play tourneys together in this way.

But it's obvious that they can't freaking allow this because it would make cheating extremely easy (even though it kind of already is with IM and cell-phones, etc).

I suspect that if they allowed this for super-duper exceptions where they could really prove that it's just a bunch of relatives who can probably be trusted that EVEN THEN there would be cheating incidents because the temptation to say something to your bud when you get at the same table would be just too great even for people who didn't even intend on cheating in the first place.


"Hey dude!! I've got Kings so don't play this hand."
"Cool, I had ATs and was going to try to steal your blind."

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I don't know about SNG's...but I thought most sites allow you to play in the same MTT. Granted you won't be at the same tables. The software keeps the same IP from playing on the same table (until you get closer to the final table at least).

Recall reading two people from same house (husband and wife) getting away with it. Although maybe they got the ok from support first...or maybe they stopped allowing that because of possible issues with cheating.

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My wife & I both play online. In light of the recent multi-accounting issues I sent each sight an email enquiring about their stance on husband & wife playing. Stars responded by stating that a) we would not be able to play at the same cash game table or 1-table SNG (didn't mention anything about the 2/3table SNG) and b) we would be able to play together in any MTT. The software is designed to prevent people with the same IP address from landing at the same table. Obviously this does not apply to the final table. The email went on to conclude that if we both reached the final table Stars "would wish both of us good luck". They've also apparently made a note on our accounts that we are husband and wife.

UB's response was somewhat different: they basically stated that their software wasn't smart enough to keep us apart and recommended that we don't play tourneys together. So we withdrew our money.

I've actually finally (as in within the past 7 days) made a deposit on Party and was called by Party support to confirm information and the support rep asked if I know **** **** (wife's name). I said that she was my wife so obviously they cross-referenced IP or street address or something so it's also marked on our accounts there that we're husband and wife.

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My wife & I both play online. In light of the recent multi-accounting issues I sent each sight an email enquiring about their stance on husband & wife playing. Stars responded by stating that a) we would not be able to play at the same cash game table or 1-table SNG (didn't mention anything about the 2/3table SNG) and b) we would be able to play together in any MTT. The software is designed to prevent people with the same IP address from landing at the same table. Obviously this does not apply to the final table. The email went on to conclude that if we both reached the final table Stars "would wish both of us good luck". They've also apparently made a note on our accounts that we are husband and wife.

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To me this is a reasonable response, and one that I'd expect from a well-run company like Stars.

As for, "why not just break out the penny jar and play live" - we do that, of course. The only reason we consider playing an MTT online, is that we find a tourney with many entrants more fun and interesting than playing 3-handed (the wives have no interest). We rarely play poker online together when we are at our repsective homes... not sure why. I think they just aren't that into playing, except when we all get together and talk about getting a poker game going.

I think an email to Stars, with my brother-in-law's screennames, sounds like a good idea. Thanks for the replies.