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Qwartzy 08-08-2006 01:00 AM

WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
Jamie Gold has accelerated to almost double the chip count of the player in second place. Are we looking at the next WSOP champ? I hope more info about Gold will surface in the days to come.

Here is the top 18 according to CardPlayer:


1. Jamie Gold 13,000,000


2. Erik Friberg 7,735,000


3. David Einhorn 6,905,000


4. Rhett Butler 6,400,000


5. Dan Nassif 5,430,000


6. Richard Lee 5,275,000


6. Michael Binger 5,275,000


8. William Thorsson 3,765,000


9. Jeffrey Lisandro 3,750,000


10. Kevin Aaronson 3,670,000


11. Doug Kim 3,595,000


12. John Magill 3,275,000


13. Allen Cunningham 2,650,000


14. Leif Force 2,265,000


15. Kevin O'Donnell 2,130,000


16. Prahlad Friedman 1,850,000


17. Eric Lynch 1,785,000


18. Lee Kort 1,700,000

mlagoo 08-08-2006 01:05 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
i think gold winning will depend primarily on his ability to accumulate all the chips by the end of the final table. discuss.

neverforgetlol 08-08-2006 01:09 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
I think it will be hard to make a good prediction until we get to the final table to be honest. so much can happen between now and then. gold could be the next andrew black.

benfranklin 08-08-2006 01:10 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
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i think gold winning will depend primarily on his ability to accumulate all the chips by the end of the final table. discuss.

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I believe that that is the Fundamental Theorem of Donkaments. You may have the basis for a best selling book there.

Bigdaddydvo 08-08-2006 01:16 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
Andrew Black found a way to donk away a huge stack last year, while Joe Hachem nursed his short stack, picked his spots, and went on to win the bracelet.

In other words, a big stack is nice, but it's anything but a guarantee.

DemonDeac 08-08-2006 01:29 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
the way people have been getting knocked out in this tourney, nursing the short stack is definitely a viable strategy waiting for your spots while slowlymoving up the pay ladder

Lawman007 08-08-2006 01:34 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
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Andrew Black found a way to donk away a huge stack last year

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Yeah, and Black actually made it to the final table. Gold isn't even there yet.

The all-in donkfest that is now the Main Event makes it even more likely that Gold will self-destruct. The chip lead with 27 players left really doesn't mean that much. Gold is only two hands away from busting out.

Qwartzy 08-08-2006 01:35 AM

Jamie Gold Info
 
Jamie Gold is currently a TV producer who used to be a Hollywood agent. Among his clients were Donny Wahlberg, Brandi, James Galdonfini, and Felicity Huffman. He lives in Malibu, California, and plays at the Commerce and the Hustler.

Here is his bio: Jamie Gold Bio

Given his background, he must have very good "people skills". In fact, he claims he has no style. What he does is dependent on who he is facing.

Let's see if he can hold on to his lead.

JCool 08-08-2006 01:39 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
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i think gold winning will depend primarily on everyone else's ability to donk off all the chips by the end of the final table. discuss.

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Lawman007 08-08-2006 01:39 AM

Re: Jamie Gold Info
 
[ QUOTE ]
Jamie Gold is currently a TV producer who used to be a Hollywood agent. Among his clients were Donny Wahlberg, Brandi, James Galdonfini, and Felicity Huffman. He lives in Malibu, California, and plays at the Commerce and the Hustler.

Here is his bio: Jamie Gold Bio



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Gee, that would be great to have the 12 million dollars won by some multimillionaire Hollywood producer who probably already has more than that. LOL

Qwartzy 08-08-2006 01:48 AM

Re: Jamie Gold Info
 
"The rich get richer and the poor..."

Ignignokt 08-08-2006 02:06 AM

Re: Jamie Gold Info
 
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Given his background, he must have very good "people skills". In fact, he claims he has no style. What he does is dependent on who he is facing.

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Overheard by Pauly:

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"Jamie Gold has no class," one British writer said. "And he's an awful player."

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My money's still on crazy monkey tilt before the event is over.

Superfluous Man 08-08-2006 02:18 AM

Re: Jamie Gold Info
 
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Jamie Gold is currently a TV producer who used to be a Hollywood agent. Among his clients were Donny Wahlberg


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Oh boy I hope he manages his chips as well as he managed the career of my favorite New Kid! Wasn't he the one who fell through the trap door on stage?

volcano1976 08-08-2006 02:33 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
I realy wish Cunningham or Friedman to have it.

pocketjesuits 08-08-2006 02:33 AM

Re: Jamie Gold Info
 
Here are the bets I just made (and no, the lines aren't good anymore):


Eric Lynch to win
+3800
Risked: $250
To win: $9,500

Kevin O'Donnell to win
+6763
Risked: $250
To win: $16,907.5

Leif Force to win
+6464
Risked: $250
To win: $16,160

Lee Kort to win
+7962
Risked: $250
To win: $19,905

Fred Goldberg to win
+10000
Risked: $250
To win: $25,000

Rob Roseman to win
+10000
Risked: $500
To win: $50,000

Sirious Jamshidi to win
+10000
Risked: $250
To win: $25,000

Dustin Holmes to win
+10000
Risked: $250
To win: $25,000


Will the Winner Be American?
Yes: -305
Risked: $762.5
To Win: $250

Will Gold, Friberg or Einhorn win?
No: -249
Risked: $622.5
To Win: $250

Jamie Gold v. Allan Cunningham
Gold: -246
Risked: $615
To Win: $250

Eric Lynch v. Prahlad Friedman
Lynch: +151
Risked: $250
To win: $377.5

Eric Lynch v. Prahlad Friedman
Lynch: +139
Risked: $250
To win: $347.5

Eric Lynch v. Prahlad Friedman
Lynch: +127
Risked: $250
To win: $317.5

yimyammer 08-08-2006 02:35 AM

Re: Jamie Gold Info
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Jamie Gold is currently a TV producer who used to be a Hollywood agent. Among his clients were Donny Wahlberg


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Oh boy I hope he manages his chips as well as he managed the career of my favorite New Kid! Wasn't he the one who fell through the trap door on stage?

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is he the guy the character in entourage is based on?Sounds awfully similar

Graevis 08-08-2006 02:38 AM

Re: Jamie Gold Info
 
Mark Wahlberg, Donny's brother, oh and Mark wasn't in the New Kids.

Ignignokt 08-08-2006 02:48 AM

Re: Jamie Gold Info
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Jamie Gold is currently a TV producer who used to be a Hollywood agent. Among his clients were Donny Wahlberg


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Oh boy I hope he manages his chips as well as he managed the career of my favorite New Kid! Wasn't he the one who fell through the trap door on stage?

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Not sure, but he DID fall through the trap door to obscurity...

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is he the guy the character in entourage is based on?

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No. The character is named Ari Gold, but he's based on a notoriously abrasive agent named Ari Emanuel.

surfinillini 08-08-2006 03:00 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
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Andrew Black found a way to donk away a huge stack last year, while Joe Hachem nursed his short stack, picked his spots, and went on to win the bracelet.

In other words, a big stack is nice, but it's anything but a guarantee.

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don't forget that Black had a nice suckout on Tim Phan with AQ on an A high flop to go runner runner full house after Tim flopped a set of 10s...

not like he really played all that well, he made some terrible bluffs and could've got snapped off if players gave him a little less respect

I would put money on that we NEVER see him at a WSOP FT again

KneeCo 08-08-2006 03:03 AM

Re: Jamie Gold Info
 
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Here are the bets I just made (and no, the lines aren't good anymore):



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what site are these on? where can I see the lines being offered?

DrunkIrish05 08-08-2006 03:06 AM

Re: Jamie Gold Info
 
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No. The character is named Ari Gold, but he's based on a notoriously abrasive agent named Ari Emanuel.

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No, he's not talking about ari, he's talking about vince. Mark Wahlberg produces the show or something and the premise is loosely based on his rise to stardom.

pocketjesuits 08-08-2006 03:30 AM

Re: Jamie Gold Info
 
Those bets were all made on pinnaclesports.com, but my betting has drastically altered the lines, and I don't think there is much value left.

Municipal Hare 08-08-2006 07:42 AM

Re: Jamie Gold Info
 
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Jamie Gold is currently a TV producer who used to be a Hollywood agent. Among his clients were Donny Wahlberg, Brandi, James Galdonfini, and Felicity Huffman.

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SHOE MONEY TONIGHT!

beenben 08-08-2006 08:16 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
Jamie Gold is a Bodog qualifier. Here's what they say on him:

LAS VEGAS - Bodog player Jamie Gold may have an edge on the competition.

The film producer recently shot a show on Johnny Chan. In return, the famed poker pro taught Gold to play cards. His lessons must have paid off as Gold has placed in the money in the last few tournaments he's played.

As Chan is also playing today, we're hoping for a teacher/student match up. Then we'll see how well Gold paid attention!

Kevmath 08-08-2006 09:09 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
Here's some more odds to win from bluesq.com, if you want to bet "each way", (finish in the top 3), the odds would be N/4 instead of N/1:

Jamie Gold 5/1
Erik Friberg 8/1
David Einhorn 10/1
Rhett Butler 11/1
Allen Cunningham 11/1
Dan Nassif 12/1
Michael Binger 12/1
William Thorsson 14/1
Jeffrey Lisandro 14/1
Kevin Aaronson 16/1
Richard Lee 16/1
Doug Kim 20/1
John Magill 20/1
Prahlad Friedman 20/1
Kevin O'Donnell 25/1
Eric Lynch 25/1
Rob Roseman 33/1
Leif Force 33/1
Sirious Jamshidi 40/1
Dustin Holmes 40/1
Lee Kort 40/1
Fred Goldberg 40/1
Richard Wyrick 66/1
Paul Wasicka 66/1
Luke Chung 66/1
Siddharth Jain 66/1
Mark Garner 66/1

THEOSU 08-08-2006 09:18 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Andrew Black found a way to donk away a huge stack last year, while Joe Hachem nursed his short stack, picked his spots, and went on to win the bracelet.

In other words, a big stack is nice, but it's anything but a guarantee.

[/ QUOTE ]

don't forget that Black had a nice suckout on Tim Phan with AQ on an A high flop to go runner runner full house after Tim flopped a set of 10s...



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don't forget the money went in preflop.

also, don't forget that hachem won with Q7 against 99, won another coinflip and had AQ hold over K9.

black, meanwhile, lost a coinflip and lost with 9T to A6 on a 965 flop.

there's still lots of time for gold to stop winning all the chips.

bottomset 08-08-2006 09:24 AM

Re: Jamie Gold Info
 
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Eric Lynch v. Prahlad Friedman
Lynch: +151
Risked: $250
To win: $377.5

Eric Lynch v. Prahlad Friedman
Lynch: +139
Risked: $250
To win: $347.5

Eric Lynch v. Prahlad Friedman
Lynch: +127
Risked: $250
To win: $317.5


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you have a lot of faith in Rizen vs one of the best NL players alive

Kevmath 08-08-2006 09:29 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
Here's the seating chart for today:


Richard Lee $3,275,000 1 1
Allen Cunningham $2,630,000 1 2
Kevin Aaronson $3,670,000 1 3
Kevin O'Donnell $2,130,000 1 4
Erik Friberg $7,735,000 1 5
Eric Lynch $1,785,000 1 6
John Magill $3,275,000 1 7
William Thorson $3,765,000 1 8
Michael Binger $5,725,000 1 9

Rob Roseman $1,685,000 2 1
Luke Chung $1,100,000 2 2
David Einhorn $6,905,000 2 3
Dan Nassif $5,430,000 2 4
Leif Force $2,265,000 2 5
Dustin Holmes $1,210,000 2 6
Sirous Jamshidi $1,190,000 2 7
Jeffrey Lisandro $3,715,000 2 8
Mark Garner $635,000 2 9

Jamie Gold $13,000,000 3 1
Douglas Kim $3,595,000 3 2
Lee Kort $1,700,000 3 3
Rhett Butler $6,400,000 3 4
Prahlad Friedman $1,850,000 3 5
Fred Goldberg $1,611,000 3 6
Siddharth Jain $675,000 3 7
Paul Wasicka $700,000 3 8
Richard Wyrick $570,000 3 9

betgo 08-08-2006 09:47 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
I guess they are starting out playing 30K/60K. The average stack has about 3.2M or 53xBB. This is deeper than a typical Internet tournament, live daily tournament, or WPT final table, but shallower than a cash game. There are a lot of short stacks with 10-20xBB, so I would expect some allins preflop with open pushes or reraises/resteals. There should be several bust outs in the next round.

Kevmath 08-08-2006 09:54 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
There's still about 1.5 hours left in the 25/50/5k level.

Austiger 08-08-2006 09:57 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
So Rizen's got more chips than 10 players left and NONE of them are at his table? RIGGED!!@!

betgo 08-08-2006 10:02 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
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There's still about 1.5 hours left in the 25/50/5k level.

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So the average stack is 64xBB and average M is 27. Still some short stacks are going to be making moves and going busto.

pocketjesuits 08-08-2006 10:06 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
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you have a lot of faith in Rizen vs one of the best NL players alive

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It has nothing to do with faith in Rizen. In fact, in the other thread I clearly said that Prahlad is a better player than Rizen.

But they are both top players with almost the same number of chips, so those odds were too good to pass up. Prahlad's edge is mainly shorthanded and deep-stacked, and the last longer bet will likely be settled long before it gets short-handed.

I think that a fair line on Rizen v. Prahlad is probably around +115, so I will take those generous lines all day.

Gildwulf 08-08-2006 10:07 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
This structure gives such a huge advantage to good cash/tourney players.

pocketjesuits 08-08-2006 10:12 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
Unfortunately the table draw doesn't help my Rizen v. Prahlad last-longer.

It does, however, help my Lisandro v. Cunningham last-longer.

Solitare 08-08-2006 10:24 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
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This structure gives such a huge advantage to good cash/tourney players.

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What structure gives an advantage to good players who are not cash or tournament players?

maryfield48 08-08-2006 10:26 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
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I think it will be hard to make a good prediction until we get to the final table to be honest. so much can happen between now and then. gold could be the next andrew black.

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So you're saying gold is the new black?

Gildwulf 08-08-2006 10:32 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This structure gives such a huge advantage to good cash/tourney players.

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What structure gives an advantage to good players who are not cash or tournament players?

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I was saying that the deep stacks and high M gives an advantage to good players (cash or tournament players). As opposed to online or other tourney structures where average M is much smaller on the bubble and luck plays a much bigger role.

Don't be a moran.

Clayton 08-08-2006 10:57 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
does anyone know if they are taking a day off tomorrow or playing the FT one day early?

eurythmech 08-08-2006 11:36 AM

Re: WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread
 
Speaking of bets...a Swedish online bookie were to post a last longer between Friberg and Thorsson.
The thing was...they had the two confused, so Friberg paid 2.7 in our way of writing odds (Pay $100, get your $100 plus $170 if your bet wins) until they took it down...


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