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JMP300z 01-22-2006 03:09 PM

Free card or Push Turn 5/10 6 max
 
BB is megadonk. Him cold calling pf obv f'd up the reason i rr'd.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

UTG ($4066)
MP ($831.93)
CO ($3555.77)
Hero ($1920)
SB ($1067)
BB ($887.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $128</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $118, CO calls $93.

Flop: ($389) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $276</font>, BB calls $276, CO folds.

Turn: ($941) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

BB checks w/ about half pot left in his stack. Hero? Checks or Pushes.

-JP

HotPants 01-22-2006 03:14 PM

Re: Free card or Push Turn 5/10 6 max
 
I think he'd need to be quite the super donk for you to think about value pushing here. Is he capable of calling the flop with no pair no draw?

AZK 01-22-2006 03:38 PM

Re: Free card or Push Turn 5/10 6 max
 
checks

Mad Genius1 01-22-2006 05:43 PM

Re: Free card or Push Turn 5/10 6 max
 
I don't see any reason to push here.

DanK 01-22-2006 06:04 PM

Re: Free card or Push Turn 5/10 6 max
 
If he called with a small over pair on the flop he is certainly not folding now, and if he had some flush draw he just hit. This guy would need to be horrendous for you to be able to value bet the turn, cuase you have no fold equity as you stated yourself

JMP300z 01-22-2006 06:09 PM

Re: Free card or Push Turn 5/10 6 max
 
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I think he'd need to be quite the super donk for you to think about value pushing here. Is he capable of calling the flop with no pair no draw?

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He had only recently sat down, but yes I believe hes capable of having AK here. Also, I think if I check behind, he pushes the river a large percentage of the time. Also, I forgot to mention that during the hand, timing reads led me to discount the chances of a flush pretty heavily.

-JP

diconoclastsx 01-22-2006 06:49 PM

Re: Free card or Push Turn 5/10 6 max
 
The most likely hand your opponent has here is 99-QQ with other pp possible. Check behind on the turn.
If checked to, I like to make a big bet on the river if you hit your straight (non-diamond) or 6, or an ace or king, and a smaller bet on a diamond that doesn't make you a straight. Check behind everything else.

hit_the_set 01-22-2006 07:18 PM

Re: Free card or Push Turn 5/10 6 max
 
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JMP300z 01-22-2006 08:32 PM

Re: Free card or Push Turn 5/10 6 max
 
Ya I agree checking is best. At the time I forgot my read to some extent thinking he would fold 6x, 77-TT. I also thought AxKd or AdKx might call. However, I was instacalled by Q6hh and sucked out. DERB.

-JP

edge 01-22-2006 09:56 PM

Re: Free card or Push Turn 5/10 6 max
 
Against a megadonk pushing is bad, especially with half-pot behind. If you were up against a decent player with 2x pot stacks, pushing is pretty cool.

Taikunin 01-22-2006 10:27 PM

Re: Free card or Push Turn 5/10 6 max
 
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Ya I agree checking is best. At the time I forgot my read to some extent thinking he would fold 6x, 77-TT. I also thought AxKd or AdKx might call. However, I was instacalled by Q6hh and sucked out. DERB.

-JP

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Q6?!? [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Glad it worked out anyway. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

r0eKY 01-23-2006 01:44 AM

Re: Free card or Push Turn 5/10 6 max
 
why reraise preflop so much?

aa-jj i could understand maybe aks

does any of the players on here make this reraise with this hand,if so why and aginst who

how do u play the flop if u reraise preflop that much with this hand?


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