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crazzy187 08-01-2006 11:46 PM

Party poker problems
 
If I am running 8 sng's on PP sometimes it pause when it is my turn and it does not give me any buttoms. Is anyone else having the same problems
crazzy187

Austiger 08-01-2006 11:47 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
Yes.

ajmargarine 08-01-2006 11:48 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
Nope. Probably an error on your end. Check your computer's user manual, re: disappearing icons.

eejit 08-02-2006 12:03 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
You need to check out my upcoming new book in this thread.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post6760787

Bluff Daddy 08-02-2006 12:08 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
there has only been about 37 threads a day about this since last week

Rick Nebiolo 08-02-2006 12:25 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
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there has only been about 37 threads a day about this since last week

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I searched back one year using +party +buttons +disappear and only got about six threads that seemed to discuss the issue. Few threads gave solid advice.

Anyway, it happened to me twice tonight for the first time while six-tabling speeds (and had flopped a set in two spots). From what I've read there appears to be no solution except to shut down Party and restart. Even that didn't help on one table and I blinded off (small stack anyway).

Any fresh info regarding the following would be appreciated;

Does shutting down PAHUD (I'm using v1.13 beta) make a difference?

Does Multi Table Helper cause this?

Any connection with Pokertracker?

~ Rick

Sykes 08-02-2006 12:41 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
there has only been about 37 threads a day about this since last week

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I searched back one year using +party +buttons +disappear and only got about six threads that seemed to discuss the issue. Few threads gave solid advice.

Anyway, it happened to me twice tonight for the first time while six-tabling speeds (and had flopped a set in two spots). From what I've read there appears to be no solution except to shut down Party and restart. Even that didn't help on one table and I blinded off (small stack anyway).

Any fresh info regarding the following would be appreciated;

Does shutting down PAHUD (I'm using v1.13 beta) make a difference?

Does Multi Table Helper cause this?

Any connection with Pokertracker?

~ Rick

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Rick,

I hear moving to stars helps.

modnareno 08-02-2006 01:35 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
I switched to playing regulars instead of speeds and its been okay (so far)

Rick Nebiolo 08-02-2006 01:56 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
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I hear moving to stars helps.

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I like Stars and play there quite a bit. But I can only five table Stars.

Right now I'm waiting for Stars to make their beta release final so Orca (programmer for Multi-table Helper) can adapt his program. I'm really addicted to MTH when I play Party, playing seven (sometimes as many as nine) tables over two screens and moving my active decision to one spot.

Not bad for an old guy like me [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

~ Rick

Rick Nebiolo 08-02-2006 01:59 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
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I switched to playing regulars instead of speeds and its been okay (so far)

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I had no problems in a later session of the regulars except for my CPU constantly maxing out and soaring to about 167 degrees Fahrenheit (according to Motherboard Monitor).

~ Rick

Sykes 08-02-2006 02:38 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
Why can you 5 table on stars but 9 table on party? That doesn't make sense.

Velocity 08-02-2006 02:46 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
party is sucky. so is neteller for needing me to do a lot of crap to get my money onto stars and full tilt.

FieryJustice 08-02-2006 03:14 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
fwiw, I tried to do 12 $6s for the tech guy at party today and the buttons still went away after doing a few things he said to fix the problem. He told me that right now they have clue what is causing the problem. He said it might have to do with there being no real names for the speed games and maybe something to do with the way the hhs are saved to the harddrive...but we turned off the "save to hd" thing and it still didnt work...
As for stars, I find it really really hard to play with the small tables on their site for some reason. I think I have a hard time seeing the chip counts for some reason. I guess im just going to have to sit in my room and play cideogames til party gets its act together.

Deuce2High 08-02-2006 03:31 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
I have experienced these problems since the monster patch.

Rick Nebiolo 08-02-2006 03:38 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
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Why can you 5 table on stars but 9 table on party? That doesn't make sense.

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I'm not sure if you use or are familar with Multi Table Helper. This was made for Party by 2+2 poster OrcaDK who uses this ongoing thread in the 2+2 software forum as a support site of sorts.

Anyway, on Party I set up my two 21" screens (one CRT, one LCD in a corner setup) so that I have four quadrants on each screen with my screen resolution set at 1280 x 960 (IMO a good resolution for most applications and general web surfing - 1600 x 1200 is too detailed).

The upper left corner of my right hand screen (the LCD) is my play area. When I start my SNG games my MTH preferences are set up so it automatically re-sizes them and places them in the other seven spots, with the rightmost areas assigned to the games I sign up for first. When I get most of my games loaded I change preferences on MTH so that the table where I have an active decision moves to my play area, then back again (to the spot it came from) when I have another active decision. If I play more than seven games, I usually stack the newest games in the upper left corner.

On Stars beta I can re-size my screens so that I have four tables on my right monitor and one big one (the newest game) on my left monitor. But without MTH I have to move my eyes around to follow the decisions; with MTH on Party the decision moves to me.

Keep in mind I'm one of the oldest farts (52 and counting down) on the forum and my eyes and quickness can't compare with you young guys. Anyway, MTH is supposed to be updated to support Stars once the beta goes solid, once it does I'm sure I can eight or nine table Stars.

~ Rick


PS You may want to keep in mind that my best friend's wife said "Ask Rick what time it is and he'll describe how to build a watch [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

The Yugoslavian 08-02-2006 03:46 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
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Nope. Probably an error on your end. Check your computer's user manual, re: disappearing icons.

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Be careful, he has friends in high places, [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img].

Yugoslav

Sykes 08-02-2006 03:47 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
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fwiw, I tried to do 12 $6s for the tech guy at party today and the buttons still went away after doing a few things he said to fix the problem. He told me that right now they have clue what is causing the problem. He said it might have to do with there being no real names for the speed games and maybe something to do with the way the hhs are saved to the harddrive...but we turned off the "save to hd" thing and it still didnt work...
As for stars, I find it really really hard to play with the small tables on their site for some reason. I think I have a hard time seeing the chip counts for some reason. I guess im just going to have to sit in my room and play cideogames til party gets its act together.

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or you could cascade the tables and keep them the same size?

I Gotta Push 08-02-2006 03:53 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
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I have experienced these problems since the monster patch.

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I Gotta Push 08-02-2006 05:08 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
Someone mentioned that turning on "Chip and Card Animation" or solves the problem. I can confirm that it, in fact, does NOT. I am still getting this problem with speed SNGs, which is all i play. I don't run PT or GT or anything in the background either, and have a top-end machine

tigerite 08-02-2006 05:09 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
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I have experienced these problems since the monster patch.

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Join the club, it's doing my head in.

player1 08-02-2006 10:54 AM

Re: Party poker problems
 
[ QUOTE ]
I searched back one year using +party +buttons +disappear and only got about six threads that seemed to discuss the issue. Few threads gave solid advice.

Anyway, it happened to me twice tonight for the first time while six-tabling speeds (and had flopped a set in two spots). From what I've read there appears to be no solution except to shut down Party and restart. Even that didn't help on one table and I blinded off (small stack anyway).

Any fresh info regarding the following would be appreciated;

Does shutting down PAHUD (I'm using v1.13 beta) make a difference?

Does Multi Table Helper cause this?

Any connection with Pokertracker?

~ Rick

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i dont use MTH.

i had to stop using PAHUD (the "n" version) since it would take forever to display the players stats (up to five minutes per player). also, my hard drive was running like crazy. maybe i've set something wrong...

so i decided not to open up PT. i now 4 table the speeds instead of 6. and ever since, the disappearing buttons are very rare. it might have to do with reducing to 4 tables, i really dont know. also, 4 tables is less stressful when having to restart party if disconnected or without the buttons. although, i've only had to restart once (i think) since i went to 4 tables...

crazzy187 08-02-2006 12:48 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
What is up yugoslav
who has friends in high places?

staring_elf 08-02-2006 12:49 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
couple of things:
it has nothing to do with MTH - i've tried it with and without and get the problem both times
same goes for : pahud, pt, sng opener, joy to key, closing as much as i can and having only absolutley necessary apps running (i have a very high spec machine btw), doing the whole disk cleanup bullcrap, temporary internet files, defragmenter, etc etc.

it is solely a problem with party's software.

i suggest everybody keeps emailing them and calling them til they get their heads out of their asses and fix it. or move to stars.

Rick Nebiolo 08-02-2006 01:59 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
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i had to stop using PAHUD (the "n" version) since it would take forever to display the players stats (up to five minutes per player). also, my hard drive was running like crazy. maybe i've set something wrong...

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I'm also using the "n" version beta for PAHUD. I haven't been able to build a cache (although never had one before) and it does seem less stable. I assume I can roll back to an earlier version, since the last few downloads are stored on my hard drive.

~ Rick

FlyWf 08-02-2006 02:31 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
I think it's pretty BS that party asked you to essentially give away $70 for their amusement.

DevinLake 08-02-2006 02:38 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
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As for stars, I find it really really hard to play with the small tables on their site for some reason. I think I have a hard time seeing the chip counts for some reason.

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This was my observation of Stars as well. Although I only played five sngs, but that was enough for me to wipe out all but $30 of my deposit.

I also thought the suits and numbers on the cards were too small. I have a 17" monitor and have to resize the windows. Party it is easier to see the cards and stacks.

There was also couple other things I didn't like. One, you can't see when the blinds are increasing at the table. You have to go to another screen. Second, you can't choose your seat. I like to sit at whatever corner of the table that corresponds to what corner of my monitor the game is in.

The Yugoslavian 08-02-2006 05:26 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
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What is up yugoslav
who has friends in high places?

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Lol YOU DO! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Well okay it was supposed to be a bit humorous but whatever.

Are you still doin' your quest for 1k STTs at each level? Or have you settled in at a level by now?

Also, are you in vegas sweating darrell or not this year?

Looks like he has an awesome shot to do some damange!

Yugoslav

Dead$$$Walking 08-02-2006 05:27 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
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so i decided not to open up PT. i now 4 table the speeds instead of 6. and ever since, the disappearing buttons are very rare. it might have to do with reducing to 4 tables, i really dont know. also, 4 tables is less stressful when having to restart party if disconnected or without the buttons. although, i've only had to restart once (i think) since i went to 4 tables...

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I dont have the problem 4 tabling either, im sure it is a 6+ table problem. However even when 4 tabling other programs like PAHUD, MTH, etc. still dont work. Pokertracker will work if you manually import the HH's PP emails you, but the auto import doesnt work very well.

Vetstadium 08-02-2006 05:32 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
Welcome to the new party hits us all but of course Party has no knowledge of this.

burgi 08-02-2006 05:42 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
I usually have no problems 4 tabling, but when 6 tabling, it happens from time to time and I'm very, very pissed about it!
Already cost me several big pots their retarted, [censored] up software!!!

Newt_Buggs 08-02-2006 05:51 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
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As for stars, I find it really really hard to play with the small tables on their site for some reason. I think I have a hard time seeing the chip counts for some reason. I guess im just going to have to sit in my room and play cideogames til party gets its act together.

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Small tables? The tables are adjustable and the default size is the same as the party default I believe. Also I really had trouble adjusting to stars at first but after a black and grey table mod, going through every option available in their software and adjusting it to my preference, and just practicing a little bit on lower stakes I have little problem with stars. Seriously though go through every option in their software and mess with it, you can customize a lot of things. On second thought, just keep on playing video games and stay off my tables [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

AMT 08-02-2006 05:52 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
As for stars, I find it really really hard to play with the small tables on their site for some reason. I think I have a hard time seeing the chip counts for some reason. I guess im just going to have to sit in my room and play cideogames til party gets its act together.

[/ QUOTE ]
Small tables? The tables are adjustable and the default size is the same as the party default I believe. Also I really had trouble adjusting to stars at first but after a black and grey table mod, going through every option available in their software and adjusting it to my preference, and just practicing a little bit on lower stakes I have little problem with stars. Seriously though go through every option in their software and mess with it, you can customize a lot of things. On second thought, just keep on playing video games and stay off my tables [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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newt i feel like you live for the bashing partypoker threads [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

burgi 08-02-2006 06:42 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
Ok, I send them an email telling them that I'm pissed off and they better do something about it. Got a great response:

Dear Player,

Thank you for contacting us.

We are sorry you are not getting options on table and experiencing connectivity
issues and understand how frustrating this can be.

Your Internet Service Provider (ISP) connects you to the tables on our Game
Servers. Every time you connect to the main lobby, your link uses a network of
servers on the Internet. These network connections are decided by your ISP.

When you connect to the tables, each table is again connected to our Game
Servers through individual sets of network connections on the Internet. Each of
these network connections uses multiple intermediate servers and each of these
servers handles not only your connection, but also various other connections
routed through them from the Internet. This puts a lot of strain on the
intermediate servers. Some of the servers are capable of handling heavy loads
and are very stable, but some of them are not. A weak server will randomly
select a connection passing through it and disconnect the subscriber. This is
why players experience sudden disconnections from tables even though they are
still able to browse through the Internet or even play other tables.

We fully understand that it is not a problem from your end. However, as
explained above, if there is a weak server on the network connection that your
ISP has chosen to connect to our Game Servers, it is quite possible that you
might get disconnected from a table.

In order to resolve your issue, we recommend that in future you please shut down
and restart your computer before logging back in. You will then be taken
directly to your tournament table.

Should you require any further assistance, please contact our 24/7 Customer Care
Department.

Junaid
PartyPoker Customer Care



Do they think I have all day to act on my tables and I can just shut down my computer for several minutes and then miss all tables, or what.

billxo1b 08-02-2006 06:48 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
[ QUOTE ]

When you connect to the tables, each table is again connected to our Game
Servers through individual sets of network connections on the Internet. Each of
these network connections uses multiple intermediate servers and each of these
servers handles not only your connection, but also various other connections
routed through them from the Internet. This puts a lot of strain on the
intermediate servers. Some of the servers are capable of handling heavy loads
and are very stable, but some of them are not. A weak server will randomly
select a connection passing through it and disconnect the subscriber. This is
why players experience sudden disconnections from tables even though they are
still able to browse through the Internet or even play other tables.


[/ QUOTE ]

Learn something new everyday [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img][img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img][img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

player1 08-02-2006 07:53 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i had to stop using PAHUD (the "n" version) since it would take forever to display the players stats (up to five minutes per player). also, my hard drive was running like crazy. maybe i've set something wrong...

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm also using the "n" version beta for PAHUD. I haven't been able to build a cache (although never had one before) and it does seem less stable. I assume I can roll back to an earlier version, since the last few downloads are stored on my hard drive.

~ Rick

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for those who haven't done so with beta version "n"...

go to preferences -> databases to enable caching. be sure to start this when your computer is not in use.

i just finished the caching procedure. (over 2hrs). according to josh, this was normal for large PT databases. actually, if you're gonna do it, he mentioned defrag and vacuum before starting. of course, still need to import via mail. i'm glad the (existing) player stats and showdown info are back. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] it all seems to work fine except a few more flickers of the stats. HD import is not working but thats a party issue.

also, i had to agree with dead$$$walking. i've had next to no problems 4 tabling speeds (from 6). fwiw though, i always restart party after each set.

Newt_Buggs 08-02-2006 07:56 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
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newt i feel like you live for the bashing partypoker threads [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Well I am rather upset that party's incompetence has cost both me and them several thousands of dollars in EV while they've been down. I had a chance to play a lot this past week and a half for various reasons. I'm also leaving for vegas and possibly Arizona soon so I was looking forward to getting in a lot of games in beforehand.

mbishop 08-02-2006 07:58 PM

Re: Party poker problems
 
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Seriously though go through every option in their software and mess with it, you can customize a lot of things.

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Yeah. View->Themes->Hyper-Simple Theme. Basically a black table mod w/ "Waffle" cards, built in.


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