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.5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
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Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks. Flop: (5.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls. Turn: (7.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks. River: (7.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 folds, Hero ?? |
Re: .5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
You can fold if you like folding the best hand to a busted draw. Expect to see that more than 12.9% of the time
EDIT, why didn't hero raise this preflop like a true hero would have? |
Re: .5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
ack
Raise preflop. Then cap the flop, you have top pair. Then bet the turn and fold to a c/r, you have top pair. Yes you call the river, you have top pair. |
Re: .5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
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Then bet the turn and fold to a c/r, you have top pair. [/ QUOTE ] He has an OESD on the turn. I don't think the call of the flop 3bet is terrible but vb the turn, and as played river is an easy call. |
Re: .5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
Grunch: Raise pre-flop. Cap flop. Bet turn. Call river.
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Re: .5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
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He has an OESD on the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Haha whoops |
Re: .5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
wow, bet that turn always. you have a good hand.
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Re: .5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
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Raise pre-flop. Cap flop. Bet turn. Call river. [/ QUOTE ] |
Re: .5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
raise preflop. dont hate just calling the 3 bet as BB is pretty confident. because we didnt cap i think hero must bet the turn as BB really shouldnt be going for CR here unless he is a known pussy who is easily scared despite holding big hands (like a set of 8s here).
but as played I call the river. dont have to win every time to make this sort of call worthwhile.... |
Re: .5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
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[ QUOTE ] Raise pre-flop. Cap flop. Bet turn. Call river. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] |
Re: .5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Raise pre-flop. Cap flop. Bet turn. Call river. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] |
Re: .5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
Preflop: Easy Raise
Flop: Do you guys always cap a scary flop like this facing a strong 3-bet from an unknown in the BB, with only top pair, second highest kicker...? I like calling the flop 3-bet then value betting the turn once he checks to us, but I think facing a 3-bet from the BB on this flop usually means we are behind. We are privvy to some turn information and maybe that's why you guys are saying cap the flop, because it looks like a busted draw on the turn. |
Re: .5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
the bet on the flop screams to me Q8 or J8. I mean does he look like the kind of player that would 3 bet a flush draw? Maybe the check on the turn is a way to trap someone into another raise. But I have a feeling that he is now scared of the straight and/or waiting for the club. I would probably bet and if raised then throw away.
But I am confused by the logic of 3-bet on the flop. All he has is top pair which in micro limit isn't really dominate (believe me I know). And that flop has so many flush or straight possibilities. Are you 3 betting to think he would fold? Are you 3 betting and crossing your fingers that the turn and river doesn't help anyone. I guess I am too cowardly because I don't understand the play. |
Re: .5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
The OP isn't the one who is 3-betting, he is the raiser on the flop and must debate a flop cap or calling the BB's 3-bet.
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Re: .5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
Raise pre-flop. Calling here = bad.
I like flop raise. BB 3-bet is curious, but who knows what he could have. I like the advice of capping. By capping the flop, you're pretty much obligated to bet the turn. Careful though with the four to a straight hitting the board. I wouldn't get nuts and cap the turn or anything. River, you need to showdown. |
Re: .5 / 1 Hand, can I call this?
*Grunch*
First thing's first, where's your PFR? I'd raise it up to take control of the hand. 99% of the time nobody's gonna fold, but one should take control and be aggressive. Don't wait until later rounds. With no reads, I'm sensing BB has a Q or J, two pair, 88 is possible as playas have been known to check low-medium pp with multiple opponents. The thing is, you don't know where you're at due to the PFR omission. Betting is not just for when you have the best hand. It's also to acquire info on your opponents. Since he checked, bet the turn. He might think you have the st8 and check on the river for a free showdown. I'd feel better with a free showdown than a free turn. But with no bet on the turn, you're not going to know where you're at. Now we're at a decision on the river with a meaningless duece. I don't see folding top pair. Call. |
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